VAR

[Mr John]

Everything or nothing: either scrap VAR as it is - which clearly isn't a fix for the refereeing inconsistencies we complained about - or go fully digital and put fucking Skynet in charge of ALL onfield decisions.

 

There are no solutions, only changes.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

23 hours ago, Andy_123 said:

Some of the laws of the game at the moment are as big a problem as the incompetent use of VAR. Offside especially

They were always going to need some tweaking now that we were going to have the “fine detail” of VARin front of us.

Mctominays is a good example.  Three different things happen.

1/ the ball is put in play and at that point Hendry is potentially, marginally in an offside position.

2/. Hendry becomes active and hence offside by touching the keeper (I assume)

3/. Separately, Dykes is clearly fouled.  He’s fouled after the free kick is taken but before Hendry becomes active.

Now that we have the fine detail of the incidents in front of us via VAR (or any live medium) the rules are going to have to be improved/tightened/clarified to reflect that.

If instead the authorities think they can play dumb and claim “oh we never noticed” or even, god forbid, “these things even themselves out over the season” as some kind of justification then we’re even further down the road to fuckedness.

[The Gee Man]

So only 3 VAR decisions have been wrong?? One of them Miovski double touch penalty! Interesting findings 

[The Gee Man]

Three decisions have been deemed incorrect by the Scottish FA's VAR independent review panel (IRP) in the first round of Premiership fixtures.

A red card for Dundee's Josh Mulligan at home to Kilmarnock and the Tayside club's disallowed goal against Livingston were considered errors.

A double-hit penalty from Aberdeen's Bojan Miovski should not have stood.

There have been 407 VAR checks since the start of the season, 24 of which led to on-field reviews.

[eeps]

4 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

Three decisions have been deemed incorrect by the Scottish FA's VAR independent review panel (IRP) in the first round of Premiership fixtures.

A red card for Dundee's Josh Mulligan at home to Kilmarnock and the Tayside club's disallowed goal against Livingston were considered errors.

A double-hit penalty from Aberdeen's Bojan Miovski should not have stood.

There have been 407 VAR checks since the start of the season, 24 of which led to on-field reviews.

Oh well, that's that then. Good old independent review panel.

[JamieMT]

Classic Scottish football whitewash.

It's akin to when they decide to crack down on racist/sectarian abuse, but only find it in the likes of Perth or Paisley.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

How many of the VAR checks, and VAR check 'results,' were consistent? 

[Russell]

So assuming things like the Duk penalty at Ibrox that weren't even checked don't count? 

[Roberto]

Independent reviews are... well...

Yeah I can't be arsed.

Fitba is shite with VAR.

[Big Hat Logan]

So Dundee appealed one of the decisions and it was unsuccessful yet the VAR review folk say it was the wrong call? 
 

Also we could all see that Miovski touched the ball twice, it just shows that VAR ultimately is let down by useless officials.

Scottish Football is absolutely tinpot 

[Big Hat Logan]

2 hours ago, JamieMT said:

Classic Scottish football whitewash.

It's akin to when they decide to crack down on racist/sectarian abuse, but only find it in the likes of Perth or Paisley.

Exactly. They were never go to say that rangers or Celtic had an incorrect VAR decision for them or all the moon howlers would be out in force, refs windows getting panned etc. 

 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

2 hours ago, Roberto said:

Independent reviews are... well...

Yeah I can't be arsed.

Fitba is shite with VAR.

The problem you have in Scotland is that no-one trusts the fuckers at the SFA despite this being an “independent” panel.

The SFA are the cunts who appoint known Huns to officiate the hun games.

Beaton, Walsh, McLean, Aitken, Dallas among others.

So how can they expect anyone to take any notice of anything they say, or indirectly say through a panel?

VAR is NOT the issue, the issue is that we have the same officials overseeing & in control of VAR.   

The refs are VAR. 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I trust them completely.  I also note none of the three incidents involve either cheek, for or against and consider that a function of club population and statistics.

Some claims in this post may be false.

[JamieMT]

3 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

The problem you have in Scotland is that no-one trusts the fuckers at the SFA despite this being an “independent” panel.

The SFA are the cunts who appoint known Huns to officiate the hun games.

Beaton, Walsh, McLean, Aitken, Dallas among others.

So how can they expect anyone to take any notice of anything they say, or indirectly say through a panel?

VAR is NOT the issue, the issue is that we have the same officials overseeing & in control of VAR.   

The refs are VAR. 

100%. The technology's being abused to advantage one particular club (because they didn't get enough decisions their way beforehand).

This is compounded by the general incompetence of officials in Scotland. Even when they're not following the 'penalty Rangers!' protocol, they're f*cking it up.

[ahead on alphabet]

4 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

The problem you have in Scotland is that no-one trusts the fuckers at the SFA despite this being an “independent” panel.

The SFA are the cunts who appoint known Huns to officiate the hun games.

Beaton, Walsh, McLean, Aitken, Dallas among others.

So how can they expect anyone to take any notice of anything they say, or indirectly say through a panel?

VAR is NOT the issue, the issue is that we have the same officials overseeing & in control of VAR.   

The refs are VAR. 

Exactly. The video image isn't the issue. Still the same hun cunts watching it.

[DelMonte]

Said on another thread but deserves a mention. 

70 games without a penalty against them for the hun cunts.

74 is the record in football, held currently by Barcelona who are under investigation for bribery. 

Not a single penalty given against them since the introduction of VAR. 

It’s cheating, it’s not even an opinion anymore, it’s factual. 

[donswin1983]

7 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

Said on another thread but deserves a mention. 

70 games without a penalty against them for the hun cunts.

74 is the record in football, held currently by Barcelona who are under investigation for bribery. 

Not a single penalty given against them since the introduction of VAR. 

It’s cheating, it’s not even an opinion anymore, it’s factual. 

Yup! Average is 1 penalty conceded in the league every c41 games since 2020. 
i said on another thread the next ‘best’ to that in a top flight European league is concession of a penalty in every c10 games.

as you say, it’s factual, based on decisions that should’ve been given/reviewed etc that  haven’t been.

couple that with Tavanier, who’s scored about 20 a season since he signed for them..

an independent review/ audit of this would be fascinating. How many signatures required on a petition to get something debated in parliament? 

[DelMonte]

That decision the other week, where the little ugly, Northern Irish, troll looking fuck dived yet a penalty was still awarded…that should have been the final nail in the coffin for every team in the league to speak up. That decision was the most blatant cheating you’ll ever see in professional football.

As I said, it’s not even a debate anymore. You’d be absolutely off your head to think it’s anything but cheating. 

[Roberto]

I can't be arsed getting worked up about it now.

Killed the game.

Killed the passion.

[Tord31]

8 minutes ago, Roberto said:

I can't be arsed getting worked up about it now.

Killed the game.

Killed the passion.

It's fucked up the game. 

 

[Russell]

On 11/24/2023 at 2:10 PM, ahead on alphabet said:

Exactly. The video image isn't the issue. Still the same hun cunts watching it.

This is the thing. Today's penalty was a foul but it is the same foul that happens everytime a ball is put in the box, commited by strikers and defenders. If there was any consistency then every team should be getting a penalty and conceding a penalty every week. Would love to see our video boy Jordi(?) find some equivalent fouls that weren't given.

Wonder what the stats look like for when these hun penalties are given, i.e. how many are given when they are a couple of goals up versus how many are given when the game is tight?

 

[Dons79]

8 hours ago, DelMonte said:

Said on another thread but deserves a mention. 

70 games without a penalty against them for the hun cunts.

74 is the record in football, held currently by Barcelona who are under investigation for bribery. 

Not a single penalty given against them since the introduction of VAR. 

It’s cheating, it’s not even an opinion anymore, it’s factual. 

But but they conceded one at ibrox against servette!, using VAR, spot on just shows how corrupt the domestic refs are that the shitty Swiss even get one (obviously due to the fact European refs couldn’t give a fuck about there knees being covered in fienan blood.🩸, getting sick of this blatant cheating, not even hiding it anymore, decision made with the middle finger proudly displayed for the rest of Scottish football to see, no wonder we are seen as a joke league everywhere else.

[Helmet]

Pretty much proven now that VAR in Scotland will be used selectively and only what might benefit Rangers is checked or actioned. 

Score against them and the hun behind the screen will be scouring every frame for 2 mins in the build up for the slightest touch.

Concede a goal/pen/free kick against them and nothing will be checked.

What a surprise, none of us saw this coming eh.

[Helmet]

2 hours ago, Russell said:

This is the thing. Today's penalty was a foul but it is the same foul that happens everytime a ball is put in the box, commited by strikers and defenders. If there was any consistency then every team should be getting a penalty and conceding a penalty every week. Would love to see our video boy Jordi(?) find some equivalent fouls that weren't given.

Wonder what the stats look like for when these hun penalties are given, i.e. how many are given when they are a couple of goals up versus how many are given when the game is tight?

 

I think there is already some analysis of this on the web somewhere.

And yes they do tend to concede most of their penalties when the game is already won or the season is completely over.

[Russell]

14 minutes ago, Helmet said:

 

What a surprise, none of us saw this coming eh.

A conversation with my mum during the game. Game was a 5am start for me

[ericblack4boss]

I know I'm like a broken record, and I'm sick of repeating it myself

But until fans stop attending and hitting the clubs in the ONE place it hurts them then strap yourselves in nothing will change,

Complaining to club officials.

To league officials, to message boards, to papers , radio phone ins etc , will make no difference, 

Social media can though, but only if a co ordinated, en masse boycott is taken on.

But it will never happen as I bet over 75 percent of the punters on here wouldnt do it.

But make no mistake that course of action will be the only thing that makes them sit up and notice 

[G man]

On 11/24/2023 at 11:44 AM, The Gee Man said:

Three decisions have been deemed incorrect by the Scottish FA's VAR independent review panel (IRP) in the first round of Premiership fixtures.

A red card for Dundee's Josh Mulligan at home to Kilmarnock and the Tayside club's disallowed goal against Livingston were considered errors.

A double-hit penalty from Aberdeen's Bojan Miovski should not have stood.

There have been 407 VAR checks since the start of the season, 24 of which led to on-field reviews.

It is just the SFA/SPFL trying to justify their cheating. The Miovski incident even after numerous viewings cannot be clearly called as an obvious error to result in it being overturned. 

[G man]

On 11/24/2023 at 8:43 PM, JamieMT said:

100%. The technology's being abused to advantage one particular club (because they didn't get enough decisions their way beforehand).

This is compounded by the general incompetence of officials in Scotland. Even when they're not following the 'penalty Rangers!' protocol, they're f*cking it up.

With the gulf between Celtic and the Govan mob getting wider each season it will only get worse to try and keep them as close to Celtic as they can. It is out and out cheating. 

[DelMonte]

Conceded 1 penalty in 103 league games.

7 penalties in 4 games.

It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain what’s going on. 

[Roberto]

1 hour ago, DelMonte said:

Conceded 1 penalty in 103 league games.

7 penalties in 4 games.

It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain what’s going on. 

That's disgusting.