aberdeen1970 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 If we lose Ramsay this early it will be a bit of a body blow. He's one of the few shining lights so far that gives you hope that we could build something. Link to comment
AndrewC Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 A Brentford scout was saying some very positive things about Ramsey the other day. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 hours ago, AndrewC said: A Brentford scout was saying some very positive things about Ramsey the other day. Anyone that’s watched him this season would find very little bad to say about him, if at all. Especially with such little experience. The lad is immense. The way he drives forward & consistency of his balls into box (open play or set pieces) are unreal for such a young player at Aberdeen. Cannot remember last time we had someone so consistent at that. Especially that young/inexperienced. Seriously cannot be underestimated just how good/much potential this lad has. He is already miles ahead of ‘the great Patterson’ ? in this respect. Even if his defensive side takes time (no surprise if that happens given the shite around him) then he can be used on RW instead of pish like MacLennan. I genuinely think Ramsay is the biggest player to ever come through our youth system. Eclipsing the likes of Jess even. If we lose him on cheap/too early I will be devastated & current board will be under protection watch. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Millertime said: Yep Name one who has went on to better things since us deciding he wasn't good enough Anderson MAYBE, but early days Exactly correct. If they were any use they’d have ended up in Glasgow or in the bigger leagues down south Link to comment
NEM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Anyone that’s watched him this season would find very little bad to say about him, if at all. Especially with such little experience. The lad is immense. The way he drives forward & consistency of his balls into box (open play or set pieces) are unreal for such a young player at Aberdeen. Cannot remember last time we had someone so consistent at that. Especially that young/inexperienced. Seriously cannot be underestimated just how good/much potential this lad has. He is already miles ahead of ‘the great Patterson’ ? in this respect. Even if his defensive side takes time (no surprise if that happens given the shite around him) then he can be used on RW instead of pish like MacLennan. I genuinely think Ramsay is the biggest player to ever come through our youth system. Eclipsing the likes of Jess even. If we lose him on cheap/too early I will be devastated & current board will be under protection watch. Steady on 1 Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: I genuinely think Ramsay is the biggest player to ever come through our youth system. Eclipsing the likes of Jess even. If we lose him on cheap/too early I will be devastated & current board will be under protection watch. Jess (my favourite Dons player ever) never really fulfilled his career potential - he should have become a top international player and been a star in the EPL or similar. you could argue that Ryan Fraser has risen higher than Jess ever did. based on that metric Ramsay could go higher still - he has similar potential. I still think Jess was the best we’ve ever produced ability wise though. 1 Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Mark McGhee gave Nicky Low his debut, nae Mcinnes. Low played under McGhee, Brown then Mcinnes so wasnt really Mcinnes that gave him his chance. Link to comment
Zeus Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said: Jess (my favourite Dons player ever) never really fulfilled his career potential - he should have become a top international player and been a star in the EPL or similar. you could argue that Ryan Fraser has risen higher than Jess ever did. based on that metric Ramsay could go higher still - he has similar potential. I still think Jess was the best we’ve ever produced ability wise though. That Clydebank wanker didn't help Jess's career. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said: Jess (my favourite Dons player ever) never really fulfilled his career potential - he should have become a top international player and been a star in the EPL or similar. you could argue that Ryan Fraser has risen higher than Jess ever did. based on that metric Ramsay could go higher still - he has similar potential. I still think Jess was the best we’ve ever produced ability wise though. I think that the likes of Leighton, mcleish, miller, Black, are up there too Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: I think that the likes of Leighton, mcleish, miller, Black, are up there too Probably true - I’m slightly too young for the early 80s crop. First Dons teams I remember watching were about 1990 when likes of Jess and Booth were breaking through - so i was just citing examples from my memory. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I liked Nicky Low, thought he was a decent wee player. He just wasn't quite good enough to make the step up in level to be a regular at Pittodrie. We shouldn't be entertaining ANY bid for Ramsey unless it's upwards of £5M. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, ericblack4boss said: I think that the likes of Leighton, mcleish, miller, Black, are up there too Martin Buchan Link to comment
Chester Don Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 £8m and 20% sell on minimum. Absolute star in the making, Tierney levels. everyone can see that. Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Anyone asked the boy his opinion on all this? Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Bournemouth Gee said: Anyone asked the boy his opinion on all this? Boy, would you like to stay at Aberdeen for a few hundred quid a week, or sign for an EPL team for £10k + a week? no idea if hes an Aberdeen fan or not, but will make no difference when the figures are put in front of him. Link to comment
redone Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 5:32 PM, Millertime said: Yep Name one who has went on to better things since us deciding he wasn't good enough Anderson MAYBE, but early days Shankland went on to become a Scotland international......no mean feat in the face of competition from the likes of Ollie McBurnie and Ollie Burke Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, redone said: Shankland went on to become a Scotland international......no mean feat in the face of competition from the likes of Ollie McBurnie and Ollie Burke Unsure of your angle here! Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, redone said: Shankland went on to become a Scotland international......no mean feat in the face of competition from the likes of Ollie McBurnie and Ollie Burke Can't get a game for the team miles bottom of the Belgian League. Utd getting 600k for him is up there with the 2mil we got for Cosgrove. Pair of useless cunts. Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Don_Corleone said: Boy, would you like to stay at Aberdeen for a few hundred quid a week, or sign for an EPL team for £10k + a week? no idea if hes an Aberdeen fan or not, but will make no difference when the figures are put in front of him. He may want to stay in his home city for a while longer with his family and friends playing regularly. Still learning the game and every chance of an international call up as well. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bournemouth Gee said: He may want to stay in his home city for a while longer with his family and friends playing regularly. Still learning the game and every chance of an international call up as well. If he's offered the chance to sign for Everton (or any club in the EPL) you can be sure he's not hanging around. As for the international call up.......for sure if he's playing in England. But while he's with us, nope not happening for at least another 12-18 months, unless we have a massive injury crisis wiping out Patterson, O'Donnell and McGinn. Even though I don't rate him anywhere near as highly, I'm certain Clarke would pick Ralston ahead of him right now too. U21 internationals will have to suffice for Ramsay and tbh that's no bad thing......getting fired into the full Scotland side too early could result in him getting a roasting and knocking his confidence to pot, Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I accept that footballers often take the big bucks when they're first on the table and understand the risk:reward from a financial perspective. But in terms of the slightly longer game timing is everything in football. And the timing is wrong for him to go and join a big English club where he could get lost in their bloated squad system. You've got to be pretty good as a youngster to get straight into the team at a top eight English Premier league club He's better at the moment to get his wages here bumped up in the short term to senior first team level and negotiate himself an exit clause whilst racking up some first team appearances at a decent level. If he goes down south with 100 first team games under his belt at 20 he'll be taken more seriously by the buying club as a first team player 1 Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 52 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: If he's offered the chance to sign for Everton (or any club in the EPL) you can be sure he's not hanging around. As for the international call up.......for sure if he's playing in England. But while he's with us, nope not happening for at least another 12-18 months, unless we have a massive injury crisis wiping out Patterson, O'Donnell and McGinn. Even though I don't rate him anywhere near as highly, I'm certain Clarke would pick Ralston ahead of him right now too. U21 internationals will have to suffice for Ramsay and tbh that's no bad thing......getting fired into the full Scotland side too early could result in him getting a roasting and knocking his confidence to pot, So what you're saying is Clarke is right not to pick him yet? Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I accept that footballers often take the big bucks when they're first on the table and understand the risk:reward from a financial perspective. But in terms of the slightly longer game timing is everything in football. And the timing is wrong for him to go and join a big English club where he could get lost in their bloated squad system. You've got to be pretty good as a youngster to get straight into the team at a top eight English Premier league club He's better at the moment to get his wages here bumped up in the short term to senior first team level and negotiate himself an exit clause whilst racking up some first team appearances at a decent level. If he goes down south with 100 first team games under his belt at 20 he'll be taken more seriously by the buying club as a first team player Or, his form might plummet and he never gets ghe chance of that money again If Everton come in, you go Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Everton would be great move for him (or Patterson). It's pretty obvious they are looking looking for a young right back, to transition into Seamus Colemans role as a long term successor. I think they'll end up paying the money the Huns are looking for, for Patterson... Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 23 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Anyone that’s watched him this season would find very little bad to say about him, if at all. Especially with such little experience. The lad is immense. The way he drives forward & consistency of his balls into box (open play or set pieces) are unreal for such a young player at Aberdeen. Cannot remember last time we had someone so consistent at that. Especially that young/inexperienced. Seriously cannot be underestimated just how good/much potential this lad has. He is already miles ahead of ‘the great Patterson’ ? in this respect. Even if his defensive side takes time (no surprise if that happens given the shite around him) then he can be used on RW instead of pish like MacLennan. I genuinely think Ramsay is the biggest player to ever come through our youth system. Eclipsing the likes of Jess even. If we lose him on cheap/too early I will be devastated & current board will be under protection watch. Behave. Link to comment
shut up meg Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Millertime said: Or, his form might plummet and he never gets ghe chance of that money again If Everton come in, you go The Zander Diamond syndrome. Plug looked like he was going places then it all went to rat shit. Link to comment
Millertime Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, shut up meg said: The Zander Diamond syndrome. Plug looked like he was going places then it all went to rat shit. Well, yeah Strike when the iron is hot The difficult bit is knowing when it's hit the temperature 1 Link to comment
NEM Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, shut up meg said: The Zander Diamond syndrome. Plug looked like he was going places then it all went to rat shit. Aye as soon as Anderson fucked off plugs limitations were badly exposed Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 3:11 AM, fine-n-dandy said: I genuinely think Ramsay is the biggest player to ever come through our youth system. Eclipsing the likes of Jess even. On 9/15/2021 at 7:35 AM, NEM said: Steady on 5 hours ago, Redmist1903 said: Behave. You dont think Calvin Ramsay will win more than 18 Scotland caps and play more than 2 seasons in the Premier League? 17 minutes ago, NEM said: Aye as soon as Anderson fucked off plugs limitations were badly exposed You can add Phil McGuire and Mark Reynolds to the list of players Anderson made look better. Not that Reynolds was a bad player Link to comment
slippers Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Redmist1903 said: Behave. Ramsey will go on to play at a much higher level than Jess ever did. Im confident of that. Hard to compare when both completely different types of players. Link to comment
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