Ronaldo

[Bluto10]

Haha, you don't score that many goals from Man U days / Europe / Real Madrid if you're not 'that' good.

 

Sometimes you baffle me.

 

true but i think there a paucity of greta players around at the moment.

 

sure ronaldo is really good, but he nowhere near the legendary status that id give to, say, the following...

 

zidane,

ronaldinhio

ronaldo

baggio

beckham

gullit

vanbsten

 

 

i know i'm being a bit harsh on him but he did cost real madrid 80m quid. and he does tlove himself too much. set against that, he doesnt match up.

 

i liked him in the euros but couldnt help but feel his ballgreedyness hampered a decent, if not world beating, portugal side. and the penalty stuff.

[vanderark14]

true but i think there a paucity of greta players around at the moment.

 

sure ronaldo is really good, but he nowhere near the legendary status that id give to, say, the following...

 

zidane,

ronaldinhio

ronaldo

baggio

beckham

gullit

vanbsten

 

 

i know i'm being a bit harsh on him but he did cost real madrid 80m quid. and he does tlove himself too much. set against that, he doesnt match up.

 

i liked him in the euros but couldnt help but feel his ballgreedyness hampered a decent, if not world beating, portugal side. and the penalty stuff.

 

your fishing is boring as fuck

[Bluto10]

VDA did the speaking for me on that front.

 

well that one is obvioulsy a joke.

[Dynamo]

114 goals in 104 Real Madrid games.

 

Can't really argue against that Bluto.

[Bluto10]

114 goals in 104 Real Madrid games.

 

Can't really argue against that Bluto.

 

 

i'm not. i'd just expect more for 80m and a pele sized ego.

[stand_free]

Messi>Ronaldo

 

Would definitely still class Ronaldo as a great player though. But not up there with the best of all time yet. Both him and Messi need to do more internationally. Media would jizz there pants for an Argentina-Portugal final in Rio.

[dezzy_dan]

i'm not. i'd just expect more for 80m and a pele sized ego.

 

How much more do you want?

 

You're always keen to argue that if you take Messi out the Barcelona team, they would be very ordinary. The same applies to Real and Ronaldo.

[Bluto10]

How much more do you want?

 

You're always keen to argue that if you take Messi out the Barcelona team, they would be very ordinary. The same applies to Real and Ronaldo.

 

well he cost nearly twice what zidane did. is he really 2 luis figos?

i'd expect a player with more of a team ethic for a start. a humble player. someone with a bit more fortitude. but yes he probably does score enough goals.

 

barca wouldnt be ordinary without messi, but he is a onece in a generation player, so he makes a big difference.

[Dynamo]

Clarify what more you expect? Goals? Saves? Maisies from his own penalty box skinning every player in the other team twice and dinking it over the goalie from 25 yards?

[Bluto10]

Clarify what more you expect? Goals? Saves? Maisies from his own penalty box skinning every player in the other team twice and dinking it over the goalie from 25 yards?

 

he's nae the only cunt that scores goals you know.

 

 

you seem to be happy cause hes a very good footballer.

 

maybe for 80m i exepct him to win the cl, and nae miss a penaty en route, singlehandedly. and also win the euros. and every other competition he enters. every single year.

 

aanyway, my point is that he cost too much. his is a player who, imo, is just very good but not legendary. suppose its not his fault real paid that much.

[stand_free]

well he cost nearly twice what zidane did. is he really 2 luis figos?

i'd expect a player with more of a team ethic for a start. a humble player. someone with a bit more fortitude. but yes he probably does score enough goals.

 

barca wouldnt be ordinary without messi, but he is a onece in a generation player, so he makes a big difference.

 

You're not factoring in how much the football market has escalated since then though.

 

He's also not 16 Maradonas or over 80 Johan Cruyff's.

[zerodon47]

ronaldo is a great, great goalscorer. and will go down as one of, maybe the best goalscorer ever. but he certainly is not and will not be anywhere near as good as the likes of previosuly mentioned folk like zizou, messi, figo, ronaldo, baggio etc.

 

oh and as for folk that say messi and ronaldo need to win world cup blah blah......bollocks! one of the most overused and bullshit arguments ever. maradona zidane and pele didna win the world cup themselves and anybody who says otherwise is speakin shit, these lads played in top quality teams at the time and theyr victory was part of a great team effort full of other top class players.

[dezzy_dan]

well he cost nearly twice what zidane did. is he really 2 luis figos?

i'd expect a player with more of a team ethic for a start. a humble player. someone with a bit more fortitude. but yes he probably does score enough goals.

 

barca wouldnt be ordinary without messi, but he is a onece in a generation player, so he makes a big difference.

 

Using that analogy, Zidane should have been 10 Maradonas, if you use rough transfer prices of 50m and 5m respectively (which I think would be fairly accurate). The market is continually expanding.

 

Cristiano Ronaldo now directly involved in 200 goals in his last 178 games with Man Utd (53) and Real Madrid (125): 149 goals & 51 assists.

 

Aye, he's just not that good. That stat is from Feb 12.

 

I'm baffled.

 

Me too.

[chaos_defrost]

What does his price tag have to do with how good he is?

 

Him and Messi will always get compared. Can't pick between them. Both have amazing goal scoring records.

[Bluto10]

What does his price tag have to do with how good he is?

 

a lot really, surely. one way to campare footballer, like we all enjoy doing, is from the cost. it helps us to quantfiy players relative to one another.

 

we know football is fcuked on many levels, but 80m for one player is ridiculous.

 

if said player is egotistical and is complaining cause he either a) doesnt get paid enough or b)isnt valued as highly as he believes he should be then we equally can question whether he is as good as he thinks he is.

 

and this is where i stand alone in saying that ronaldo has not justified his transfer fee.

admittedly it would be ahrd for any player to justify 80m pounds.

the form and character messi has shown over the past 6 years could justify it considerably more than ronaldo.

[The Boofon]

a lot really, surely. one way to campare footballer, like we all enjoy doing, is from the cost. it helps us to quantfiy players relative to one another.

 

we know football is fcuked on many levels, but 80m for one player is ridiculous.

 

if said player is egotistical and is complaining cause he either a) doesnt get paid enough or b)isnt valued as highly as he believes he should be then we equally can question whether he is as good as he thinks he is.

 

and this is where i stand alone in saying that ronaldo has not justified his transfer fee.

admittedly it would be ahrd for any player to justify 80m pounds.

the form and character messi has shown over the past 6 years could justify it considerably more than ronaldo.

 

How much did Barcelona pay for Messi?

[Bluto10]

How much did Barcelona pay for Messi?

 

nothing (i presume) and its all hypotheitcal of course.

 

ronaldo is sad, allegedly because he isnt paid enough or he still isnt the best player in spain.

 

if i was him id keep quiet and make more of an effort to pay back that madrid outlay

[chaos_defrost]

a lot really, surely. one way to campare footballer, like we all enjoy doing, is from the cost. it helps us to quantfiy players relative to one another.

 

we know football is fcuked on many levels, but 80m for one player is ridiculous.

 

if said player is egotistical and is complaining cause he either a) doesnt get paid enough or b)isnt valued as highly as he believes he should be then we equally can question whether he is as good as he thinks he is.

 

and this is where i stand alone in saying that ronaldo has not justified his transfer fee.

admittedly it would be ahrd for any player to justify 80m pounds.

the form and character messi has shown over the past 6 years could justify it considerably more than ronaldo.

 

There is no player that has ever existed that justifies a transfer fee of

[stand_free]

Buying players has way more to do with their performance on the pitch nowadays, it's also whether Madrid can make the money back in shirt sales etc.

 

Messi's only cost to Barca was his relocation and medication for his growth problems. They reckoned if he hadn't got it he'd have only grown to about 4' 10" He's been much better than Ronaldo for years. Since the season Man U last won the Champions League.

[Bluto10]

Buying players has way more to do with their performance on the pitch nowadays, it's also whether Madrid can make the money back in shirt sales etc.

 

Messi's only cost to Barca was his relocation and medication for his growth problems. They reckoned if he hadn't got it he'd have only grown to about 4' 10" He's been much better than Ronaldo for years. Since the season Man U last won the Champions League.

 

thats kindof my point.

 

ronaldo is perhaps capable of messis brilliance and importance to his team, but he is too selfish to achieve it.

[The Boofon]

nothing (i presume) and its all hypotheitcal of course.

 

ronaldo is sad, allegedly because he isnt paid enough or he still isnt the best player in spain.

 

if i was him id keep quiet and make more of an effort to pay back that madrid outlay

 

So Messi doesn't have to make an effort because they didn't pay for him?

[Henry]

 

 

if i was him id keep quiet

 

Unfortunately for us, you're a fat alcoholic waster who has never seen a real live vagina.

[Bluto10]

Unfortunately for us, you're a fat alcoholic waster who has never seen a real live vagina.

here is one for you harcus.

 

this is a splleing mistake.

[The Boofon]

Unfortunately for us, you're a fat alcoholic waster who has never seen a real live vagina.

 

 

 

What does a dead vagina look like?

[Ando]

 

What does a dead vagina look like?

 

Craig Brown's mouth.

[vanderark14]

 

What does a dead vagina look like?

 

blue waffle

[chaos_defrost]

Buying players has way more to do with their performance on the pitch nowadays, it's also whether Madrid can make the money back in shirt sales etc.

 

You're both missing the point unless I am. Of course Real Madrid want to see a good return from a player they paid

[stand_free]

You're both missing the point unless I am. Of course Real Madrid want to see a good return from a player they paid

[E-P-K]

Nae bad week for Ronaldo, Hatrick last weekend, hatrick midweek, and a double against Barca last night, 8 goals in 7 days, and becomes the first Real Madrid or Barca player to score in 6 consecutive classico's.

[Dynamo]

Nae bad week for Ronaldo, Hatrick last weekend, hatrick midweek, and a double against Barca last night, 8 goals in 7 days, and becomes the first Real Madrid or Barca player to score in 6 consecutive classico's.

 

Aye but can he do it in the big games?