Firefighters' Strike

[terenceandphilip]

Its not fair that they have to work till 60 or something.

 

 

Meanwhile in the real world ....

[BrianFaePerth]

....they are called firemen

[daytripping]

Caker of a job, sleeping and playing pool, fire or crash once in a blue moon to lift the spirits, they can fuck off with their strikes, don't like the changes then plenty people will take their places.

[StandFree1982]

Striking

 

Blackmail is a crime, striking is effectively blackmail. They are simply going "Your fucked if we're on strike...so you better give us what we want". Anyone who strikes should be immediately fired! Risking lives because they want a fucking 11% pay rise....fuck off you bunch of intolerable cunts.

[dave_min]

Who cares?

 

It's England and Wales only.

[StandFree1982]

Who cares?

 

It's England and Wales only.

Good point.

 

Strike away lads.

[terenceandphilip]

can't see how a 56 year old these days can claim to be so unfit they can't work. If that's the case you haven't looked after yourself very well.

 

 

However, i don't like seeing one groups pensions changed by the government when the bankers got to keep their ridiculous ones. Saying that, they should try paying into a regular stakeholder pension and see what they get back - all the firemen are saying 'we payed nearly £300 a month'. Wow that would not get you a fireman's penion in a regular pension and therein lies the problem.

[Bluto10]

Caker of a job, sleeping and playing pool, fire or crash once in a blue moon to lift the spirits, they can fuck off with their strikes, don't like the changes then plenty people will take their places.

 

whast the training\education level required for this job anyway?

nae much, thats what.

your damn right mate; plenty folk could do that job.

[Bluto10]

can't see how a 56 year old these days can claim to be so unfit they can't work. If that's the case you haven't looked after yourself very well.

 

tups a good 15 years younger than that and he disna work.

#slovenlysloth

[madjockmcferson]

They all work second jobs. Get paid plenty, don't do much. They can fuck off.

[looksgoodinred]

wouldn't say the firefighters are overpaid to begin with, but to end up with a pension at 60 that's just a few thousand shy of your full working wage is damn good.

 

"A firefighter who earns £29,000, and retires after a full career aged 60, will get a £19,000-a-year pension, rising to £26,000 with the state pension. An equivalent private sector pension pot would be worth over half a million pounds and require firefighters to contribute twice as much.

"The firefighter pension age of 60 was introduced in 2006 and is in line with the police and armed forces.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/25/firefighters-strike-pensions-england-wales

 

i'm surprised to see that firefighters aren't considered essential services and blocked from striking?

[JasonC]

What should they do, lie down and accept the cuts? Only fighting for what they signed up for and on top of a 1% pay rise in four years. Seems to be a lot of negativity towards these people who may save your arse or your loved ones arse for that matter.

[daytripping]

What should they do, lie down and accept the cuts? Only fighting for what they signed up for and on top of a 1% pay rise in four years. Seems to be a lot of negativity towards these people who may save your arse or your loved ones arse for that matter.

 

The private sector now have to work till about 67 then retire on a pittance unless they've saved loads, the firemen are just being brought into the real World, they're still getting to retire early but with people living longer they're having to move with the times like everyone else. If the money was there to pay them all in retirement then fine but it isn't, same as everyone else.

[terenceandphilip]

 

"A firefighter who earns £29,000, and retires after a full career aged 60, will get a £19,000-a-year pension, rising to £26,000 with the state pension. An equivalent private sector pension pot would be worth over half a million pounds and require firefighters to contribute twice as much.

"The firefighter pension age of 60 was introduced in 2006 and is in line with the police and armed forces.

 

 

until people grasp the reality of statements like the above, they go around thinking they've been hard done to. Never met a hard up fireman, they all work second jobs (most folk wouldn't have the time) plus plenty of guys offshore in their 50s seem to manage fine. 56 or 57 is simply not old these days.

 

Public pensions are a nonsense, and public sector staff have no idea of economic reality. Can't imagine much public symapthy for this strike.

[JasonC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpiS0IMOzw8

[daytripping]

Blocked at work mate!

[BrianFaePerth]

Blocked at work mate!

 

He was calling you a spastic

[daytripping]

He was calling you a spastic

 

Good call to be fair!

[Dynamo]

it's part of a fire-fighters job to keep fit. To retire at 60 seems fair to me. Keeping fit whilst in your 40s and 50s shouldn't be difficult unless you're a lazy bastard.

[terenceandphilip]

anyone would think they're being asked to put out fires till they're 90.

 

people in their 50s run marathons ffs.

[Bluto10]

firefighters have a tendancy to take their tops off too much; a la take that, so they can get to fuck, poofy little queers

[daytripping]

They always go squealing to the police when local youth attack them, see it on police documentaries all the time.....oooohh they're stoning the truck please help us.

 

It would be law of the jungle If I was there, run at them screaming with a fire axe.

[The Boofon]

anyone would think they're being asked to put out fires till they're 90.

 

people in their 50s run marathons ffs.

 

 

They did a cracking job of washing my car last Saturday in Portsoy. Nice coffee morning as well and the bairns got to sit in the fire engine.

 

More power to their elbow is what I saw.

 

You're being controversial here for the sake of it T&P. Stick to Monkey House weeds. Has that been sorted yet?

[terenceandphilip]

half a million in your pension pot by 60 is not to be sniffed at, let alone going on strike over.

[Guest milne_afc]

Anyone who is so concerned about their pension is hardly suitable for the job anyway.

 

Firemen should be maverick types with scant regard for their own well being. Be a good job for heroin addicts and criminals serving sentences of 5 years or more.

[Guest milne_afc]

I'm semi retired already. Ain't all that to be honest.

[Guest milne_afc]

Might start looking for a proper job soon. Really don't see the point though, so I probably won't.

[Guest milne_afc]

Might do an HGV course.

 

Those long distance drivers get up to some larks.

[BrianFaePerth]

Murdering prostitutes and hitchhikers?

Sounds like fun.

Don In Oz has managed it without the HGV licence. Just get yourself a ticket to Oz and pick your quiet outback trail.

[Bluto10]

Get you're self an asbo like moaby min Milner, badge of honour like