fine-n-dandy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 25% win rate in league this season already 1/3 way through season. 13 points from 36 available so far. That is relegation form/stats or play off at best if he continues as is. It’s brutal. We’re relying on hope in ‘law of averages’ that he can improve on it slightly for a ‘safe’ season or maybe ‘top six’ Link to comment
KenDodd'sDad Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: 25% win rate in league this season already 1/3 way through season. 13 points from 36 available so far. That is relegation form/stats or play off at best if he continues as is. It’s brutal. We’re relying on hope in ‘law of averages’ that he can improve on it slightly for a ‘safe’ season or maybe ‘top six’ Surely skewed by the fact we’ve had so many away games and our away form has been shitty for years. Win the games in hand and we’re right back in it ( yes I know we lost to Hibs and drew with St J at home, I was there). Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 hours ago, ERNIE said: Not really..just think he should be given a decent chance.And some on here wanted him replaced with the likes of Mackay or Kettlewell just a month or so ago.. Complete rubbish. Link to comment
Russell Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, KenDodd'sDad said: Surely skewed by the fact we’ve had so many away games and our away form has been shitty for years. Win the games in hand and we’re right back in it ( yes I know we lost to Hibs and drew with St J at home, I was there). And don't forget no more traveling across Europe, more time together on the training ground, new manager bounce 🤞 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 18 hours ago, KenDodd'sDad said: Surely skewed by the fact we’ve had so many away games and our away form has been shitty for years. Win the games in hand and we’re right back in it ( yes I know we lost to Hibs and drew with St J at home, I was there). It’s not skewed by anything other than lack of quality Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 11:53 PM, WesthillWanderersFC said: Complete rubbish. I remember reading that. Just because you might not have said it, doesn't mean dome other plum didn't. Link to comment
Millertime Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I've not said a word against this guy, until now What an absolute abomination of a return it's been He never was much of a technician, but he's even worse now in that regard allied to losing a good bit of his athleticism Captain? Charlatan more like BOOOOOOO Link to comment
Tord31 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Absolutely shite first half. Great attitude second half 1 Link to comment
DandyWarhol Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Absolutely shite first half. Great attitude second half Aye was quite the turnaround from him - he really drove us on in the second half. I suppose the question is why him and most of the others were so poor in the first half. 1 Link to comment
Dons21 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, DandyWarhol said: Aye was quite the turnaround from him - he really drove us on in the second half. I suppose the question is why him and most of the others were so poor in the first half. According to Robson it was the wind. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Dons21 said: According to Robson it was the wind. Dodgy pre match meal? 1 Link to comment
Dons21 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said: Dodgy pre match meal? Would have been a better excuse than the weather. Link to comment
Footballs coming Rome Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 The boy is good at tackling but his distribution is shite. Wins a ball then looks for a foul or loses the ball. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Robson is using him wrong. 1 1 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Do we have a consensus now that Shinnie is done, and in actual fact, was last January when he returned? Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, sooth_stander said: Do we have a consensus now that Shinnie is done, and in actual fact, was last January when he returned? Careful with the revisionism though. We were desperate for on field leadership not least as the off field version had gone south. Also, at that time, no one saw Barron progress the way he seems to have, contract shenanigans not with standing. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, strachanmcgheegoal said: Careful with the revisionism though. We were desperate for on field leadership not least as the off field version had gone south. Also, at that time, no one saw Barron progress the way he seems to have, contract shenanigans not with standing. Revisionism? Are you suggesting I haven’t been consistent regarding Shinnie since Jan? Link to comment
Blantyredon Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Shouting at ref for a 2nd booking when he was blocked around 80 minutes by lunstrome, still well capable at our level Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Revisionism? Are you suggesting I haven’t been consistent regarding Shinnie since Jan? Another 2 & a half years on his contract. Well done Gunner 🤡 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blantyredon said: Shouting at ref for a 2nd booking when he was blocked around 80 minutes by lunstrome, still well capable at our level Well capable of what? Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, Waycross Don said: Nothing personal against the guy whom seems to always give his all. But lets face it he is no longer good enough for our fine club. The fact he could not command a starting place at Wigan in the lower reaches of English third tier should have been the deterent to re-sign him no doubt on crazy terms. Yesterdays man and there is no coming back from todays shocking performance. He to be fair will know this within himself. Totally agree. Why would any Aberdeen fan have anything personal against a guy who has put his heart and soul into the club over many seasons? Time waits for no man. ICT awaits you, Graeme, maybe your true spiritual home. Link to comment
VinegarStrokes Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I think the criticism of Shinnie is well OTT, he's clearly not the same player he was before he left but if used correctly he can still play an important role. Who else was putting their foot in and at least making tackles and breaking up play? I get that's not Clarkson or McGraths game but there's a massive Ramadani shaped hole in the middle of the park and Shinnie is being exposed in the system Robson insists on playing him in. Huge shouts for Polvara to come in and replace him pre match and similarly reading back in the match thread yet Polvara was directly responsible for shiteing out of the tackle that led to Barasic crossing for the goal. If that had been Shinnie he'd be getting crucified. Similarly for all that Hayes is clearly past it, it was only after he went off that Tavernier found that space in the box when McGarry got sucked in to the ball and left him completely free. For me, the issue is the ginger lesbian teuchter in the dugout not Shinnie. 1 1 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, sooth_stander said: Do we have a consensus now that Shinnie is done, and in actual fact, was last January when he returned? I'm not writing Shinnie off yet. For me he's being criminally misused. Shinnie running about a madman is just stupid, he's better than that. Robson is also using Clarkson wrong. That said, and seeing what I've seen over the last few weeks I believe our strongest midfield if we must play the formation we do is Barron, Polvara and McGrath. 2 Link to comment
JamieMT Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, King Street Loon said: I'm not writing Shinnie off yet. For me he's being criminally misused. Shinnie running about a madman is just stupid, he's better than that. Robson is also using Clarkson wrong. That said, and seeing what I've seen over the last few weeks I believe our strongest midfield if we must play the formation we do is Barron, Polvara and McGrath. Criminal misuse of the players at his disposal. That said i wouldn't have Barron anywhere near the starting line up unless he signs a new deal or at worst, inks a pre-contract for a team in another country. If the rumours are true regards him joining the Huns, i'd stick him in the club shop between now and the end of the season. 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: I'm not writing Shinnie off yet. For me he's being criminally misused. Shinnie running about a madman is just stupid, he's better than that. Robson is also using Clarkson wrong. That said, and seeing what I've seen over the last few weeks I believe our strongest midfield if we must play the formation we do is Barron, Polvara and McGrath. Spot on. The players are absolved of blame, it’s clearly the mong in the dugouts doing 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Shinnie has definitely regressed as a player and lost a few yards but Robson is using him totally wrong, there's still a part for him to play though, ideally under a new manager who doesn't have him running about like a clown. 2 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, JamieMT said: Criminal misuse of the players at his disposal. That said i wouldn't have Barron anywhere near the starting line up unless he signs a new deal or at worst, inks a pre-contract for a team in another country. If the rumours are true regards him joining the Huns, i'd stick him in the club shop between now and the end of the season. Can't disagree with the bit in bold. Link to comment
Willo flood Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, JamieMT said: Criminal misuse of the players at his disposal. That said i wouldn't have Barron anywhere near the starting line up unless he signs a new deal or at worst, inks a pre-contract for a team in another country. If the rumours are true regards him joining the Huns, i'd stick him in the club shop between now and the end of the season. If he’s joining one of the ugly sisters he should be hung drawn and quartered. Otherwise he should be one of the first names on the team sheet every week. We’re not exactly in the position where we can get away with not playing our best players just because they haven’t signed a new contract. Link to comment
CrocodileDondee Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, minijc said: Shinnie has definitely regressed as a player and lost a few yards but Robson is using him totally wrong, there's still a part for him to play though, ideally under a new manager who doesn't have him running about like a clown He's been a loyal servant to the club but his game has always (mostly) been about graft. In the SPFL and EFL, that has more than made up for his average technical abilities. The issue is that the ability to graft is underpinned by stamina and 'nippiness', which he appears to have lost. Attempting to graft without the stamina to do so properly has and will continue to expose us against good passing teams with runners. This happened in the 2nd half. He left his man to press Barisic (I think) on the left wing and didn't get any where near close enough to pressure him into a mistake / backwards pass. This left Barisic with a simple pass to the open man who drove into the box. His time in that role is definitely up but I'm left wondering how else he can be used? And if we did use him differently, would he outperform our alternatives? I think our options in midfield are all technically superior. I loved him in his day, but his day has been and gone. Link to comment
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