Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[Redforever86]

11 hours ago, daytripping said:

Under Barnett we get more back than we put in, Tory government has no say on how Scotland is ran.

No we don't. 

[Simply Red]

4 hours ago, Bad_Mobby said:

the guffs got a boner for jock land 
 

https://x.com/bbcdebatenight/status/1714762087786832371?s=46

He sums it up well. And he’s an English  political economist. Ffs/dayts/etc should watch that. I think they listen more when its an English voice informing them.

[Ramandu]

23 minutes ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

In what way is it a stupid argument, its notable that you don't say?

41% of the electorate is far removed from the picture the SNP paint of EU's popularity in Scotland.

I'm with parkie on this one. It's always poor to quote election results percentages against total electorate rather than those who voted. I can't think of a situation where it would be better than just writing the results.

You can make the same point you were making without that.

[Parklife]

51 minutes ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

In what way is it a stupid argument, its notable that you don't say?

 

Because anyone who tries to misrepresent the results of elections by including people who didn't vote is using the argument of an idiot. 

 

[For Fecks Sake]

11 hours ago, Simply Red said:

And what does Aberdeen have to show for 40years as the biggest O&G terminal in western Europe - not much imo. Money syphoned off to the Central belt over the years. You think the SNP give a fuck about the people of Aberdeen and the city? They never have and never will. They hate us and hold us all in contempt. They must laugh like fuck that folk in the North East still vote for them. 

FIFY

[Simply Red]

3 minutes ago, For Fecks Sake said:

FIFY

Yeah the snp has been syphoning o&g money for 40years😆

What the fuck are you on

[caledonia]

1 hour ago, Simply Red said:

He sums it up well. And he’s an English  political economist. Ffs/dayts/etc should watch that. I think they listen more when its an English voice informing them.

Or the BBC said it so it must be true.

[For Fecks Sake]

50 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

Yeah the snp has been syphoning o&g money for 40years😆

What the fuck are you on

Where did I say they have been syphoning O&G money?

It actually says "Money syphoned off...."

Of course that doesn't fit your narrative so you just make things up.

[Simply Red]

1 minute ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Where did I say they have been syphoning O&G money?

It actually says "Money syphoned off...."

Of course that doesn't fit your narrative so you just make things up.

Ok so youve quoted me and changed wee bits to fit your narrative despite it being factually incorrect. 

Well done👍

[Redforever86]

Considering they were involved in the majority of the funding of the bypass the SNP must have a better financial record in Aberdeen than any other party for a long long time. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

3 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

Considering they were involved in the majority of the funding of the bypass the SNP must have a better financial record in Aberdeen than any other party for a long long time. 

Aberdeen was a far more happier and busier city when Bob Hughes and Frank Doran, followed by Ann Begg, were the Labour MPs for Aberdeen North and Aberdeen South respectively.

[Redforever86]

15 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Aberdeen was a far more happier and busier city when Bob Hughes and Frank Doran, followed by Ann Begg, were the Labour MPs for Aberdeen North and Aberdeen South respectively.

I’m sure it was. I’m sure every other city in the UK was as well. 

[Joe pike]

What happened to Sturgeons Independence Referendum Vote today ?
Has it been cancelled?

[bonzodaddy73]

23 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

What happened to Sturgeons Independence Referendum Vote today ?
Has it been cancelled?

Yes, lack of interest apparently.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

37 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

I’m sure it was. I’m sure every other city in the UK was as well. 

Very true Sir.👍

[Joe pike]

Humza wants Scotland to take in thousands of Palestinians now.

https://en.wenews.pk/scotland-offers-sanctuary-for-palestine-refugees/

Loads of money.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

11 hours ago, Ramandu said:

I'm with parkie on this one. It's always poor to quote election results percentages against total electorate rather than those who voted. I can't think of a situation where it would be better than just writing the results.

You can make the same point you were making without that.

I respect you point of view, but I disagree.

The SNP make a big play of being "dragged out the EU against our will" - but that's not really true.

Only a minority of Scots cared enough about the EU to vote to remain.  And so it wasn't really against our will.

Its really the SNP claim which frames the context, not me.

 

[Clydeside_Sheep]

11 hours ago, Parklife said:

Because anyone who tries to misrepresent the results of elections by including people who didn't vote is using the argument of an idiot. 

 

Hi Parky,

That's still not an argument btw.

But there is no misrepresentation, I put forward an accurate summary of the voting outcome.

The SNP try to make Scotland out to be strongly pro-EU, but that is not true.

That's the accurate point I make.

People who didn't bother to vote in the referendum are relevant, when it comes to gauging how pro-EU Scotland was.

[Don Fonte]

10 minutes ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

I respect you point of view, but I disagree.

The SNP make a big play of being "dragged out the EU against our will" - but that's not really true.

Only a minority of Scots cared enough about the EU to vote to remain.  And so it wasn't really against our will.

Its really the SNP claim which frames the context, not me.

 

What percentage cared enough to vote to leave?

For context.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

6 minutes ago, Don Fonte said:

What percentage cared enough to vote to leave?

For context.

~41% vote to remain

~30% voted to leave

~30% didn't vote either way

Plenty of Scots, including plenty of nationalists, wanted out.

[Don Fonte]

6 minutes ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

~41% vote to remain

~30% voted to leave

~30% didn't vote either way

Plenty of Scots, including plenty of nationalists, wanted out.

So less than a third cared enough to change the status quo.

Okay, thanks.

[caledonia]

25 minutes ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

~41% vote to remain

~30% voted to leave

~30% didn't vote either way

Plenty of Scots, including plenty of nationalists, wanted out.

101% aye ok

[Jigsaw666]

2nd ref is dead in the water for at least a decade.

[Parklife]

8 hours ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

 

But there is no misrepresentation,

Sorry, maybe I was wrong yesterday and you actually are an idiot. 

[Edwin Starr]

On 10/19/2023 at 1:46 PM, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Very true Sir.👍

Where in the world gets its energy stolen from them by another country and the trillions made from it gets wasted. Ending up with a huge dept which has nothing to do with us. 

Criminal.

 

Put it another way what energy do the English government give us anyone know?

 

 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

44 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said:

Where in the world gets its energy stolen from them by another country and the trillions made from it gets wasted. Ending up with a huge dept which has nothing to do with us. 

Criminal.

 

Put it another way what energy do the English government give us anyone know?

 

 

Absolutely fuck all loon. 

The way the money generated and gained by exploration and production of gas and oil in Scottish waters has been misappropriated is obscenely criminal but nobody is ever brought to task over it. 

Too many palms being greased for that to happen(pardon the pun). 

[Edwin Starr]

3 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Absolutely fuck all loon. 

The way the money generated and gained by exploration and production of gas and oil in Scottish waters has been misappropriated is obscenely criminal but nobody is ever brought to task over it. 

Too many palms being greased fir that to happen(pardon the pun). 

What a post MAT.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

1 minute ago, Edwin Starr said:

What a post MAT.

Thanks loon.👍

[Parklife]

16 minutes ago, Edwin Starr said:

What a post MAT.

The heel-turn is that MAD is a massive unionist. 😂

[CCB III]

On 10/19/2023 at 3:55 PM, Joe pike said:

Humza wants Scotland to take in thousands of Palestinians now.

https://en.wenews.pk/scotland-offers-sanctuary-for-palestine-refugees/

Loads of money.

We'll probably end up without water, food and gas if we let them in. 
 

Wait, no we won't. That's what they are fleeing from. 
 

Up the Humza. Went up in my estimations.