Dynamo Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm not sure we have any strikers that are good enough; Vernon - seems a poorer player with Maguire not creating for himMackie - Dont even start meMagennis - great attitude, but poor ability, terrible first touchPaton - showed potential a couple of years ago, not good enough now, First Div playerMegginson - Not ready - too early to say.Chalali - Not seen enough to judge. Ideally we need a striker, but more importantly a left mid/winger to give the team proper balance. Not necessarily maguire, there's no one creating chances for a poacher to stick away. Not covered himself in glory though this season with the chances he has had. Would expect him to stick away chance vs. huns and tims. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Bits and pieces in first team but mostly in pre season games. That and think Paton is absolute gash. K9, were you nae one of the guys last summer that was argueing that Paton was a better player than Maguire? Link to comment
K-9 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 K9, were you nae one of the guys last summer that was argueing that Paton was a better player than Maguire?Absolutely not - personally was flabbergasted when he got 3 year deal from McGhee as thought he was Peterhead bound when contract ran out. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 K9, were you nae one of the guys last summer that was argueing that Paton was a better player than Maguire? Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not necessarily maguire, there's no one creating chances for a poacher to stick away. Not covered himself in glory though this season with the chances he has had. Would expect him to stick away chance vs. huns and tims. Agree with that - although the number of chances he's getting has probably reduced.No Maguire, no AlukoNeither properly replaced.As I said before, I think that is poor management of a squad. hopefully Brown will come up with a surprise, but its not looking promising. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Bits and pieces in first team but mostly in pre season games. That and think Paton is absolute gash.What first team matches did you feel he made an impact in? Link to comment
K-9 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 What first team matches did you feel he made an impact in?Next to none. Which is why i say he is "not quite ready" for first team right now but has 100% more potential than Paton. Certainly impressed pre season but against highland League and Division 2 sides but ironically looked far more out of his depth against Inverness than had done when broke in at 17. But still say loon has some potential there. Whether he makes it or not is another question altogether though. Link to comment
sheepy1903 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can't say I'm disappointed, been failing to impress for a while now Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 He hasn't actually been released. He has just been told if he can get a club he can leave for free. He may not find a club and dig his heels and stay like Bobo Balde did at Celtic. Ergo he will stay draw a wage, as I doubt anyone will take him with his over inflated Dons wage If he does that, then his career is pretty much finished.Who at the end of that 18 months would take on such a waster who has been out of the game all that time just collecting a wage? Absolutely nae cxnt. Be hard enough for him finding a club from now. Yet to make an impact. Paton always made his presence felt when given a chance.Way off the wark min. He had many chances last season when he came on and did not look one little bit interested. I wouldn't say lack of ability. When he did try he looked a very good prospect in a few games. Sadly he seemed to hardly ever try and when Mcghee came the toys went out the pram and he never showed the same promise again. The fud.He was fine in McGhee's first season...I like you thought he looked potentially a decent player.It was at the start of last season when the toys went fleeing oot the pram...efter he turned down going on loan to Dundee. Nae lang efter that the Plug FB stuff came on the go...After those escapades, every minute he spent on that park for us was a complete waste of a shirt.Horrendous attitude.Typically dim witted ball bag of a Celtic fan.No loss. Go and get yersel a season ticket for the tattie bowl Michael.While ye can still afford een. Link to comment
Jonty Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 What do you expect of the youth system? A similar return, in terms of the value of sales of developed players, enjoyed by Hibs, Hearts and Dundee United would be a decent place for starters. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 No longer a kid and clearly not good enough. Never got his head up when playing. Wish him well but no loss. Link to comment
baconman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Paton rarely looked interested to me and when he was showed potential but showing potential is not enough. He wasnt delivering on the pitch and allegedly did sweet FA in training too so not surprised hes been asked to look for another club. Once again AFC doing some inept business giving this waste of space a 3 yr contract last year................................jesus wept..... :confused: Link to comment
Jonty Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Undoubtedly a better player than Mackie although not good enough to get away with such a honking attitude. I'd doubt that, 4 goals in 50 odd games says it all. Link to comment
Mikeyboy1903 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 What do you expect of the youth system? Not even going into it .... As I've said more than enough on the topic. Link to comment
GK55 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 He'll end up at somewhere like St Johnstone or ICT. No loss whatsoever. Link to comment
ebbe Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'd doubt that, 4 goals in 50 odd games says it all. i guarantee you, if paton(or anyone else for that matter) had the game time and loyalty mackie has recieved over the last 11 years he'd contribute and score far more. it would just about be impossible to do a worse job than mackie has done. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 He'll end up at somewhere like St Johnstone or ICT. No loss whatsoever. I'd go 1st Div at a push. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 i guarantee you, if paton(or anyone else for that matter) had the game time and loyalty mackie has recieved over the last 11 years he'd contribute and score far more. it would just about be impossible to do a worse job than mackie has done. Are you suggesting that if they played more games our youth squad would develop far better? Link to comment
Jonty Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 i guarantee you, if paton(or anyone else for that matter) had the game time and loyalty mackie has recieved over the last 11 years he'd contribute and score far more. it would just about be impossible to do a worse job than mackie has done. You "guarantee" me? How you going to do that exactly - invent a time machine and start Paton in every game Mackie has started over the last 11 seasons I'm going to trust Craig Brown, who has opted to free Paton and not Mackie, to be a better judge of a footballer than you. Link to comment
ebbe Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 You "guarantee" me? How you going to do that exactly - invent a time machine and start Paton in every game Mackie has started over the last 11 seasons I'm going to trust Craig Brown, who has opted to free Paton and not Mackie, to be a better judge of a footballer than you. i've already invented the time machine. trust craig brown all you like, paton and mackie are both s*ite. remember, mr brown doesn't think you need a left side to compete in the spl. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does every topic seem to degenerate into arguments slagging off Darren Mackie. Is he the cause of all our problems? Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does every topic seem to degenerate into arguments slagging off Darren Mackie. Is he the cause of all our problems? Pretty much. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Liam McLeod tweeting that Paton is to be released so one would assume we've struck a deal to pay him off (as there is fat chance he's agreed to leave without one). Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Liam McLeod tweeting that Paton is to be released so one would assume we've struck a deal to pay him off (as there is fat chance he's agreed to leave without one). would you? Why oh why do we pay off Paton and not 20 a f**king day baron mackie Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does every topic seem to degenerate into arguments slagging off Darren Mackie. Is he the cause of all our problems? looking at it objectively We used to win thing Mackie came along now we dont Link to comment
Proud9 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm a fan of Paton, never given a proper chance, especially upfront looked good until McGhee tried to punt him, maybe knocked his confidence. probably our best finisher too going from his past goals. Link to comment
stalin Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm a fan of Paton, never given a proper chance, especially upfront looked good until McGhee tried to punt him, maybe knocked his confidence. probably our best finisher too going from his past goals. paton off to stockport on loan apparently Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 paton off to stockport on loan apparentlyHe won't be that far from his mate Zander then. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 paton off to stockport on loan apparently Sauce? Link to comment
Monkey Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sauce?BBC journalist on Twitter reported this about 20 mins ago. Interesting move, Dietmar Hamann has been on the look out for a striker as Stockport are struggling to score.If Paton gets a good run there it might benefit all parties. EDIT: Wages appear to be a problem for County though and AFC would need to take a share of these according to another journalist who is reporting the deal. Link to comment
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