vanderark14 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...am+plan+quashed surely they are taking the piss. Link to comment
uni_don Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Why can't the Premier League deduct 2 points from West Ham and be done with the whole affair? Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Why can't the Premier League deduct 2 points from West Ham and be done with the whole affair? because they have already issued them with a punishment!! although losing out by 1 goal to go down must feel horrible sheffield united should shut the f*ck up and get on with it. Link to comment
uni_don Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 because they have already issued them with a punishment!! although losing out by 1 goal to go down must feel horrible sheffield united should shut the f*ck up and get on with it.Point was that Sheff Utd have been hollering for a points deduction. Deduct 2, West Ham stay up, Sheff Utd still go down Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Point was that Sheff Utd have been hollering for a points deduction. Deduct 2, West Ham stay up, Sheff Utd still go down apologies, i didnt know west ham finished that far ahead of them Link to comment
fatshaft Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...am+plan+quashed surely they are taking the piss.Surely not, West Ham are the ones that took the piss, the EPL made a right arse of it, I hope FIFA take the points off them and send them down. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I reckon if Terrence Brown had still been chairman there would have been a points deduction, but the FA probably decided that the new owners should not be punished for the previous owners indiscretions, as far as relegation goes, and that a financial punishment to the club was fairer. At least that's what i would have argued if I was a lawyer and employed by egg(head)ert Magnusson Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 In relation to the vacant job at Bramall Lane, Stuart McCall is not being considered and is taking the Bradford job and the 3 names in the frame now are Bryan Robson, Peter Reid and Dave Bassett! Link to comment
Nespa Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 unknown to me the guy who started last week that sits next to me in work is a Sheffield United fan! Had a great time the last few days!! He now hates Aberdeen andd hopes we get pumped on Sunday!! ....how childish is that!!? Link to comment
Guest glasgowdon Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thing is, if we do get pumped, he's gonna get ye. Link to comment
Guest LondonScottish Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sheffield Utd have every right to take this further. West Ham knowingly fielded an illegal player, and only stayed up, with no shadow of a doubt because of Tevez. The blatantaly cheated, and should suffer the consequences of a hedfty points deduction. A Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sheffield Utd have every right to take this further. West Ham knowingly fielded an illegal player, and only stayed up, with no shadow of a doubt because of Tevez. The blatantaly cheated, and should suffer the consequences of a hedfty points deduction. A Link to comment
fatshaft Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 i dont really care about the EPL but the decision was made by the governing body of that league and thats it as far as i'm concerned. you say that it would have been 5-10 points deducted if it had been a lesser team but how could you possibly know this?Under the rules they should have had 10 points deducted. Link to comment
K-9 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Under the rules they should have had 10 points deducted.Under the rules, the Premier League can punish the club how they see fit and they saw fit to fine them a record amount. That is over with as all clubs agreed to let the Premier League have final decision. What they are arguing now is that Tevez should not have been allowed to carry on playing as COULD still have been deemed as an illegal player but the Premier League gave full clearence for Tevez to keep playing and ultimately he kept West Ham up. This is now completely down to Premier Leagues decision and if FIFA were to step in and make a decision relegating West Ham the Premier League will be taken to the cleaners by West Ham who after the fine have done everything by the book and if any mistake made it is Premier Leagues mistake!! Link to comment
ZeroTolerance Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Under the rules, the Premier League can punish the club how they see fit and they saw fit to fine them a record amount. That is over with as all clubs agreed to let the Premier League have final decision. What they are arguing now is that Tevez should not have been allowed to carry on playing as COULD still have been deemed as an illegal player but the Premier League gave full clearence for Tevez to keep playing and ultimately he kept West Ham up. This is now completely down to Premier Leagues decision and if FIFA were to step in and make a decision relegating West Ham the Premier League will be taken to the cleaners by West Ham who after the fine have done everything by the book and if any mistake made it is Premier Leagues mistake!!This is as absolutely correct as the EPLs judgement was absolutely wrong. The EPL absolutely should have deducted points from West Ham. The reasons given for not deducting points were absoutely laughable and Sheffield United are right to feel cheated. West Ham cheated but were slapped on the wrists. Link to comment
Madbad Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Is part of Sheffield Us argument not also that if Tevez actually "re-signed" for West Ham he did so OUTSIDE the transfer window and, as such, was ineligible for the Man U game? Link to comment
K-9 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 This is as absolutely correct as the EPLs judgement was absolutely wrong. The EPL absolutely should have deducted points from West Ham. The reasons given for not deducting points were absoutely laughable and Sheffield United are right to feel cheated. West Ham cheated but were slapped on the wrists.Why "should" they have? They made a decision within the guidelines and all the clubs agreed to let them make that final decision. It was ruled there was nothing wrong with Tevez's registration as a player and the only problem was ownership rights and events ON the pitch quite rightly dictated that West Ham players got more points over the season than Sheffield United did and Sheffield United went down. If and massive massive if West Ham do get relegated Championship play off runners up should go up. Sheffield United deserved to go down. Precedent was Livingston with Hassan Kachloul who were found to be blatently cheating by paying an amateur and SPL/SFA made similar decision to just fine the club instead of points deduction they maybe should have. P.S. If it comes to the point where FIFA get involved and Tevez's registration is deemed illegal (next to no chance of that though) then no doubt Liverpool will be in trouble also after they got to register Mascherano outwith transfer window aswell. Link to comment
ZeroTolerance Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Why "should" they have? They made a decision within the guidelines and all the clubs agreed to let them make that final decision. It was ruled there was nothing wrong with Tevez's registration as a player and the only problem was ownership rights and events ON the pitch quite rightly dictated that West Ham players got more points over the season than Sheffield United did and Sheffield United went down. If and massive massive if West Ham do get relegated Championship play off runners up should go up. Sheffield United deserved to go down. Precedent was Livingston with Hassan Kachloul who were found to be blatently cheating by paying an amateur and SPL/SFA made similar decision to just fine the club instead of points deduction they maybe should have.P.S. If it comes to the point where FIFA get involved and Tevez's registration is deemed illegal (next to no chance of that though) then no doubt Liverpool will be in trouble also after they got to register Mascherano outwith transfer window aswell. The commission concluded that a deduction of points "would normally follow from such a breach of rules". However, it went on to say that docking points would "not be proportionate". It gave seven reasons for that decision, including the club's guilty plea, and also: A points deduction so late in the season might have consigned the club to relegation The players and fans of West Ham are in no way to blame for the situation and therefore should not suffer Link to comment
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