Sevco Thread

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Thing is, you're not asking them to remove titles, yet. All you're asking, as Celtic cleverly do, is that matters are reinvestigated.

[Donmacca]

Always the pessimist but the SFA & SPFL will do nothing

[mcdougall(4)]

 

Like you say the employee should not normally be liable for any PAYE/NI to paid by your employer. There is an interesting point made here though:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40505839

 

Will those who took part now be chased for unpaid tax?

The company is liable for the tax but given the company is in liquidation then the buck stops with the liquidators - in this case BDO. This doesn't mean that individuals who were in receipt of an EBT escape payment. Legislation is expected in the next few months that will require tax to be paid on all loans received through the EBT process from 1999 onwards.

 

 

 

Maybe im reading that wrong but it suggests that Barry and all his hun mates could end up being chased also?

 

If you enter into an EBT knowing its tax avoidance then why would they not be liable for employee NI contributions say?

 

 

 

Also, when LMS said that they gained no sporting advantage, it was when the BTC was ruled against HMRC. Now its final and in favour of them then surely this needs to be looked at again

 

It doesn't cost Hector anything to ask for the moneys owed, on the basis they knew, if some pay up its a 'bonus' - if others want to fight it - Hector has deep pockets and time.

 

As they always said, it wasn't Just about Rangers, but the legal precedent.

[tup]

Always the pessimist but the SFA & SPFL will do nothing

Don't think that's an option here somehow.

[Donmacca]

Don't think that's an option here somehow.

 

I really hope they both pin the huns down and violently bum fuck them but the SFA and SPFL have a history or preserving the status quo.

[nazrat]

Could they get back.through the "they played an ineligible player route? Something on Twitter bout this.

[boboisared]

Anyone able to post the SFA statement. I'm currently unable to view anything on twitter for the next 2 and a half hours so canna see what they're saying.

[tup]

Don't think they have said anything although the SPFL have said they will 'consider the implications'.

[BWG]

Between the verdict and last nights result the BBC are in fucking meltdown.

[chief_wiggum]

Could they get back.through the "they played an ineligible player route? Something on Twitter bout this.

 

No the player in question had been given some medication for an asthma attack when he played for someone else and has been retrospectively been given the okay as it was meds needed due to sudden ill health.........................I believe?

[boboisared]

Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling Wednesday, 05 July 2017

 

The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1957&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=17055

[BWG]

 

Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling Wednesday, 05 July 2017

 

The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

 

In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

 

The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

 

Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

 

The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

 

Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1957&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=17055

 

 

What a surprise. SFA should give Blatter a job. He'd fit right in.

[chief_wiggum]

 

Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling Wednesday, 05 July 2017

 

The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

 

In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

 

The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

 

Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

 

The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

 

Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1957&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=17055

 

[Parklife]

 

Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling Wednesday, 05 July 2017

 

The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

 

In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

 

The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

 

Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

 

The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

 

Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1957&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=17055

 

Will not be tolerated. We, as fans, must make this clear to our club.

[tup]

All clubs need to boycott Scottish football until these cheats and their masonic appeasers are brought to heel.

[buchanskii]

All clubs need to boycott Scottish football until these cheats and their masonic appeasers are brought to heel.

 

Hear, hear.

[V for Vendetta]

 

Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling Wednesday, 05 July 2017

 

The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

 

In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

 

The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

 

Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

 

The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

 

Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1957&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=17055

 

 

I think that is quite the most incredible thing I've ever seen from the SFA.

 

Am I wrong to paraphrase that as

 

"The independant advice was we couldn't meaningfully punish them so we have decided not to take any action"

 

Dear god.

 

So we shouldn't bother taking criminals to court now because the available punishments might not be very good?

 

Quite incredible.

 

This isn't about fining or suspending the new Rangers.

 

I really fail to see how anyone can stop them from changing the officialrecords books for the period that all the EBT players were dishonestly registered, logical conclusion of which would be the re-assignment of the titles and trophies.

 

I further fail to see why they cannot issue lifetime bans on the directors involved from ever having any position in Scottish Football again - lets not forget Dave King, Paul Murray were involved in this cheating scam and are now on the board of the new replacement club.

 

I also can't see what is possibly stopping the SFA from a clear and unambigious statement that the new Rangers Football Club is just that - a NEW Club.

[BWG]

Scottish Government are going to need to get involved here. This is institutionalized corruption on a massive scale. Not only did RFC knowingly break the law, the SFA are were complicit in it.

[tup]

The SFA need bringing down to resolve this.

 

Remember old handshaker Macrae was saying just a few weeks ago 'we need Rangers back'.

 

These folk are openly complicit in criminality.

[360]

All clubs need to boycott Scottish football until these cheats and their masonic appeasers are brought to heel.

 

Let us hope that Brother Cormack can turn a few of their heads.

[craegDAMH]

Predictably shambolic.

 

Is it not the SPFL that could strip the titles anyway though?

 

I hope Panda and his mates are doing their job and calling up other Scottish clubs for their own statement after this.

[V for Vendetta]

The SFA need bringing down to resolve this.

 

Remember old handshaker Macrae was saying just a few weeks ago 'we need Rangers back'.

 

These folk are openly complicit in criminality.

 

Redstar's GWT epitaph would fit Mcrae and his ilk at the SFA perfectly.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

As I said this morning the obvious trouble-shooting, well capping response was to present two heads on sticks this morning, Regan and Doncaster.

 

It appears they don't have the sense to do this and are preparing to fight their corner.

[V for Vendetta]

Predictably shambolic.

 

Is it not the SPFL that could strip the titles anyway though?

 

I hope Panda and his mates are doing their job and calling up other Scottish clubs for their own statement after this.

 

Would need to be both.

 

SFA runs the Scottish Cup.

 

SPFL the League and League Cup obviously.

[V for Vendetta]

Who needs the SFA and SPFL.

 

Just get the cunts filed off the trophies now.

 

I'm sure Celtic can pop them down to the nearest engraver or jsut give Leigh Griffiths a loan of some metal files.

[V for Vendetta]

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/07/05/rangers-are-bust-ed/

[mcdougall(4)]

Scottish Government are going to need to get involved here. This is institutionalized corruption on a massive scale. Not only did RFC knowingly break the law, the SFA are were complicit in it.

 

Are they likely to? Just had their nose bloodied and they've already cosied up to the tattie munchers as much as is humanly possible.

 

Like to see it tho

[Henry]

Predictably shambolic.

 

Is it not the SPFL that could strip the titles anyway though?

 

I hope Panda and his mates are doing their job and calling up other Scottish clubs for their own statement after this.

I would imagine he'll be busy burying his head in the sand as we type.

[scoot]

 

 

I hope Panda and his mates are doing their job and calling up other Scottish clubs for their own statement after this.

 

 

Hahaha, fucking doubt it.

[waldo5]

Corrupt as fuck and nowt will change until clubs take a stand. Freemasonry at its finest.