WorthALook Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 After 3 years of jail time, he is back playing with Oldham? Unbelievable. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 He's actually still suspended. But whats so wrong he's served his time should he be denied the right to earn money for ever more? Link to comment
The Ferret Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 He's actually still suspended. But whats so wrong he's served his time should he be denied the right to earn money for ever more? Aye sent off in the Prison league for violent conduct!! Brave man. Link to comment
The Hobbit Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 He's actually still suspended. But whats so wrong he's served his time should he be denied the right to earn money for ever more? I think that's pretty spot on but I guess the question is 50% parole, for someone who has up to now shown no remorse for his actions, really suitable. He can't be punished forever. Link to comment
The Ferret Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I think that's pretty spot on but I guess the question is 50% parole, for someone who has up to now shown no remorse for his actions, really suitable.He can't be punished forever. No it isn't but is that not just typical of our justice system?! As you say he cannot be punished forever and i think it is one hell of gamble by Oldham. He is gonna get all sorts of abuse everywhere he goes so it will be interesting to see how he copes with it. Link to comment
Red Dragon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Of the opinion that a convicted criminal is entitled to re-start his career, if possible, after serving the punishment. What was he convicted of? Seem to recall death by dnagerous driving? Link to comment
The Ferret Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Of the opinion that a convicted criminal is entitled to re-start his career, if possible, after serving the punishment. What was he convicted of? Seem to recall death by dnagerous driving? Something like that but he left the scene of the crime and went into hiding for a couple of days before handing himself in! Link to comment
Guest glasgowdon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 If he wasn't a footballer, he would've been allowed to back to work without any hassle at all. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 If he wasn't a footballer, he would've been allowed to back to work without any hassle at all. not if the sun or some other tabloid rag got hold of the story they wouldnt Link to comment
Guest glasgowdon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 not if the sun or some other tabloid rag got hold of the story they wouldnt Yes they would. If he was a baker or a joiner, he might've got a wee bit of press before some other wee butterfly of a story flutters along and they run off with the net of poor journalism chasing it. Link to comment
Milners Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 He ph*(ked up and payed the cost by going to jail - now i hope he gets on with his career. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Would you cheer for him if he now played for Aberdeen? Dunno how I would react and I'm sure there must be Oldham fans in that position. But if he can recapture the form he showed for West Brom in the past, and being that he will be a figure of abuse for every opposition team playing Oldham, I can actually see him becoming a a kind of favourite there. Link to comment
Wazzamatazz Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Had an interesting chat about this in the pub a few weeks back because my mate's dad is an Oldham fan. I'm caught in two minds about the whole thing. The guy has served the time that the law requires him to serve. I don't think you can complain about the guy wanting to get on with his career, but the fact that he's a footballer and is therefore earning a healthy (though not necessarily astronimical) wage leaves a bit of a bad taste in the mouth. There are plenty of jobs where any criminal offence can stop you from following that career in the future - drug treatment counsellors in the prison for example (said mate's wife used to do this), so there's an argument about whether footballers, as role models for the young, should be allowed to continue playing after something as serious as this. Ultimately, if he was playing for Aberdeen, I wouldn't be happy. Link to comment
paulkaneatemyhamster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Would you cheer for him if he now played for Aberdeen? Dunno how I would react and I'm sure there must be Oldham fans in that position. But if he can recapture the form he showed for West Brom in the past, and being that he will be a figure of abuse for every opposition team playing Oldham, I can actually see him becoming a a kind of favourite there. If Bin Laden & Bush could form a effective strike partnership for the dons, then I would be happy. all these Oldhams fans disgusted with this , will come crawling back when he starts bagging 20 goals a season for them. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't see what the problem is here? The guy has served his debt to society and is now a free man - let him get on with it. Link to comment
Red Viking Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't see what the problem is here? The guy has served his debt to society and is now a free man - let him get on with it. Link to comment
Fife-Don Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'm sure there must be Oldham fans in that position. Now thats just a ridiculous thing to come out with. Link to comment
badly don boy Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't see what the problem is here? The guy has served his debt to society and is now a free man - let him get on with it. 3 years for killing someone? thats not serving his debt to society. Link to comment
barrowred Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 If Bin Laden & Bush could form a effective strike partnership for the dons, then I would be happy. all these Oldhams fans disgusted with this , will come crawling back when he starts bagging 20 goals a season for them. I see Bush in a holding Craig Brewster type role, with Bin Laden running on to flick-ons. Possibly Satan to come on as an impact sub. Time served-let him get on with it. Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 3 years for killing someone? thats not serving his debt to society. It's not but the main gripe with folk is he only served 3 years and originally got 6 years which I personally think is wrong especially as he killed someone and can now continue his career, not any normal job but one where he is a role model to kids. I certainly wouldn't like it if he played for AFC but then I don't like Derek Young playing for us again but I'd still support them and cheer them on if they were doing the business on the pitch. Link to comment
WorthALook Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 I think that's pretty spot on but I guess the question is 50% parole, for someone who has up to now shown no remorse for his actions, really suitable. He can't be punished forever. I wasn't suggesting he should be punished for the rest of his life, I just found it shocking he could walk straight out of prison back into football without even a trial (?). 3 years out of the game (excluding his prison football career), and 31 years old, suggests he is more than a gamble. Link to comment
CtS Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I see Bush in a holding Craig Brewster type role, with Bin Laden running on to flick-ons. Possibly Satan to come on as an impact sub. Time served-let him get on with it. Bush would specialise in the relentless bombardment of the oppositions goal. Bin Laden would be less prolific, however he'd have some spectacular strikes. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Bush would specialise in the relentless bombardment of the oppositions goal. Bin Laden would be less prolific, however he'd have some spectacular strikes.I can see problems after has run himself out and it's time for him to come off though. Link to comment
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