Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[Edwin Starr]

Here's what a 🔔 end looks like.

 

 

[alscotoz]

On 11/2/2023 at 7:32 PM, Edwin Starr said:

Thank you for the reply Joe.

Ed, thought a man of your vintage would have known better than to have put so much store/blind faith in politicians?

[Edwin Starr]

6 hours ago, alscotoz said:

Ed, thought a man of your vintage would have known better than to have put so much store/blind faith in politicians?

I do apologise alscotoz.

Not sure what you mean.

[Edwin Starr]

 

 

How i see it.

[alscotoz]

4 hours ago, Edwin Starr said:

I do apologise alscotoz.

Not sure what you mean.

Not sure what you're apologising for.

Politicians of all stripes are destined to let people down...in my experience. Even though it will never directly affect my life, I've always hoped Scotland would be independent, and I hope it will be one day for guys like yourself especially. But it appears that the SNP were not the vehicle to deliver that, and if anything have been a stumbling block. They have wasted a lot of years and need to get out of the way.

[Edwin Starr]

1 hour ago, alscotoz said:

Not sure what you're apologising for.

Politicians of all stripes are destined to let people down...in my experience. Even though it will never directly affect my life, I've always hoped Scotland would be independent, and I hope it will be one day for guys like yourself especially. But it appears that the SNP were not the vehicle to deliver that, and if anything have been a stumbling block. They have wasted a lot of years and need to get out of the way.

Thank you . 

Yes I do agree .

[Jocky Balboa]

2 hours ago, alscotoz said:

Not sure what you're apologising for.

Politicians of all stripes are destined to let people down...in my experience. Even though it will never directly affect my life, I've always hoped Scotland would be independent, and I hope it will be one day for guys like yourself especially. But it appears that the SNP were not the vehicle to deliver that, and if anything have been a stumbling block. They have wasted a lot of years and need to get out of the way.

The SNP succumbed to the old adage about how 'absolute power corrupts and power corrupts absolutely'. They had an easy gig after 2014, benefitting from the (deserved) collapse of the Labour Party and, to some extent, the Lib Dems. Both showed that, when push really came to shove, they would defend the status quo at all costs, as evidenced by Labour's dominant role in the Tory-funded "Better Together" campaign and the Lib Dems continued ultra-unionist stance, despite being by far the most pro-EU of them all. 

The SNP became New Labour, in effect, only requiring a yellow rosette at the ballot box (even if said candidate was a trained monkey) to be guaranteed success... And the limited powers of Hollyrood (a glorified parish council, which controls only about 30% of Scotland's affairs) meant they could simply pin most of their failures on Westminster, regardless of the incompetence of careerists like Wishart, neocons like McDonald and shady characters like Murrell. All while doing little, if anything, to actually achieve independence... Also blaming Westminster for this as well! 

Their demise is as deserved as New Labour, but the danger of letting Labour back into power in Scotland should be obvious. It's imperative that the independence movement regroups and, most importantly, learns from its failures, if it's ever going to achieve its goal. 

[Don Fonte]

^NRT

[For Fecks Sake]

8 hours ago, Edwin Starr said:

 

 

How i see it.

Lost me at "Scottish Broadcasting Corporation would not tell lies" 🤣

[Edwin Starr]

1 hour ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Lost me at "Scottish Broadcasting Corporation would not tell lies" 🤣

It's true FFS.😁

[Joe pike]

Of course it was his son.

He didn’t watch the matches or give them his password.

Totally innocent,knew nothing about it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67437534

[The Gee Man]

Should get to keep his job! It obviously means a lot to him if he’s chuckling his son under the bus like that

[NEM]

11 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

Should get to keep his job! It obviously means a lot to him if he’s chuckling his son under the bus like that

Not really a laughing matter though is it?

[For Fecks Sake]

18 minutes ago, NEM said:

Not really a laughing matter though is it?

Check Mr Serious here! 

[The Gee Man]

39 minutes ago, NEM said:

Not really a laughing matter though is it?

The “it wissnae me excuse “

[The Gee Man]

Just now, Bad_Mobby said:

Paid it back FFS

I watch fitba and porn on my work laptop 

Slow news day (for the guffy cunts) 

Paid it back after the press picked it up! I’m sure if you’re work got a 11k bill for your data it would be bye bye for you. 

[Joe pike]

2 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Paid it back FFS

I watch fitba and porn on my work laptop 

Slow news day (for the guffy cunts) 

Paid it back 11 months later after he was caught.

[Joe pike]

1 minute ago, The Gee Man said:

Paid it back after the press picked it up! I’m sure if you’re work got a 11k bill for your data it would be bye bye for you. 

Had to laugh at his previous attempt.

Said he will contribute 3k towards it.

Out of his office expenses.

Still paid for by the taxpayer.

[Parklife]

31 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Check Mr Serious here! 

Read again...

[The Gee Man]

8 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Had to laugh at his previous attempt.

Said he will contribute 3k towards it.

Out of his office expenses.

Still paid for by the taxpayer.

You do worry how much “expenses” don’t really get reported. As this was a parliamentary it expense that doesn’t show up on his expenses claim

[The Gee Man]

1 minute ago, Bad_Mobby said:

I’d pay it back 

11k = pocket fluff 

If only

[Don Fonte]

£11k for 6GB of data is the real scandal.

Robbing whores.

[Joe pike]

9 minutes ago, Don Fonte said:

£11k for 6GB of data is the real scandal.

Robbing whores.

Nah the real scandal is he was watching Tims v Huns on the 2nd Jan and charging it to us.

[Simply Red]

The usual masturbation and mumsnet level hysteria from the usual fucking goons any time an snp cunt makes a booboo. Aye cos the tories they vote for dont rinse the old expenses system for everything its got. 

Take the moral high ground when your team starts behaving. Until then, put yir cocks away. 
 

(the tories/snp/labour - all at it)

 

[Parklife]

32 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Nah the real scandal is he was watching Tims v Huns on the 2nd Jan and charging it to us.

Yer party just appointed an unelected boy, who was previously on the take for £10 million to use his influence to "lobby", as Foreign Secretary. 

Yet here you are, playing the faux-indignant fandan. Pipe doon, Pike.  

[caledonia]

3 hours ago, NEM said:

Not really a laughing matter though is it?

Not killing people either by giving millions to your mates during covid for PPE that was useless and caused deaths

[Don Fonte]

Where's that weegie slut Mone these days?

She not been taken to task?

[caledonia]

1 hour ago, Joe pike said:

Nah the real scandal is he was watching Tims v Huns on the 2nd Jan and charging it to us.

Now that is a fucking disgrace off to the electric chair with the cunt.

[NEM]

3 hours ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Check Mr Serious here! 

 

30 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Not killing people either by giving millions to your mates during covid for PPE that was useless and caused deaths

Woooooosh!

 

 

[Edwin Starr]

There's hope.

 

https://twitter.com/stvnews/status/1729837813506445416?s=46&t=j6fyqM8hSHkC9SqPJ2d02g