Schapenneuker Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Sadly for Ferguson, both McGinn and McGregor do the same job for Scotland (more or less) that Lewis does for Bologna. And they do it very well, in general....although McGinn has went off the boil and we don't know how long McGregor will take to get back to full fitness. So Ferguson will just have to wait his turn. You can't compare Ferguson with Gilmour, who seems to be confined to playing in the centre circle by Clarke. Which was an utter waste of time against Northern Ireland. Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 32 minutes ago, CCB III said: I'd say so Well unsurprisingly I'd disagree and when you take into consideration how well Lewis reads and anticipates the game, his vision and overall ability he's streets ahead of Dykes. Link to comment
thurso Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 31 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said: Sadly for Ferguson, both McGinn and McGregor do the same job for Scotland (more or less) that Lewis does for Bologna. And they do it very well, in general....although McGinn has went off the boil and we don't know how long McGregor will take to get back to full fitness. So Ferguson will just have to wait his turn. You can't compare Ferguson with Gilmour, who seems to be confined to playing in the centre circle by Clarke. Which was an utter waste of time against Northern Ireland. Ferguson is better than McGinn so he should play instead of him !!!! 1 1 Link to comment
YorkDon Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, thurso said: Ferguson is better than McGinn so he should play instead of him !!!! McGinn’s goal scoring record for Scotland is very good though, and as yet Lewis is untried really at international level. Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 44 minutes ago, thurso said: Ferguson is better than McGinn so he should play instead of him !!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJHAHA. 1 Link to comment
CCB III Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Broken_Glass said: Well unsurprisingly I'd disagree and when you take into consideration how well Lewis reads and anticipates the game, his vision and overall ability he's streets ahead of Dykes. Yeah. I said he's not as quick. Link to comment
pocrawred Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Russell said: But he did leave them for fuck all. Never forget that they made more money from us selling McCrorie to Bristol City than they did with Gilmour, Morales and Kent combined. I've read that Chelsea gave the huns over a million quid for gilmore!! I mean, why would they when they only needed to pay a training fee?? Link to comment
Granite95 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 9 minutes ago, pocrawred said: I've read that Chelsea gave the huns over a million quid for gilmore!! I mean, why would they when they only needed to pay a training fee?? Think that was a sell-on clause They sold for him £500k + add-ons, rather than the training fee Think we did something similar with lewis Pirie (sell him and get add-ons, rather than training fee) Link to comment
thurso Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 53 minutes ago, YorkDon said: McGinn’s goal scoring record for Scotland is very good though, and as yet Lewis is untried really at international level. Most of McGinn’s goals I think most players would have scored and Ferguson is untried but all players are until you give them a run of games. Give Ferguson a few starts and I don’t think he would be dropped as it would be seen how good he was 1 Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, thurso said: Most of McGinn’s goals I think most players would have scored Fucking hell. 5 2 Link to comment
YorkDon Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, thurso said: Most of McGinn’s goals I think most players would have scored and Ferguson is untried but all players are until you give them a run of games. Give Ferguson a few starts and I don’t think he would be dropped as it would be seen how good he was He should’ve started the Norn Irn game, and had more minutes for sure, however McGinn scores something like 1 in 3 at international level I think, so you can’t drop him really. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 45 minutes ago, thurso said: Most of McGinn’s goals I think most players would have scored and Ferguson is untried but all players are until you give them a run of games. Give Ferguson a few starts and I don’t think he would be dropped as it would be seen how good he was Oh just shut up, ferguson better than mcginn, most players would have scored his goals?, how about mcginn overhead kick vs Austria?, most folk score that aye?. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, Dons79 said: Oh just shut up, ferguson better than mcginn, most players would have scored his goals?, how about mcginn overhead kick vs Austria?, most folk score that aye?. Ferguson did it first at Burnley 4 1 Link to comment
Dons79 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: Ferguson did it first at Burnley Of course ferguson could do it, on his first ever European game, class, but he said most players would have scored mcginn’s goals, which is utter tripe. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 13 minutes ago, Dons79 said: Of course ferguson could do it, on his first ever European game, class, but he said most players would have scored mcginn’s goals, which is utter tripe. Haha I know. I was just being pedantic. 1 Link to comment
thurso Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 5 hours ago, YorkDon said: He should’ve started the Norn Irn game, and had more minutes for sure, however McGinn scores something like 1 in 3 at international level I think, so you can’t drop him really. Hes scored in 14 games out of 64 I think so not quite 1 in 3 and he hasn’t exactly been scoring regularly for Scotland lately mcctominay was the go to guy in the last campaign to score. 5 hours ago, Dons79 said: Oh just shut up, ferguson better than mcginn, most players would have scored his goals?, how about mcginn overhead kick vs Austria?, most folk score that aye?. Was his best goal but seen many players score them even Ferguson. Most of mcginns goals have been against the poorer teams in the group that if other players had been playing would have still score. If Ferguson is going to get into the team for me it’s ahead of mcginn as he’s the worst out of the 4 regular starters Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 There is no way Calum Mcgregor is better that John Mcginn 😂 Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 hours ago, thurso said: Hes scored in 14 games out of 64 I think so not quite 1 in 3 and he hasn’t exactly been scoring regularly for Scotland lately mcctominay was the go to guy in the last campaign to score. Was his best goal but seen many players score them even Ferguson. Most of mcginns goals have been against the poorer teams in the group that if other players had been playing would have still score. If Ferguson is going to get into the team for me it’s ahead of mcginn as he’s the worst out of the 4 regular starters I admire your willingness to continue to argue your point, no matter how stupid it is. 1 1 Link to comment
Rubinho Escocia Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I’d have Ferguson starting over Callum McGregor but think Gilmour will play ahead of both. Ferguson’s role this summer will be from the bench but once he gets a run in the team I think he’ll stay in it. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Unfortunately he’ll be one of those that he’ll most likely come in for a player that gets injured. Most likely McGinn. Essentially the job Kenny Macleans been doing. Link to comment
thurso Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 14 hours ago, Reed or deed said: There is no way Calum Mcgregor is better that John Mcginn 😂 Yes he is. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 21 minutes ago, thurso said: Yes he is. You really think McGregor would be a regular starter for a top half EPL side (never mind being captain of that team)? He might be able to be a starter at Burnley or Forest. But I'm not convinced that he'd be anything other than a squad player at any of the teams from Everton upwards. And I just don't think any of the top 10 sides down there would be interested in him at all. Unfortunately for Ferguson, McGinn in the Scotland side seems to be the player that he's in direct competition for a place with. Now if Ferguson does join Juventus (or an equivalently big team in England, Spain, France or Germany) and continues to do well there he might well have a genuine case to really challenge McGinn for that starting spot. But for the time being he's a sub under normal circumstances. Link to comment
Dandys1983 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 McGregor should have moved to England years ago, he's a good player and does his role very well, Ange wanted him at Spurs (fact) but he said he wanted to see out his days at Celtic. Link to comment
dave_min Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 McGregor is a very classy player, let himself down by staying in Scotland so long. 2 Link to comment
a don in oz Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, dave_min said: McGregor is a very classy player, let himself down by staying in Scotland so long. Watch out.... you'll be hassled for that by you-know-who. Link to comment
thurso Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Ten Caat said: You really think McGregor would be a regular starter for a top half EPL side (never mind being captain of that team)? He might be able to be a starter at Burnley or Forest. But I'm not convinced that he'd be anything other than a squad player at any of the teams from Everton upwards. And I just don't think any of the top 10 sides down there would be interested in him at all. Unfortunately for Ferguson, McGinn in the Scotland side seems to be the player that he's in direct competition for a place with. Now if Ferguson does join Juventus (or an equivalently big team in England, Spain, France or Germany) and continues to do well there he might well have a genuine case to really challenge McGinn for that starting spot. But for the time being he's a sub under normal circumstances. Yes I do think McGregor would be a starter in a side in the top half of the league down there. He is as good as mctominay, Gilmore and McGinn and they are all regular starters down there ( mctominay might not be as regular a starters as the others but games Iv seen of man united he is still one of there best players). If he had left Celtic and gone to spurs I think he would have started most games for them. But we will never find out as he chose to stay in Scotland Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Just play Ferguson instead of the abject shite that is Dykes or Adams, problem solved. Link to comment
Parklife Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: Just play Ferguson instead of the abject shite that is Dykes or Adams, problem solved. No. Link to comment
dave_min Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Redforever86 said: Just play Ferguson instead of the abject shite that is Dykes or Adams, problem solved. I’d pick him ahead of Kelly or Zander tbh Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 9 hours ago, thurso said: Yes he is. Utter bull poop. Link to comment
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