Contract Extensions

[GeorgeStreetReds]

I understand this topic will be labelled pant pishing but... who was the last player we managed to sign up on a contract extension who was a starter for us?

With us apparently in talks with McGrath and MacKenzie (possibly Devlin too) over new deals, no announcements yet, it seems that we are struggling to get players who are starting for us and doing well to commit to staying with us. Possibly understandable with how crap we've been since 2020.

Other than Polvara, who was is a squad player for us, I can't recall any players extending their deals with us in recent times.

I understand we want to sign players and turn them over for profit, but this can't apply to the whole team, we need some consistency as players come and go.

What do we need to do to get players like McGrath to sign on with us for longer?

European football every season, having a good manager or is it as simple as paying more money?

 

[Tord31]

3 minutes ago, GeorgeStreetReds said:

I understand this topic will be labelled pant pishing but... who was the last player we managed to sign up on a contract extension who was a starter for us?

With us apparently in talks with McGrath and MacKenzie (possibly Devlin too) over new deals, no announcements yet, it seems that we are struggling to get players who are starting for us and doing well to commit to staying with us. Possibly understandable with how crap we've been since 2020.

Other than Polvara, who was is a squad player for us, I can't recall any players extending their deals with us in recent times.

I understand we want to sign players and turn them over for profit, but this can't apply to the whole team, we need some consistency as players come and go.

What do we need to do to get players like McGrath to sign on with us for longer?

European football every season, having a good manager or is it as simple as paying more money?

 

Unless you are going to count Clarkson or MacDonald then I dont think there is anyone at the club who signed a contract extension when they were a first pick.

[Tord31]

Topic should be merged with the Out of Contract topic.

[GeorgeStreetReds]

3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Unless you are going to count Clarkson or MacDonald then I dont think there is anyone at the club who signed a contract extension when they were a first pick.

Will give you Angus MacDonald, although coming to the end of his career and Clarkson was only on loan with us.

[Sonoftherock]

36 minutes ago, GeorgeStreetReds said:

I understand this topic will be labelled pant pishing but... who was the last player we managed to sign up on a contract extension who was a starter for us?

With us apparently in talks with McGrath and MacKenzie (possibly Devlin too) over new deals, no announcements yet, it seems that we are struggling to get players who are starting for us and doing well to commit to staying with us. Possibly understandable with how crap we've been since 2020.

Other than Polvara, who was is a squad player for us, I can't recall any players extending their deals with us in recent times.

I understand we want to sign players and turn them over for profit, but this can't apply to the whole team, we need some consistency as players come and go.

What do we need to do to get players like McGrath to sign on with us for longer?

European football every season, having a good manager or is it as simple as paying more money?

 

Probably depends on the individual. 

Players are now aware that there are eyes on AFC these days, for a number of reasons.  Do well here and you'll have options... for much more money and at a higher standard of football.  That's the way of it unfortunately.

Just my opinions, but Devlin will sign on... I think he probably knows he's at his ceiling and his age it ain't going to get better for him.  There is next to zero chance McGrath will stay on.   At 27 y/o, he'll get a big contract in the English Championship or League One - will probably be his last chance to score a big pay day.  That one will drag on until the end of the season, with all sort of excuses emerging...  MacKenzie is the interesting one for me... last season I thought he'd be lock to remain at Aberdeen for his full career.  However, he's found a new level this season - I do wonder if he fancies a crack at England?

[aberdeen1970]

There's not been many over the last few years that we'd have wanted to extend.   Miovski and maybe Ramadani and Barron. That's about it. 

Will be interesting if we get a bit of stability whether any of the current group decide to stay longer. 

[Andy_123]

14 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

There's not been many over the last few years that we'd have wanted to extend.   Miovski and maybe Ramadani and Barron. That's about it. 

Will be interesting if we get a bit of stability whether any of the current group decide to stay longer. 

Was going to say the exact same.

Can probably count on one hand the amount of players in the last 3-4 years you'd actually want to have kept.

[Tord31]

28 minutes ago, Sonoftherock said:

Probably depends on the individual. 

Players are now aware that there are eyes on AFC these days, for a number of reasons.  Do well here and you'll have options... for much more money and at a higher standard of football.  That's the way of it unfortunately.

Just my opinions, but Devlin will sign on... I think he probably knows he's at his ceiling and his age it ain't going to get better for him.  There is next to zero chance McGrath will stay on.   At 27 y/o, he'll get a big contract in the English Championship or League One - will probably be his last chance to score a big pay day.  That one will drag on until the end of the season, with all sort of excuses emerging...  MacKenzie is the interesting one for me... last season I thought he'd be lock to remain at Aberdeen for his full career.  However, he's found a new level this season - I do wonder if he fancies a crack at England?

I think youve probably nailed it all there but I hope we can find a way to keep this squad together if we continue to improve under Thelin.

[GeorgeStreetReds]

1 hour ago, Sonoftherock said:

Probably depends on the individual. 

Players are now aware that there are eyes on AFC these days, for a number of reasons.  Do well here and you'll have options... for much more money and at a higher standard of football.  That's the way of it unfortunately.

Just my opinions, but Devlin will sign on... I think he probably knows he's at his ceiling and his age it ain't going to get better for him.  There is next to zero chance McGrath will stay on.   At 27 y/o, he'll get a big contract in the English Championship or League One - will probably be his last chance to score a big pay day.  That one will drag on until the end of the season, with all sort of excuses emerging...  MacKenzie is the interesting one for me... last season I thought he'd be lock to remain at Aberdeen for his full career.  However, he's found a new level this season - I do wonder if he fancies a crack at England?

McGrath failed pretty badly at Wigan and failed to get into their team in League 1, that will put off English clubs. You'd think we'd be in a position now where we can offer players like him a very good wage, maybe up to £8k per week.

Interested to see what MacKenzie does too.

[RDS]

Joe Lewis and Lewis Ferguson signed extensions. Haven't checked which was later one

[DD1903]

21 hours ago, GeorgeStreetReds said:

I understand this topic will be labelled pant pishing but... who was the last player we managed to sign up on a contract extension who was a starter for us?

With us apparently in talks with McGrath and MacKenzie (possibly Devlin too) over new deals, no announcements yet, it seems that we are struggling to get players who are starting for us and doing well to commit to staying with us. Possibly understandable with how crap we've been since 2020.

Other than Polvara, who was is a squad player for us, I can't recall any players extending their deals with us in recent times.

I understand we want to sign players and turn them over for profit, but this can't apply to the whole team, we need some consistency as players come and go.

What do we need to do to get players like McGrath to sign on with us for longer?

European football every season, having a good manager or is it as simple as paying more money?

 

So bad that 2 of the players you mention were happy to sign for us...🙃😆

[Tord31]

Its probably a sign of the club realising we have trouble re-signing our best players with the new move towards have pre agreed options for the club.

Think we have options on Mitov, Rubezic, Molloy, Palaversa and Ambrose.

Maybe we'll trigger the Rubezic option soon given he'll have 18 months on his deal at the turn of the year.

[aberdeen1970]

It's going to be a fact of life for us. 

You can't sell the club to foreign players on the basis that we are a stepping stone to richer leagues then expect them to stay here long term and sign further contracts. 

They've no intention of staying here for more than a couple of years in the first place.  And we want the cash for them in any case. It is what it is. 

 

 

 

[Tord31]

7 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

It's going to be a fact of life for us. 

You can't sell the club to foreign players on the basis that we are a stepping stone to richer leagues then expect them to stay here long term and sign further contracts. 

They've no intention of staying here for more than a couple of years in the first place.  And we want the cash for them in any case. It is what it is. 

 

 

 

Certainly for the likes of Rubezic.

McGrath, I still hope, could be slightly different given he's already been down south and not cut it.

[aberdeen1970]

1 minute ago, Tord31 said:

Certainly for the likes of Rubezic.

McGrath, I still hope, could be slightly different given he's already been down south and not cut it.

English clubs have short memories. 

I think there will be interest in him. 

But as you say it depends on whether he wants to have another crack at it or wants to stay here where he is a key player and is performing well. 

[Tord31]

4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

English clubs have short memories. 

I think there will be interest in him. 

But as you say it depends on whether he wants to have another crack at it or wants to stay here where he is a key player and is performing well. 

Yes, hopefully we can at least put a package together that gives him and his agent something to think about.

[Zeus]

Worried about the potential interest in Mackenzie tbh 

[Tord31]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Worried about the potential interest in Mackenzie tbh 

Dont think we'll have long to wait to find out.

If it gets to the Christmas holidays still unresolved then its looking bad. Same boat as McGrath.

 

Only Devlin is slightly different and we'd be more relaxed going in to the last 5-6 months of his contract

[GeorgeStreetReds]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

English clubs have short memories. 

I think there will be interest in him. 

But as you say it depends on whether he wants to have another crack at it or wants to stay here where he is a key player and is performing well. 

Hopefully the guarantee of European group stage football (if that happens) is enough to attract players to stay and we'll also be able to offer them more money.

[fine-n-dandy]

5 hours ago, GeorgeStreetReds said:

Hopefully the guarantee of European group stage football (if that happens) is enough to attract players to stay and we'll also be able to offer them more money.

Is there a guarantee of group stage football now? Only if we win league or Scottish cup. Maybe for second place 

[Tord31]

36 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Is there a guarantee of group stage football now? Only if we win league or Scottish cup. Maybe for second place 

3rd place would guarantee groups if one of the top2 were to win the cup.

Of course we'll be aiming for first (guaranteed groups) or second (nae guaranteed groups).

 

[Russell]

McCrorie signed an extension with the understanding he'd be sold. 

[wanderingscotty]

Good problem to have, unless you'd rather have a player nobody wants.
All 3, Devlin, Mcgrath and MacKenzie cost us nothing, and I'm perfectly happy them coming in and doing a proper shift then moving on up the chain. 

[dj_bollocks]

2 hours ago, wanderingscotty said:

Good problem to have, unless you'd rather have a player nobody wants.
All 3, Devlin, Mcgrath and MacKenzie cost us nothing, and I'm perfectly happy them coming in and doing a proper shift then moving on up the chain. 

If they move up the chain they leave with us being suitably compensated. Those days that players leave for nothing to further their careers SHOULD be long gone by now...

[Daisy1903]

12 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

English clubs have short memories. 

I think there will be interest in him. 

But as you say it depends on whether he wants to have another crack at it or wants to stay here where he is a key player and is performing well. 

He prob won't be thinking he might not cut it. He'll prob be thinking he's older and better now and would be able to give it a better go this time.

But here's the big thing. At 28 years old I very much doubt he'll be thinking 2 moves ahead. He'll know it's unlikely he'll move to a really big club after his next one. So this is his last chance at a big pay day. 

He'll be looking at getting a 3 year deal on £10-£15k a week. Even if he does well, at his age he'll never get bigger or better than that. And if he fails, he's prob not that bothered. He's banked well over a million and knows he can still get some decent wages in the SPL once he's the wrong side on 30.

[aberdeen1970]

2 minutes ago, Daisy1903 said:

He prob won't be thinking he might not cut it. He'll prob be thinking he's older and better now and would be able to give it a better go this time.

 

And so he should. He's definitely matured as a player. 

[Daisy1903]

11 hours ago, Zeus said:

Worried about the potential interest in Mackenzie tbh 

If I was Mackenzie I'd prob hold off a bit too. He must see himself as getting better, more minutes and becoming more important to the team. 

He'll have wanted to get the transfer window out the way where he'll have noticed we didn't try to get an upgrade on him. Doesn't even look like we tried to get an upgrade on McGarry. So he knows he's an important 1st team player now and will want wages similar to other important players.

Given until recently he's been in and out the team I can't imagine he's on much.

Can see him staying but on a much improved contract.

[Tord31]

Mackenzie has actually already had a number of new contracts at the club so he could be on more than we'd realise.

[Roberto]

Mackenzie won't do better than us.

He's got better but he's not as good as some say.

Almost world class.

He will sign a new deal.

[King Street Loon]

8 hours ago, Roberto said:

Mackenzie won't do better than us.

He's got better but he's not as good as some say.

Almost world class.

He will sign a new deal.

Aye, as good as it'll get for Jacko.

As long as we want him, he'll remain. He's a lifer.