Graeme Shinnie.....

[Tommy]

34 minutes ago, Medw1311 said:

I hadn't realised this before reading it earlier but his sending off against St Johnstone was the first of his career.

His first yellow in that game was wrong. As captain, he was entitled to have a go when ref never gave a free kick for the foul on Duk. 

[Redtaz2]

Sadly no more than expected 

we should realise this re McKenna ect appeals and decisions that could easily be assessed as corruption 

remember the mcgregor tackle / assault on Ferguson in the box 

[minijc]

1 hour ago, Jigsaw666 said:

You think he's brought nothing to the team?

No, I don't think that.

[sooth_stander]

2 hours ago, Johnnyred1 said:

I wonder if all of this will impact on whether Shinnie signs for us next season and stays down south. He is probably thinking he is a marked man.

He needs to button his mouth though and not get silly bookings because he does give away a lot of fouls with his aggressive style which we love.

If his family have already moved up here then no, it will have fuck all impact on whether he stays in Scotland next season.

Whether that is at Aberdeen is another matter.

[Robin Askwith]

No doubt these SFA c*nts are never independently audited.

Until all other clubs get together and demand that the Masonic Lodge HQ  is moved from Glasgow to say Perth. Then the same horrible b4stards that are in charge there will make up the rules to suit and please themselves regarding decisions and dishing out fines/bans etc.    

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

14 hours ago, G man said:

SFA claim the extra game is because the  appeal was viewed as frivolous with little chance of success!!! Why have an appeal process !! The system gets more corrupt by the day.

A totally subjective appeal system purely based on prejudice and feelings of appeal panel members towards individuals and the clubs they represent.

To arrive at such a decision, testimonies, and photographic and video evidence must be taken into account, apportioned to case law, as if it is not the appeal process is flawed, not fit for purpose, and illegitimate. Any decision made by the appeal panel using this methodology is therefore not sound nor legally-bound.

It is obvious such evidence was not looked at by the appeal panel when it was justifiably and timeously submitted and presented by AFC.

Deeming bona fide evidence as inadmissible before a legal proceeding such as an appeal is aired is unlawful as it is against the principles of due process.

Even if the evidence was allowed to be used, and aired, during the appeal hearing, deeming it inadmissible during the course of proceedings, "a waste of time" (in other words, worthless), or frivolous, without good cause or reason, is a contravention of our law. 

I am delighted to hear our club are taking this further as they have exceptionally good reasons to do so.

[brownie]

3 hours ago, Johnnyred1 said:

I wonder if all of this will impact on whether Shinnie signs for us next season and stays down south. He is probably thinking he is a marked man.

 

This won't have any impact. Maloney wants him back at Wigan though.

[NEM]

6 minutes ago, brownie said:

This won't have any impact. Maloney wants him back at Wigan though.

Wigan can fuck off - can't even pay their players wages each month

[Johnnyred1]

3 minutes ago, brownie said:

This won't have any impact. Maloney wants him back at Wigan though.

Hopefully at this stage in his career he prefers to settle his family down permanently in the North East.

[CCB III]

4 hours ago, TheRedPrawcess said:

A tackle that was originally given as no foul and a throw in has ended up as a 4 match ban. Bloody hell

That's the maddest thing 

 

Inconsistent as well. His reputation as a midfield rat (good thing) has went before the incident here. 
 

Nicky Clark got something similar reversed, mainly I'd imagine because he's a striker and a hun, and wouldn't do anything. 

[Roger Ramjet 62]

2 hours ago, Medw1311 said:

I hadn't realised this before reading it earlier but his sending off against St Johnstone was the first of his career.

Bloody Nora. That's surprising. 

[Durrant Dived]

12 minutes ago, CCB III said:

Nicky Clark got something similar reversed, mainly I'd imagine because he's a striker and a hun, and wouldn't do anything. 

He got it reversed because it was against the huns. The huns had already benefitted from playing wrongly against the 10 men of saints. 

[winchester83]

2 hours ago, DD1903 said:

I never said you said he was an idiot…I said you were an idiot 

I knew that you fuckin idiot  You don’t get it

[redone]

5 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said:

He got it reversed because it was against the huns. The huns had already benefitted from playing wrongly against the 10 men of saints. 

Correct.  And also , in that game within a couple of minutes of Clark getting the red card the Rat committed a foul which most observers thought was as a bad as , if not worse , than the Clark challenge.  Collum was even asked by the VAR to look at it on the video. But (surprise , surprise) this was one of the extremely rare occasions where the ref stuck to his guns and didn’t upgrade the punishment to a straight red despite the VAR’s influence.

So another reason for Clark’s appeal being successful was that the appeal panel would have been seen to be condoning or at least tacitly approving  Collum’s clear and obvious “error” in the different punishment he applied to two similar offences.

Clarks foul is about the 2 minute mark on the video clip

 

 

[Dandyesque]

43 minutes ago, redone said:

Correct.  And also , in that game within a couple of minutes of Clark getting the red card the Rat committed a foul which most observers thought was as a bad as , if not worse , than the Clark challenge.  Collum was even asked by the VAR to look at it on the video. But (surprise , surprise) this was one of the extremely rare occasions where the ref stuck to his guns and didn’t upgrade the punishment to a straight red despite the VAR’s influence.

So another reason for Clark’s appeal being successful was that the appeal panel would have been seen to be condoning or at least tacitly approving  Collum’s clear and obvious “error” in the different punishment he applied to two similar offences.

Clarks foul is about the 2 minute mark on the video clip

 

 

Also never a red. Appeal got it right.

Main difference is it doesn't look like Clarke is aware of the huns presence whereas Shinnie plays the ball the way does because the man is incoming.

 

 

[thurso]

6 hours ago, minijc said:

Looks like bringing him back was a waste of time now that he's going to a miss 4 very important games.

Surely not a waste of time. Ramadani has been learning of him how to be a footballer 

[Roger Ramjet 62]

2 minutes ago, thurso said:

Surely not a waste of time. Ramadani has been learning of him how to be a footballer 

Hardly a waste of time. Without him we wouldn't finish top six never mind well clear in third. 

[minijc]

6 minutes ago, thurso said:

Surely not a waste of time. Ramadani has been learning of him how to be a footballer 

Good one.

[redone]

On 4/17/2023 at 10:29 PM, Ten Caat said:

If his appeal was refused the only "extra" punishment is on the club who forfeit the appeal fee. No additional matches on the player beyond the 2 it will be for being his 2nd red of the season

Thank fuck we had you on the case

[DD1903]

On 4/18/2023 at 10:42 AM, winchester83 said:

I never said he was an idiot 

Poultice

 

4 hours ago, DD1903 said:

I never said you said he was an idiot…I said you were an idiot 

 

2 hours ago, winchester83 said:

I knew that you fuckin idiot  You don’t get it

Lolz

 

idiot

[winchester83]

18 minutes ago, DD1903 said:

 

 

Lolz

 

idiot

toidi

[Ernie McCracken]

I see the PFA have thrown their weight behind Shinnie.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

10 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said:

I see the PFA have thrown their weight behind Shinnie.

Beat me to it.

https://pfascotland.co.uk/pfa-scotland-statement-on-graeme-shinnie-appeal/

[fine-n-dandy]

6 hours ago, Broken_Glass said:

I love how the BBC article has to include Stuart Dougal saying it's a red card all day long and anyone who disagrees has to "move with the times".

Corrupt as the SFA

He seems to say that every fkn week.

Thats his current ‘woke’ saying with every questioned VAR call.

 

he’s a complete bellend. Only ever sides with officials. He’s a completely pointless person to give opinions on VAR’s because he NEVER questions their calls

[aberdeen1970]

Well done by the pfa 

Next step if the extra match isn't rescinded should be a ballot of players to go  on strike supported by the clubs and fan groups. 

 

[The Gee Man]

News pointing out Porteuse at Hibs had ban extended. No Sevco or Tic example tho! What a surprise, sfa is corrupt as anything 

[BaaBaaRedSheep]

7 hours ago, Broken_Glass said:

I love how the BBC article has to include Stuart Dougal saying it's a red card all day long and anyone who disagrees has to "move with the times".

Corrupt as the SFA

I've reviewed the article and have concluded that Dougal is a hun cunt all day long and anyone who disagrees can get to fuck. 

[Daisy1903]

Brilliant from the PFA, fucking embarras that lot into some action.

Also, given the appeals panel is made up of referees and an unknown ex player, it's hardly independent.

The fee for appealing should be removed and if the appeals panel stick with the original decision then the option of paying for an independent appeal should be given.

Wouldn't be hard to get 3 members of an FA someplace else to review 30 seconds of footage 2 or 3 times a month. If the appeal is upheld the club pays for it, if it's overturned then the SFA should be made to pay.

This way the fee then becomes an incentive for the SFA to get it right first time instead of discouraging players/clubs from appealing what is right.

[Helmet]

Was it a red card or not is probably debatable.

Much less debatable imo is that if Shinnie was playing for the Huns he just wouldn't have been sent off in the first place and at the very least if he had they'd win their appeal no question.

And absolutely no way whatsoever the SFA would give a Rangers player an extra game ban for appealing something like this. Not a fucking chance.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

41 minutes ago, BaaBaaRedSheep said:

I've reviewed the article and have concluded that Dougal is a hun cunt all day long and anyone who disagrees can get to fuck. 

He IS a known hun & a hun season ticket holder 

For THAT alone, he can stop drawing breath. 

Hun cunt