Match Thread (League Cup) Dundee 1 - 2 Aberdeen

[Shinniesta]

dont buy this players taking time to settle in the sevco have signed umpteen new players and have it the ground running

To be fair the odds of Sevco's new players hitting the ground running are always going to be higher as they are able to sign better quality players than we can afford.

 

Hearts hit the ground running last season and were 13 points ahead of us in October yet they ended up finishing 16 points behind us.

 

We've been poor in recent games but I think it's a bit too early to be losing our shit. But no doubt we need to improve and I'm confident we will.

[Just Dandy]

industrial strength eye bleeding pish but into next round..

 

Is putting it mildly.

 

I've had more sophisticated entertainment carving Japanese swear words in my left arm while bammed up on Ketamine and Temazapam in the Bay Marina at Peterheid.

[aberdeen1970]

If you're having to integrate 8 or 9 players into the squad it'll never be that easy, it takes time to gel and until we do you'll always get polar opposites performance wise. What do you suggest to make us more prepared? They can't start back any earlier than they do already

The players are more than ready.

 

The manager is to blame ultimately.

 

He's made us predictable. He's over cautious and inhibits the players. Some of the signings aren't of the requisite quality.

[DalgetyBayDon]

how is stevie g managing it then ?

 

They've had a few off performances as well, Progres and Killie away, neither performance was anything special. 

[barassie_afc]

how we going to improve the formation is predictable and teams can work that out, i think mckenna situation its toxic and his performance level has dropped dramatically

[Dr_Manhattan]

The players are more than ready.

 

The manager is to blame ultimately.

 

He's made us predictable. He's over cautious and inhibits the players. Some of the signings aren't of the requisite quality.

 

This. Ojo is a step down from both the snake and Shinnie. Gallacher's a fucking headless chicken. Hedges looks good when he's given space but we all know that isn't going to happen in the SPL. Jury's out on Wilson. I've no idea why he doesn't start him.

 

We badly missed Ferguson today. 

[barassie_afc]

how we going to improve the formation is predictable and teams can work that out, i think mckenna situation its toxic and his performance level has dropped dramatically

[Reed or deed]

So much negativity.

 

We had a shot on goal.

Should be a cause for celebration.

[aberdeen1970]

how we going to improve the formation is predictable and teams can work that out, i think mckenna situation its toxic and his performance level has dropped dramatically

Ideally we would sell McKenna now and use some of the fee to improve a few areas of the team.

 

Unfortunately the English window is now closed. Doesn't seem to be any interest from overseas. So Celtic are the only likely destination this window. They'll lowball us so the club will likely try and manage the McKenna situation til January

 

Also, we're out of Europe so the budget is unlikely to be increased.

 

 

I think we'll see a couple of loans out and a couple of loans in before the window closes

[Big Hat Logan]

dont buy this players taking time to settle in the sevco have signed umpteen new players and have it the ground running

They’ve had a few dodgy performances. Plus they’ve signed better players than we have.

 

Some people need to get over the sevco obsession.

[aberdeen1970]

how we going to improve the formation is predictable and teams can work that out, i think mckenna situation its toxic and his performance level has dropped dramatically

Can't help you with the formation though. He's clearly not going to change that now.

 

He tried 3 at the back a couple of times before and it backfired spectacularly. I think he's scared to change now.

 

Best we can hope for is that he loans someone in who clicks in the position behind the striker, similar to Christie did.

[Big Hat Logan]

To be fair the odds of Sevco's new players hitting the ground running are always going to be higher as they are able to sign better quality players than we can afford.

 

Hearts hit the ground running last season and were 13 points ahead of us in October yet they ended up finishing 16 points behind us.

 

We've been poor in recent games but I think it's a bit too early to be losing our shit. But no doubt we need to improve and I'm confident we will.

Exactly this.

[barassie_afc]

no its critical thinking, so basically our players arent good enough nor is the coaching to integrate them properly into the team..  seems to be an open book of excuses for Mcinnes, we had lethargy last week, what next epstein ?

[shut up meg]

16 pages and nobody has commented on the predictable draw, OF get the last 2 lower league teams.

[Big Hat Logan]

Can't help you with the formation though. He's clearly not going to change that now.

 

He tried 3 at the back a couple of times before and it backfired spectacularly. I think he's scared to change now.

 

Best we can hope for is that he loans someone in who clicks in the position behind the striker, similar to Christie did.

At least until he’s confident the new signings can play a different way or what system gets the best out of them.

[aberdeen1970]

Aye let's just wait until we're out of Europe, out of the league Cup and mid table in the league before we worry about whether the team is going to be good enough because its early in the season and we need to lay off them and give them a chance to gel.

[Big Hat Logan]

no its critical thinking, so basically our players arent good enough nor is the coaching to integrate them properly into the team.. seems to be an open book of excuses for Mcinnes, we had lethargy last week, what next epstein ?

Might as well just chuck it then m8, what’s the point?

[barassie_afc]

At least until he’s confident the new signings can play a different way or what system gets the best out of them.

 

surely he  would have known that prior to signing due to the excellent scouting set up we have ( fm database)

[aberdeen1970]

At least until he’s confident the new signings can play a different way or what system gets the best out of them.

I'd be shocked if he changed the system.

 

And so would you, if you're honest

[barassie_afc]

Might as well just chuck it then m8, what’s the point?

 

where is the line then  ? 6th place mid october ? scramble for top 6 place ? finish 4th behind killie etc  ? score 20-30 less goals than previous previous seasons, declining quality of football year on year...

[Reed or deed]

Hard to believe that some fans can be optimistic considering the 1 up front hoofball performances we have produced in recent games.

 

Dont think there would be the level of criticism, anger and despair if we were set up to attack. Fucking attack you bastards!

[Big Hat Logan]

where is the line then ? 6th place mid october ? scramble for top 6 place ? finish 4th behind killie etc ? score 20-30 less goals than previous previous seasons, declining quality of football year on year...

You’re right mate, we should just give up supporting the dons just in case things get difficult for us.

 

Fucking snowflake.

[Big Hat Logan]

Aye let's just wait until we're out of Europe, out of the league Cup and mid table in the league before we worry about whether the team is going to be good enough because its early in the season and we need to lay off them and give them a chance to gel.

Worry away then, piss your pants every minute of the day about it if makes you feel better.

[Ten Caat]

 McKenna quite obviously wants to be elsewhere. It's too much of a coincidence that after a couple of very good performances against (an admittedly shite) Chikhura and (a not as bad as some make out) Hearts that we have suddenly turned to dogshit.

 

England is out as an option for him to go to for 6 months. I'd say it's unlikely a European team will be bidding for him any time soon. So if the Dhim's come in do we sell? Sadly I think we have to. But only for a straight cash deal. No Hendry and/or Hayes thrown in as makeweights. And only for £5million. If they don't bid that much then punt him into the reserves for a few weeks. Vyner supposedly prefers central defence.....he wasn't great at right back against S'murn but only Ferguson and Consi got pass marks in that game. 

 

If we do get the right deal then we need a proper right back to replace Logan. And a decent centre half obviously....Kerr at St J seems to be most fans' choice. Those 2 might cost around £750k or so. I'd hope Wiggy pushes the boat out and lets us get in a proper number 10. McGinn is just too inconsistent these days. Should still leave the thick end of £4million to kickstart the funding for the new stadium.

[Tord31]

take the three points and move on

[The Boofon]

Up yours @@BrianFaePerth you stinky cunt.

[minijc]

Up yours @@BrianFaePerth you stinky cunt.

With him being from Perth surely he'd hate Dundee?

[maryhilldon]

16 pages and nobody has commented on the predictable draw, OF get the last 2 lower league teams.

1 lower league team.

[Kiriakov33]

McKenna quite obviously wants to be elsewhere. It's too much of a coincidence that after a couple of very good performances against (an admittedly shite) Chikhura and (a not as bad as some make out) Hearts that we have suddenly turned to dogshit.

 

England is out as an option for him to go to for 6 months. I'd say it's unlikely a European team will be bidding for him any time soon. So if the Dhim's come in do we sell? Sadly I think we have to. But only for a straight cash deal. No Hendry and/or Hayes thrown in as makeweights. And only for £5million. If they don't bid that much then punt him into the reserves for a few weeks. Vyner supposedly prefers central defence.....he wasn't great at right back against S'murn but only Ferguson and Consi got pass marks in that game.

 

If we do get the right deal then we need a proper right back to replace Logan. And a decent centre half obviously....Kerr at St J seems to be most fans' choice. Those 2 might cost around £750k or so. I'd hope Wiggy pushes the boat out and lets us get in a proper number 10. McGinn is just too inconsistent these days. Should still leave the thick end of £4million to kickstart the funding for the new stadium.

Not a chance that Celtic will offer 5million for McKenna. 1.5 absolute max with maybe Hayes. And you know what , I would be tempted to take it...

[barassie_afc]

You’re right mate, we should just give up supporting the dons just in case things get difficult for us.

 

Fucking snowflake.

 

Aha playing the man not the argument, then address the following points from a concerned snowflake

 

 

1) 20-30 goal scoring reduction in previous 2 seasons which is combined with a decline in the quality of football, why  ?

 

2)  Mcinnes signings in last few seasons have been largely very poor, why is this ?

 

3) European performances have largely been below par, why is this ? We should have qualified for group stages at least once in my opinion

 

4) Are we on a downward trajectory ? If so why ?

 

Why do we accept mediocrity  ?