RAZOR Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It baffles me that McInnes seems to prefer Ball over Gleeson. Gleeson has looked okay in the short periods he's played. Offers more to the team than Ball IMO. It baffles me why you are still so critical of Ball. He's been really effective this season, actually one of our better performers. We've far bigger problems than Ball. Link to comment
Jimmy Grimble Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It baffles me that McInnes seems to prefer Ball over Gleeson. Gleeson has looked okay in the short periods he's played. Offers more to the team than Ball IMO.Its why we are resorting to hoofball in a lot of games. McLean was the guy who take the ball off our defence last year and start moves off, before that it was the snake, now we have nobody unless ferguson drops deeper. But when he drops deeper then we are a man light in the middle of the pitch cause we play an extra striker or attacking midfield who don't track back so we end up being over run in the middle of the park. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It baffles me that McInnes seems to prefer Ball over Gleeson. Gleeson has looked okay in the short periods he's played. Offers more to the team than Ball IMO.Ball has been good this season, one of our better performers. Gleason has offered nothing when he has played. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Ferguson reminds me of when Fyvie first came on the scene but I would say Ferguson looks a better prospect. We really need to make sure we hang on to this boy. Link to comment
robbojunior Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've been told we're signing an 18 year old attacking midfielder in Jan. Going by what I know about him, I'm guessing he's not intended for the reserves rather than straight into first team but who knows, maybe Derek finally is ready to put faith in the youth. Link to comment
boboisared Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It baffles me why you are still so critical of Ball. He's been really effective this season, actually one of our better performers. We've far bigger problems than Ball.The only gripe I have with Ball is that he'll randomly try and 60 yard pass out of nowhere and it doesn't look like he has it in his locker. Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It baffles me why you are still so critical of Ball. He's been really effective this season, actually one of our better performers. We've far bigger problems than Ball.I didn't realise saying i'd rather see Gleeson given a chance equated to being "so critical". To me, Ball as a central midfielder is part of the reason we have no midfield. He's not capable of linking the play between our defence and our attack. He doesn't give Devlin/McKenna options for a pass when they have possession and when he does take the ball off them, is incapable of playing the passes in to feet of those further forward. I'm not saying he's a bad player but, IMO, him and Shinnie as a pair don't work. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've been told we're signing an 18 year old attacking midfielder in Jan. Going by what I know about him, I'm guessing he's not intended for the reserves rather than straight into first team but who knows, maybe Derek finally is ready to put faith in the youth. Born post 2000? FML 2 Link to comment
boboisared Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've been told we're signing an 18 year old attacking midfielder in Jan. Going by what I know about him, I'm guessing he's not intended for the reserves rather than straight into first team but who knows, maybe Derek finally is ready to put faith in the youth.Any clue? Not a done deal? Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've been told we're signing an 18 year old attacking midfielder in Jan. Going by what I know about him, I'm guessing he's not intended for the reserves rather than straight into first team but who knows, maybe Derek finally is ready to put faith in the youth.Is it Phil Foden...? Link to comment
boboisared Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Is it Phil Foden...?Saw something online the other day that a couple of German teams are looking at Foden and can get him for around £250k. We can't compete with that level of club wages wise but it does worry me that the tims may do another Dembele. Link to comment
True_Don Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Ferguson should develop into a good attacking CM, arriving late into the box, smashing goals in, he's got the shooting and physical ability...but it needs 2 strong CM behind him to allow him to play that role and we don't have that so he will be serving his time learning a more deep lying role for now until McInnes can get his team right. Link to comment
robbojunior Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Born post 2000? FML I know... fucking depressing Any clue? Not a done deal? According to the loon's ma it is. He's currently in the reserves of a team that are doing very poorly, hence I assume he's one for the future rather than a Fergie Mk II but who knows. Is it Phil Foden...? No, he's couldn't deal with the expectation of signing for a big club like us. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Agreed. I’ve no issue with Shinnie, Ball or Ferguson. It’s the playing them together (and lets be honest it’s to do with height at set pieces, fuck all to do with midfield) that I have the issue with. And playing the three of them and simply telling one of them to push up isn’t good enough. Especially if the consequence is playing one up top. Credit to Shinnie for his efforts at getting forward though. But we could do better Shirley? Gleasons been tidy enough for me. But a midfielder who can only last 75 minutes is a concern. Link to comment
boboisared Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I know... fucking depressing According to the loon's ma it is. He's currently in the reserves of a team that are doing very poorly, hence I assume he's one for the future rather than a Fergie Mk II but who knows. No, he's couldn't deal with the expectation of signing for a big club like us. Link to comment
Jimmy Grimble Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I didn't realise saying i'd rather see Gleeson given a chance equated to being "so critical". To me, Ball as a central midfielder is part of the reason we have no midfield. He's not capable of linking the play between our defence and our attack. He doesn't give Devlin/McKenna options for a pass when they have possession and when he does take the ball off them, is incapable of playing the passes in to feet of those further forward. I'm not saying he's a bad player but, IMO, him and Shinnie as a pair don't work. I agree with this but you could easily replace the concerns re Ball with Shinnie. Neither are capable of linking the play. I also agree that they don't work together as we resort to hoofball. When push comes to shove we really miss McLean he's a galring hole in our midfield. None of this is Ball's fault though. But we are absolutely crying out for someone to take the ball off our defence and to start attacks. Ferguson seems at least capable of doing that role but moving him back means we have Wright or May behind the striker and neither of them help our midfield that ends up being outnumbered, also partly to do with Shinnie's headless chicken act. Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I agree with this but you could easily replace the concerns re Ball with Shinnie. Neither are capable of linking the play. I also agree that they don't work together as we resort to hoofball. When push comes to shove we really miss McLean he's a galring hole in our midfield. None of this is Ball's fault though. But we are absolutely crying out for someone to take the ball off our defence and to start attacks. Ferguson seems at least capable of doing that role but moving him back means we have Wright or May behind the striker and neither of them help our midfield that ends up being outnumbered, also partly to do with Shinnie's headless chicken act.Yeah, agree with all of that. I do think at least Shinnie is capable of carrying the ball and getting us up the pitch from time to time. I don't think they work together and overall i think Shinnie brings more to the table than Ball. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Well let’s buy him then... Link to comment
boboisared Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Eh? Loan fee take it?No his contract. Think he would be a daft amount to go to another English team. Cross border etc he'll go for relative peanuts. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6339365/Borussia-Dortmund-snatch-Manchester-City-youngster-Phil-Foden-just-175-000.html Link to comment
RUL Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Thought he had a very good game Friday night, he's got a great physical edge to his game. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Thought he had a very good game Friday night, he's got a great physical edge to his game.Amazing when you look at him and McKenna then to Scott Shite and Frank Dross in a physical sense. Laddies to need to hit the weights (not as much as that season Considine rocked up looking like Eddie Hall) 3 Link to comment
RUL Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Amazing when you look at him and McKenna then to Scott Shite and Frank Dross in a physical sense. Laddies to need to hit the weights (not as much as that season Considine rocked up looking like Eddie Hall) Yeah, he looks a lot stronger physically and I suppose that's why he's in the team every week. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 McLennan has the physique to come in and make an impact. 1 Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The Niall McGinn diet should be recommended to any lightweights. Chips and cheese. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 chips, cheese and socks on Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The Niall McGinn diet should be recommended to any lightweights. Chips and cheese. KImchi got Niall the way he is I'd guess Link to comment
Dr_Manhattan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 KImchi got Niall the way he is I'd guess Or deep fried Labrador Link to comment
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