Citizen Kane Fit Like Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Defeat to Dunfermline at Pittodrie on Friday must surely mean Brown isn't up to the task. With a run of United and the Old Firm following the Dunfermline game, failure to win any points tomorrow is going to see us neck deep in the shit. A draw or a win, on the other hand, won't really prove anything, but might gain Broon some breathing room. Personally I reckon he should have been presented with his jotters right after the loss to East Fife, but if he loses tomorrow then can the club really afford to persevere with someone who, to be fair, is looking well past his best. Not that his best was ever that great in the first place. Link to comment
K-9 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Would mean the end for Brown. But for some reason I think we will sneak this one. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Would mean the end for Brown. Would it? I'm nae so sure min. Link to comment
Stoney Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I have seen nothing in any of our home games to suggest that we have it in us to break down an organised team. This has draw written all over it, and as per the killie game, i just hope its a scoring one. Looking Cally thistles up coming games this is must win, that phrase gets banded about a lot on here. But if we dont beat Dunfermline and with the games we have coming up i cant see where the points are coming from. Link to comment
Chrisyboy81 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 If we don't pick up 4 points minimum from Dunfermline and DU we are in big trouble, we really need 6 to give us any hope. After Hibs winning I am starting to get a bit worried. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 It would mean we had lost a match against another SPL team. That is all. Of course, it will also mean numerous posters on here will take the opportunity to greet because they can't handle their team not winning a match, but the girning is really neither here nor there in the greater scheme of things. Link to comment
Stoney Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 It would mean we had lost a match against another SPL team. That is all. Of course, it will also mean numerous posters on here will take the opportunity to greet because they can't handle their team not winning a match, but the girning is really neither here nor there in the greater scheme of things. Clown Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 The greater scheme of things? Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Clown You're a what? Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Would mean the end for Brown. But for some reason I think we will sneak this one. I think he's on borrowed time already.The board and much of the support know this.Should of been binned last week after we were knocked out of a cup at home by the team bottom of the 3rd tier. AFC = Nae pride. Fits his current record?2 wins out of 20 odd is it not? I'd fancy my chances to match that and have a better squad in place. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Would mean the end for Brown. But for some reason I think we will sneak this one. I don't think it will be the end for Brown either, if we lose tomorrow night. Not sure what it will take for that to board to act, maybe a hiding from either Utd or the Old Firm but reckon he will struggle on for a whiley yet. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I don't think it will be the end for Brown either, if we lose tomorrow night. Not sure what it will take for that to board to act, maybe a hiding from either Utd or the Old Firm but reckon he will struggle on for a whiley yet. Only delaying what we all know will happen. He should be gone by now and has got to be gone by the next window. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 We are going to win tomorrow so its not an issue ! Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 We are going to win tomorrow so its not an issue ! Affa early to be on that crack pipe min. Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Defeat to Dunfermline at Pittodrie on Friday must surely mean Brown isn't up to the task Hard to disagree with that - I think he would resign, thats the kind of bloke he is. It wouldn't be a conventional walk away though, I reckon he'd speak to Milne then they would all sit down together and discuss who to go for - with Craig Brown included in that conversation. There may be a solution whereby Knox would stay and assist a younger man coming in - that could be someone like Derek McInnes or even Billy Davis for example. If this were to happen Dons fans would have to just accept that person and throw any prejudices out the windae. Let see what happens. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Hard to disagree with that - I think he would resign, thats the kind of bloke he is. If he was "that kind of bloke" he'd of walked after east fife or even after sat. The man is a con artist! Link to comment
knighto Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I reckon we will win it, not becuase i am optimistic about our team but just because that seems to be the pattern of when we need change - It will give Brown breathing space to take us on a run of 6 straight defeats and leave us flirting with relegation, season virtually over before it's begun, with a snow ball's chance in hell in getting the top six never mind a place in Europe!! Link to comment
Tommy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Hard to disagree with that - I think he would resign, thats the kind of bloke he is. It wouldn't be a conventional walk away though, I reckon he'd speak to Milne then they would all sit down together and discuss who to go for - with Craig Brown included in that conversation. There may be a solution whereby Knox would stay and assist a younger man coming in - that could be someone like Derek McInnes or even Billy Davis for example. If this were to happen Dons fans would have to just accept that person and throw any prejudices out the windae. Let see what happens. Defeat tomorrow and i don't want Brown anywhere near discussions on his replacement. Link to comment
Citizen Kane Fit Like Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 It would mean we had lost a match against another SPL team. That is all. That opinion surprises me. That a loss at home to fellow relegation candidates would, or should, be taken in isolation, rather than as another defeat of a side that can't score goals, can't compete against amateurs, and is going into a run of games against three sides that we struggle against. Do you take every game in isolation, rather than viewing it as part of a broader picture (3 wins in 21, a couple of goals in 9 games, 2 seasons in 9th place and the prospect of another season around the same level), or is there a particular reason you're taking the Dunfermline game in isolation from our current level of performance and run of results? Taking each game in isolation seems, to me, to be a suicidal policy. Ach, it's only one defeat against East Fife. Ach it's only one defeat against Motherwell. Ach it's only one defeat against Dunfermline, etc. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Defeat to Dunfermline at Pittodrie on Friday must surely mean Brown isn't up to the task. With a run of United and the Old Firm following the Dunfermline game, failure to win any points tomorrow is going to see us neck deep in the shit. A draw or a win, on the other hand, won't really prove anything, but might gain Broon some breathing room. Personally I reckon he should have been presented with his jotters right after the loss to East Fife, but if he loses tomorrow then can the club really afford to persevere with someone who, to be fair, is looking well past his best. Not that his best was ever that great in the first place.A draw isn't good enough. Nothing less than a win tomorrow, even scraping a win might not be good enough (for some people). 3 points is a must, if we draw against dunfermline it's pretty much as bad as a defeat in that we're no closer to getting us out of this shit and we're lacking the killer touch. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Fair chance with our tactics it'll be a draw and Broon will limp on. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Affa early to be on that crack pipe min. Why not though . Dunfermline are pretty awful ! We have been creating chances and not taking them . Tomorrow is the night it all clicks together . Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Why not though . Dunfermline are pretty awful ! We have been creating chances and not taking them . Tomorrow is the night it all clicks together . Cos we are equally as shite, have a poor manager, nagative tactics, no width and no confidence. If it all clicks we'll get the draw broon would settle for. Link to comment
Chrisyboy81 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 A draw isn't good enough. Nothing less than a win tomorrow, even scraping a win might not be good enough (for some people). 3 points is a must, if we draw against dunfermline it's pretty much as bad as a defeat in that we're no closer to getting us out of this shit and we're lacking the killer touch.I'm with you on this one a draw is as much good to us as a defeat, we have to get a win especially before the bigot bros. 1 win so far is awful. Link to comment
Granite City Reds Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Would mean the end for Brown. But for some reason I think we will sneak this one. I don't think it will be the end for Brown. Milne was very patient with McGhee and it was the performance at Kilmarnock that got him the sack. I think it all depends on performance against Dunfermline if it is as bad a Kilmarnock then they might consider it. I've not seen as bad a performance as Killie match under brown yet. We have a good record against the Pars at pittodrie although they have great away record in SPL so far. They have been dreadful in a lot of games this season getting results lets hope it doesn't go that way this time. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thats the thing, a poor performance where we scrape a win is only delaying the inevitable. we NEED a performance and a reaction from the players and the manager that they are willing to pull their socks up, take their fingers out of their arses and start FIGHTING for Aberdeen Football Club. If we can't even do that against one of the weakest teams in the SPL then we would be as well getting rid of Brown and the players at 10pm on Friday evening. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Defeat and Brown should walk, if not sacked by Monday. Draw and Brown should walk, if not sacked by Monday. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 That opinion surprises me. That a loss at home to fellow relegation candidates would, or should, be taken in isolation, rather than as another defeat of a side that can't score goals, can't compete against amateurs, and is going into a run of games against three sides that we struggle against. Do you take every game in isolation, rather than viewing it as part of a broader picture (3 wins in 21, a couple of goals in 9 games, 2 seasons in 9th place and the prospect of another season around the same level), or is there a particular reason you're taking the Dunfermline game in isolation from our current level of performance and run of results? Taking each game in isolation seems, to me, to be a suicidal policy. Ach, it's only one defeat against East Fife. Ach it's only one defeat against Motherwell. Ach it's only one defeat against Dunfermline, etc. Nope. Just that it's still September. The season runs until May. We hired someone to do a job for 2 years. Bit stupid to give them one 12th of that time to build a squad. This is not just about this season, after all. We may well finish 10th - it's more about the road forward. Calderwood was able to get us finishing 5th and 6th but with no real strategy to take us forward - Brown is looking to (and needs to) change the whole philosophy and mindset of the club. This takes time to allow a turnover of players Personally, if we did have to remove Brown as first team manager, I'd have him as director of football instead of Miller (who, let's face it, is only there due to his playing status rather than any discernible knowledge he has) and retain Knox as an experienced assistant to whoever comes in - someone of the Adams or McInnes type - young and hungry. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Nope. Just that it's still September. The season runs until May. We hired someone to do a job for 2 years. Bit stupid to give them one 12th of that time to build a squad. :confused: :confused: :confused: Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 :confused: :confused: :confused: 2 months from 2 years is expressed as one twelfth in fractions. Link to comment
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