Match Thread Motherwell 0 - 1 Aberdeen

[Voffov]

9 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

That’s not right..

Collum clearly gave a hand ball signal when disallowing the goal.

Which was wrong. 

[fine-n-dandy]

23 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

He's 24 in a couple of weeks time. 

 

23 hours ago, Millertime said:

He's 24 bruv

He's in no shape or form good enough for what I want our club to achieve

Still relatively young & ‘inexperienced’ in terms of games played for a defender because defenders & keepers are always judged far more harshly than other players because ANY mistakes are more often than not ‘multiplied’ because they often lead to goals. 
 

We all want ‘better’ for our team but MacKenzie is probably a better LB than Considine was at his age & we all know how much shite Considine took. Even though that wasn’t actually Considine’s position.

 

MacKenzie has the misfortune of playing (especially this season) with an atrocious defence/keeper & a shambolic managerial setup his whole time in team.

 

He’s going to make mistakes defensively. These would be less significant if he had better ‘mentors’ but he is an asset going forward often & with better team around him his ‘inexperience/flaws’ would be less an issue & better learned from.

 

 

[Millertime]

11 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

 

Still relatively young & ‘inexperienced’ in terms of games played for a defender because defenders & keepers are always judged far more harshly than other players because ANY mistakes are more often than not ‘multiplied’ because they often lead to goals. 
 

We all want ‘better’ for our team but MacKenzie is probably a better LB than Considine was at his age & we all know how much shite Considine took. Even though that wasn’t actually Considine’s position.

 

MacKenzie has the misfortune of playing (especially this season) with an atrocious defence/keeper & a shambolic managerial setup his whole time in team.

 

He’s going to make mistakes defensively. These would be less significant if he had better ‘mentors’ but he is an asset going forward often & with better team around him his ‘inexperience/flaws’ would be less an issue & better learned from.

 

 

He's not in any shape or form, young 

[Tommy]

2 minutes ago, Millertime said:

He's not in any shape or form, young 

Trust me. He is.

[Millertime]

5 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Trust me. He is.

Haha, you know what I mean though!

[Tommy]

4 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Haha, you know what I mean though!

No. I just said to myself. ‘Frankie’s talking shite’ 😉

[HaarDon]

8 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Have you been belching again KSL? 😄

Is it a belch, a burp or a rift?

[perthshirered]

1 hour ago, fine-n-dandy said:

 

Still relatively young & ‘inexperienced’ in terms of games played for a defender because defenders & keepers are always judged far more harshly than other players because ANY mistakes are more often than not ‘multiplied’ because they often lead to goals. 
 

We all want ‘better’ for our team but MacKenzie is probably a better LB than Considine was at his age & we all know how much shite Considine took. Even though that wasn’t actually Considine’s position.

 

MacKenzie has the misfortune of playing (especially this season) with an atrocious defence/keeper & a shambolic managerial setup his whole time in team.

 

He’s going to make mistakes defensively. These would be less significant if he had better ‘mentors’ but he is an asset going forward often & with better team around him his ‘inexperience/flaws’ would be less an issue & better learned from.

 

 

Why are you using Considine as a yardstick? He was rotten for pretty much his entire career, barring a wee competent patch towards the end of his stint. He was almost single-handedly responsible for at least 4 or 5 of Celtics titles during their 9 in a row stint. 

[ahead on alphabet]

46 minutes ago, perthshirered said:

Why are you using Considine as a yardstick? He was rotten for pretty much his entire career, barring a wee competent patch towards the end of his stint. He was almost single-handedly responsible for at least 4 or 5 of Celtics titles during their 9 in a row stint. 

😂

Edit to add - 😂😂

[Big Hat Logan]

9 hours ago, redone said:

Maybe so…..but he was a more effective DEFENDER than plenty we’ve suffered over the years , including most, if not all of the current crop

You’re at it. Byrne was fucking terrible. Calderwood interspersed a team of good players with some utter shite and Byrne was definitely utter shite 

[Big Hat Logan]

51 minutes ago, perthshirered said:

Why are you using Considine as a yardstick? He was rotten for pretty much his entire career, barring a wee competent patch towards the end of his stint. He was almost single-handedly responsible for at least 4 or 5 of Celtics titles during their 9 in a row stint. 

That’s a lot of utter shite as well

[G31DON]

13 hours ago, a don in oz said:

Well. That is fucking mental.

It's well clear how the game is in such big trouble when the folks in charge are coming up with such insane rules.

Utterly fucking insane. So an accidental handball by the attacking team if a goal comes after it is fine. Accidental handball by the defending team is a penalty. 

Whichever clueless fuckers came up with those belters needs to be burned at the stake.

Another part of the problem with hand ball is they have changed the law and definition seemingly every year for the last 4 years or so.

[redone]

4 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said:

You’re at it. Byrne was fucking terrible. Calderwood interspersed a team of good players with some utter shite and Byrne was definitely utter shite 

I’d take Byrne ahead of Gartenmann and Jensen , for instance every day of the week 

[thurso]

13 minutes ago, redone said:

I’d take Byrne ahead of Gartenmann and Jensen , for instance every day of the week 

Wow Byrne was without doubt one of the worst defenders to ever pull on an Aberdeen top this century. Only surpassed by a chosen few like Dave “fucking” bus and Alan “league cup winning living legend” tait 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

18 hours ago, redone said:

Maybe so…..but he was a more effective DEFENDER than plenty we’ve suffered over the years , including most, if not all of the current crop

He was solid enough when his positioning, awareness, and timing were all working in-sync.

Those occasions were few and far between and unfortunately to his detriment when factoring in his "no holds barred" style of defending. He had a couple of dislocated shoulders and hamstring injuries during his time at AFC and was signed after an injury-ravaged spell at Dunfermline before coming to AFC.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

10 hours ago, HaarDon said:

Is it a belch, a burp or a rift?

Depends on what part of the UK you are from I suppose?

The act of releasing trapped wind via a facial orifice can be classed as a mouth fart as well. 

[King Street Loon]

21 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Have you been belching again KSL? 😄

Was a fair rift.

[fine-n-dandy]

12 hours ago, perthshirered said:

Why are you using Considine as a yardstick? He was rotten for pretty much his entire career, barring a wee competent patch towards the end of his stint. He was almost single-handedly responsible for at least 4 or 5 of Celtics titles during their 9 in a row stint. 

I was using him as an example of a player in shite teams being slaughtered way more than deserved when still young (for a defender) 

MacKenzie isn’t even as bad as Considine was but is getting even more stick but is playing in an even worse team with worse managers.

i also used him because they are the only two things resembling LB’s we’ve had playing for us in recent times even though consi was actually a CH but played LB more so 🤷 who else can we compare a LB too? Certainly not McGarry 

[NEM]

Ritchie Byrne was fucking hopeless (goal at Tannadice aside) but he'd still be an upgrade on Gartenmann

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

2 hours ago, King Street Loon said:

Was a fair rift.

😄😄...as long and wide as a valley in Africa.