ahead on alphabet Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Extremely suspect refereeing of that game. Farcical at times. 1 Link to comment
shut up meg Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Helmet said: Patterson is not good enough for this level. Over rated pish tbh. 1 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Mental shankland wasn’t in the original squad but there was a place for shite English pish like Jacob brown. His attitude has been top class since we binned him. Think we’ve been blessed with strikers the last 10 years and would never have needed him back, but he’s certainly proved himself 4 Link to comment
scottymc Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just shows you why it was great to get things over the line before these two games. My nerves wouldn’t have been able to take it! 2 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 Georgia were a fucking disgrace it was embarrassing watching them behave like that. Ref allowing it to happen too, absolute fanny. 1 Link to comment
a don in oz Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I thought Patterson did better of the two full backs in first half; at least he got forward but neither were great defensively. Second half Taylor did better than Patterson, no idea why. Neither great though but hey ho. That one barmy pass straight to them aside, I thought Porteous did well. McKenna also so the centre backs breezed through it imo. Christie was a non entity in midfield, Armstrong did nothing when he came on. Same with McLean. Ferguson looked a good sub. Dykes fits in with how Clarke wants us playing. He likes him up front to be in their face and then hold up and create space for the midfield to support. Not sure how Shankland would fit that normal way of playing but I agree, when he's in good form, it would make sense to start him in the nothing game next and see what he can do. We were far from our best, showed little glimpses of it but that was it. That team are dirty cheating bastards and the ref were weak as piss and VAR just seems crooked to me now. Hey ho. Link to comment
torry_battery_ram Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, G man said: I would agree. If the likes of Doak have any chance of going to Germany he really would have benefited from game time in competitive games. I hope Clarke doesn’t do what some managers have done by staying too loyal to certain players. Cooper cannot get a game for Leeds. Cooper rarely plays for Scotland either. Link to comment
GAME OF BILLIONS Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, a don in oz said: Why do I bother at times? Getting up at stupid o'clock for football... I think the stupid is the operative word. Palestine v Australia coming up, man! That will be a fun match! It's being played on neutral ground... George Galloway's back garden. Link to comment
GAME OF BILLIONS Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, scottymc said: Just shows you why it was great to get things over the line before these two games. My nerves wouldn’t have been able to take it! I would be a corpse right now if we needed to win that match. Honestly, from now on under Clarke, we cannot let relatively diddy teams get the better of us in ANY FUCKING WAY. We're a solid outfit now, Nations League A, Pot 2, potentially a Pot 1 UEFA/FIFA side, when at full strength, we don't look like letting in a goal. Aims: - Quarter Finals at Euros (don't lose to England) - Get Poland/Switzerland in Nations League - Get 9 or 10 points in the Nations League - Be a top seed for the World Cup qualifiers - Get two Nations League C teams in WCQ group - Top the group, avoid playoffs - Be based in Florida, summer 2026 Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Looking at the projected pots for the Euros we definitely want to be a Pot 3 team imo. Pot 2 looks to have an easier bunch of teams to choose from than Pot 3 currently. 1 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, GAME OF BILLIONS said: I would be a corpse right now if we needed to win that match. Honestly, from now on under Clarke, we cannot let relatively diddy teams get the better of us in ANY FUCKING WAY. We're a solid outfit now, Nations League A, Pot 2, potentially a Pot 1 UEFA/FIFA side, when at full strength, we don't look like letting in a goal. Aims: - Quarter Finals at Euros (don't lose to England) - Get Poland/Switzerland in Nations League - Get 9 or 10 points in the Nations League - Be a top seed for the World Cup qualifiers - Get two Nations League C teams in WCQ group - Top the group, avoid playoffs - Be based in Florida, summer 2026 Nae asking for much are ye? 2 Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, GAME OF BILLIONS said: I would be a corpse right now if we needed to win that match. Honestly, from now on under Clarke, we cannot let relatively diddy teams get the better of us in ANY FUCKING WAY. We're a solid outfit now, Nations League A, Pot 2, potentially a Pot 1 UEFA/FIFA side, when at full strength, we don't look like letting in a goal. Aims: - Quarter Finals at Euros (don't lose to England) - Get Poland/Switzerland in Nations League - Get 9 or 10 points in the Nations League - Be a top seed for the World Cup qualifiers - Get two Nations League C teams in WCQ group - Top the group, avoid playoffs - Be based in Florida, summer 2026 It was going so well until the last aim. You've undone all the good work by hoping to be based in the dullest place in America. 1 1 Link to comment
GAME OF BILLIONS Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Parklife said: It was going so well until the last aim. You've undone all the good work by hoping to be based in the dullest place in America. Of all the venues/bases on Turtle Island, Florida would suit Scotland best. The next 1000 days will show who's who and what's what regarding international football. Hopefully, Scotland is bubbling away at the top of the cauldron this decade... Link to comment
HaarDon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Surely last 15 minutes get on Doak for a game like this. I know he wasn't in the squad but we need to blood young talent like him and Bowie in these games Clarke ffs. And let's get rid of Adams. Dykes as a sub. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Shanks seemed to do ok? Link to comment
Helmet Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 hours ago, HaarDon said: Surely last 15 minutes get on Doak for a game like this. I know he wasn't in the squad but we need to blood young talent like him and Bowie in these games Clarke ffs. And let's get rid of Adams. Dykes as a sub. How about we get rid of players when we have replaced them with better? I agree about Doak though, he should have been in the squad already. 21 minutes ago, strachanmcgheegoal said: Shanks seemed to do ok? Wasn’t on the pitch long though was he? I think the problem for Shankland is he’s quite slow, lacks mobility and our national team can’t really afford that up front. But I’m happy if he proves me wrong. Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Helmet said: Patterson is not good enough for this level. Over rated pish tbh. If Pattersin isn't good enough, what does that make Ramsay? Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Millertime said: If Pattersin isn't good enough, what does that make Ramsay? Made of glass. He's far more talented than Patterson, he's just completely unable to stay fit. Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Parklife said: Made of glass. He's far more talented than Patterson, he's just completely unable to stay fit. Which makes him useless! Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: Which makes him useless! Injury Proneness - 20. That's Calvin, unfortunately. Link to comment
Millertime Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Parklife said: Injury Proneness - 20. That's Calvin, unfortunately. Haha , almost Flair - 17 Dribbling - 16 Natural fitness - 4 Stamina - 7 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Can't see Shankland being a starter for Scotland (other than against tinpot opposition in friendlies/dead rubbers) unless we have a wheen o' injuries but he should be ahead of Jacob fucking Brown when it comes to being chosen as the 3rd striker option. Tbf, I should be ahead of Jacob fucking Brown ana Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Can't see Shankland being a starter for Scotland (other than against tinpot opposition in friendlies/dead rubbers) unless we have a wheen o' injuries but he should be ahead of Jacob fucking Brown when it comes to being chosen as the 3rd striker option. Tbf, I should be ahead of Jacob fucking Brown ana Shankland reminds me of Adam Rooney. A good goalscorer, but his all round game and athleticism isn't good enough to hold down a starting place at a higher level than SPFL. Dunno who Jacob Brown is, which is probably the point, but Shankland has done enough over the past few seasons to deserve his place as the backup striker in the squad imo. Link to comment
dave_c Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: Shankland reminds me of Adam Rooney. A good goalscorer, but his all round game and athleticism isn't good enough to hold down a starting place at a higher level than SPFL. Dunno who Jacob Brown is, which is probably the point, but Shankland has done enough over the past few seasons to deserve his place as the backup striker in the squad imo. True - still currently has more of a chance of getting to Germany than Haaland though Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Mental shankland wasn’t in the original squad but there was a place for shite English pish like Jacob brown. His attitude has been top class since we binned him. Think we’ve been blessed with strikers the last 10 years and would never have needed him back, but he’s certainly proved himself I’ve heard him openly admit, on a few podcasts, that his attitude when he was at Aberdeen was stinking, he was taking the piss and that we were quite right to bin him. Said he got a wake up call when he ended up unemployed, then eventually getting a part time gig at Ayr! 1 Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Parklife said: It was going so well until the last aim. You've undone all the good work by hoping to be based in the dullest place in America. 😄 I actually went when Scotland played there. Jacksonville. Farter burst 5-1. Wis arite. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I'm actually going to this Noway game. First home Scotland for fucking YEEEAAARRRSSS. Fleeing in idday for a gig tomorrow relatively close by, so thought it woull be rude not to. Link to comment
thedandydon Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I know Clarke’s mantra is to have a club like set up with this squad which is why he’s sticking with the tried and tested players by and large. Hard to argue as it’s been getting results. Reminds me of Craig Brown’s tenure who stuck by the same core of players but was too slow to introduce the next generation. That led to the Vogts wilderness years where he handed out caps like sweeties because there was a severe lack of experience left to choose from. Pleased to see Shankland get on and have an immediate impact. As the only ‘form’ striker we’ve got right now he probably should be ahead of Dykes at least. We should be using these dead rubbers to see what other options we have up front as Dykes, Brown and Adams are a poor selection (more a reflection on the dearth of talent in the SPFL, especially at youth level). Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I think he's integrated young players into the squad pretty well. Hickey, Patterson, Gilmour, Porteous and now Ferguson have all been brought into the fold in recent times, most of which get regular game time nowadays. Link to comment
thurso Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 If doak is as good as he looks in the under 21s he should already be in the top squad. Can’t really complain tho when we have qualified for the tournament Link to comment
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