MG_Don Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 For anybody who hasn't seen it Schwarzer went to kick the ball out of his hands and Solskjaer flicked away from him (only making contact with the ball not the keeper) and rolled it into the empty net. The goal didn't count and he was booked for unsporting behaviour. What do you think should that be allowed on the basis that it's clever or is it right ot book him as the keeper should have the right to actually kick it after throwing it up? Link to comment
JimmyCalderwood Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I seem to remember Henry doing the same thing 3 seasons ago now (i think) but i can't remember if his was given or not, personally i think it should be gieven as the ball is not in the keeper controle but according to the Fifa rule book it should not be given. Link to comment
JimmyJimmy Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 If a player scored like that against Aberdeen then I'd quite rightly want to smash his face in, so yes, it should have been disallowed. Its something I could see Langfield giving away. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I can mind years ago someone (possibly Neil Webb), heading the ball out of the keepers hands as he was running back into play and scored form the result. I'm sure that was given, but the rules have probably changed since then (or my meory is sh*t, and it wasn't given). Link to comment
moat pervert Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 George Best famously did something similar against Gordon Banks in 1971. From the BBC: Still one of the highlights of Best's career, even though it ultimately counted for nothing. Gordon Banks had enhanced his reputation as the best keeper in the world the previous summer with what is widely regarded as the greatest ever save - his save from Pele's header in the 1970 World Cup. But Best almost made him look a stooge with a piece of lightning thinking. Best was idling like a street-corner urchin as Banks prepared to punt the ball upfield. The England keeper tossed the ball into the air and in the instant he draw his leg back, Best toe-poked the ball upwards. As a bemused Banks looked around for the ball, Best nodded it into the empty net, only for the referee to disallow the goal for dangerous play. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 George Best famously did something similar against Gordon Banks in 1971. From the BBC: Still one of the highlights of Best's career, even though it ultimately counted for nothing. Gordon Banks had enhanced his reputation as the best keeper in the world the previous summer with what is widely regarded as the greatest ever save - his save from Pele's header in the 1970 World Cup. But Best almost made him look a stooge with a piece of lightning thinking. Best was idling like a street-corner urchin as Banks prepared to punt the ball upfield. The England keeper tossed the ball into the air and in the instant he draw his leg back, Best toe-poked the ball upwards. As a bemused Banks looked around for the ball, Best nodded it into the empty net, only for the referee to disallow the goal for dangerous play.At 02:50 on this clip. Link to comment
uni_don Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I was watching MoTD last night and at first I was adamant that it should have been a goal, even though it was highly unsporting. However, Alan Shearer went and looked up the rules and clarified that it was an illegal move. Holding the ball and going to kick it are regarded as one action or something, so technically nicking it whilst the keeper was going to kick it is the same as kicking it out of the keepers hands. Case closed. Link to comment
Pholasin Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Another stupid rule which protects goal keepers. If someone has the skill to take the ball off the keeper (see also Henry a few seasons ago) and the audacity to try it, then it should stand as a goal. Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Shouldn't be allowed as it's unsporting, end of. However, the one where the ball was headed out of Andy Dibble's hand a while ago in England was different as apparently if the keeper had the ball in one hand then it WAS allowed although the rules may have been changed to cover this in with the likes of the Solskjaer incident yesterday. Link to comment
redtildead88 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Don't understand why there's a debate, it's against the rules, end of story. Link to comment
JimmyCalderwood Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Shouldn't be allowed as it's unsporting, end of. However, the one where the ball was headed out of Andy Dibble's hand a while ago in England was different as apparently if the keeper had the ball in one hand then it WAS allowed although the rules may have been changed to cover this in with the likes of the Solskjaer incident yesterday.If i was a keeper i'd rather have it done the way Solskjaer done it as the ball is not in the keeper controle and it should be allowed, campare to it being headed or kicked out of a keepers hand it's not unsporting. On another note does anyone think keepers are over pretected? It's just got really silly since Cechs injury and every keeper is over pretected by the ref it's shocking. Link to comment
robbo Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 even though its against the rules, what a f*cking touch from ole!!!!! what a sweet little flick to not only pinch the ball, but put the weight and spin on it to set him up for the next shot! Link to comment
K-9 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Maybe it should be allowed but at present the rules say it isn't so unless it is changed will always be disallowed when it happens Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Anybody watch MOTD2, Stelios with his balloon, wonder if Doyle had missed that he would have been allowed to retake it because of unsporting behaviour. Funny though! Link to comment
uni_don Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Anybody watch MOTD2, Stelios with his balloon, wonder if Doyle had missed that he would have been allowed to retake it because of unsporting behaviour. Funny though!I was going to mention that on here yesterday but decided to wait and see if MoTD 2 would show it first. Someone rang in 606 on Sat night to talk about it. Highly unsporting - I wonder if it was done with Allardyce's approval? Link to comment
The Proclaimer Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Shouldn't be allowed as it's unsporting, end of. I disagree that it's unsporting. It's against the rules as it's seen as one move, but what's the difference if the keeper rolls the ball out on the deck to kick it clear, and the player nips in from behind him and scores (Dion Dublin did this a few season's back)? Link to comment
K-9 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I disagree that it's unsporting. It's against the rules as it's seen as one move, but what's the difference if the keeper rolls the ball out on the deck to kick it clear, and the player nips in from behind him and scores (Dion Dublin did this a few season's back)?Difference is the Dublin one is not against the rules. As said above the rule is maybe wrong but it is a rule so therefore it is illegal. Link to comment
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