Redforever86 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 One of the West African church goers of Aberdeen suggested I gave him a discount on an item in my shop once. Explained my profit margins were small and fair. He said he wouldn’t return, told him fuck off then. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 38 minutes ago, The Buzzard said: Hold on. What the fuck is this? You can negotiate on the price listed on the menu for food in a restaurant? I've never heard of such a thing. Surely the staff would just tell you to chase yourself. I would also wonder if they would have reason to charge you for the booking you'd made as you've effectively cost them a table's worth of income. More and more places take a deposit these days due to the upturn in no shows do they not? Some eateries do take a deposit for a reservation of a table to mitigate the chance on a no-show occurring. Staff could tell someone to "do one" if a patron wishes to exercise their legal right to "an invitation to treat", prior to making an offer of payment for the items they have been served and consumed from an eatery's menu, but by adopting this approach, they have inadvertently lost its employers more revenue (in relation to the desired costs of meals they ideally wish consumers to pay on/from their menu) rather than accepting the offer of a partial settlement from the customer. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 30 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: “ This steak isn’t worth £30, I’ll give you a fiver!” Need to try that . 😄 It's the societal mistaken belief that the retailer is the offerer and the consumer is the acceptor when, in law, it is the other way round. The price a retailer advertises is merely "an invitation to treat", a concept, in layman's terms, meaning they are inviting offers for a product or service. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 33 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: Is that the equivalent of a price of a rabbit hutch in WA like, Brian min? Round these parts yes, though you could live in the bush for that Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 hours ago, BrianFaePerth said: Eh am the Donald trump of the hat. You all love me, though only some will admit it. LOL Show me your portfolio. i buy a house a week. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Sooper-hanz said: I like it. Do you make an offer after or before eating though ? Must be after. He can’t read the menu. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 hours ago, Poodler said: MAD is an excellent poster. A real credit to the board and makes the most mundane topics interesting Thank you, Poodler min. Very much appreciated.👍 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 28 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: I like it. Do you make an offer after or before eating though ? Afterwards min, when the time arises for settlement of cost for goods and services rendered by the eatery to you. A lot of eateries leave themselves wide open for this concept to be applied after you have asked for the bill (especially continental, alfresco eateries). The bill is normally presented in a paper-based receipt encased in a small leather folder. The employee of the eatery then leaves you to time to pay (preferably, for the ease of offerer, in cash). You then offer to pay an amount, ideally below the advertised price, then carefully enclose the cash offer in the leather folder. It is then up to the employee, on behalf of their employers, whether to accept it or not. However, in some instances, by the time they return to your table, you may have already left the eatery without having to negotiate as you have already expressed a willingness to offer a payment by leaving cash encased in the folder. As long as an offer of payment, in cash, in this instance, has been made, not one provision of consumer law has been broken whatsoever. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 With cunts charging up to 8 quid for a bowl of soup these days I'm might start adopting this counter offer tactic. Cheers MAD, you've opened a new dimension. 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 53 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: Round these parts yes, though you could live in the bush for that I never thought the Aborigines/Bush natives dealt in cash?🤔 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 40 minutes ago, The Boofon said: Must be after. He can’t read the menu. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 As funny as having green-coloured impetigo on my face. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 12 minutes ago, cheesepipes said: With cunts charging up to 8 quid for a bowl of soup these days I'm might start adopting this counter offer tactic. Cheers MAD, you've opened a new dimension. Best of luck, Cheesepipes loon.👍 You may save yourself a small fortune over the course of time by adopting this tactic.😉 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 38 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: This is fucking ace. 😂 You ever been jumped by a group of angry chefs before? Ha, ha, no min.😄 Thankfully, they are not the server in a restaurant. If you believe what you see on cooking programmes, they ate too busy cooking food to have time to argue/negotiate with a customer. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Do you say to the server “I’m only paying £10 rather than £20” when they take away to folder/tray? Or do you say fuck all and if they don’t saying anything that is deemed as acceptance? Link to comment
chief_wiggum Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 So if your not paying enough to cover the bill and not hanging about, you must not be tipping the poor server who's on a pittance of a wage and relying on tips? Link to comment
dave_min Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 16 minutes ago, chief_wiggum said: So if your not paying enough to cover the bill and not hanging about, you must not be tipping the poor server who's on a pittance of a wage and relying on tips? Hopefully they don’t have to make up the rest of their bill from their wages Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 31 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said: Anyone still use cheques to pay for anything? My mother when I pay shit for her. Thankfully there is a take a picture of the cheque option on internet banking which makes the process quite simple. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, cheesepipes said: My mother when I pay shit for her. Thankfully there is a take a picture of the cheque option on internet banking which makes the process quite simple. Like her son Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 27 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: Like her son You have no friends and are very unpopular. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, cheesepipes said: You have no friends and are very unpopular. Hurtful and uncalled for. Link to comment
dave_min Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, cheesepipes said: You have no friends and are very unpopular. Is that from the T&C’s here? 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Redforever86 said: Do you say to the server “I’m only paying £10 rather than £20” when they take away to folder/tray? Or do you say fuck all and if they don’t saying anything that is deemed as acceptance? Say fuck all. As long as you have offered to pay by cash and placed cash in the folder, the server can either accept the offer or not, if you are still on the premises. However, you can still lawfully negotiate an alternative cost you wish to offer to pay. If you are no longer on the premises when he or she picks up the encased cash from thectable you say at, then job done. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, chief_wiggum said: So if your not paying enough to cover the bill and not hanging about, you must not be tipping the poor server who's on a pittance of a wage and relying on tips? The Polish waitresses always get paid in full and receive a gratuity each time I visit a restaurant in Gdansk. The food is excellent (especially the native delicacies) and the service is impeccable, and at a fraction of the cost it is here. No need to haggle whatsoever. However, Polish consumer law(s) may be different from our own consumer law(s), therefore the invitation to treat concept may not apply over there. Link to comment
redone Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: Say fuck all. As long as you have offered to pay by cash and placed cash in the folder, the server can either accept the offer or not, if you are still on the premises. However, you can still lawfully negotiate an alternative cost you wish to offer to pay. If you are no longer on the premises when he or she picks up the encased cash from thectable you say at, then job done. So is this principle applicable to other transactions ? ….eg fill your car up with petrol which the pump shows as costing £80 , but then go in to the kiosk and place an envelope containing £40 cash in it on the counter, walk out and drive off sharpish without saying a word before the cashier realises what’s happened. Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, redone said: So is this principle applicable to other transactions ? ….eg fill your car up with petrol which the pump shows as costing £80 , but then go in to the kiosk and place an envelope containing £40 cash in it on the counter, walk out and drive off sharpish without saying a word before the cashier realises what’s happened. The principle applies to any type of transaction, like the one you highlight, between the offerer (the buyer) and the acceptor (the seller), prior to a contract being formed and legally bound. For example, the £80 displayed at the pump is simply an advertisement which the retailer wishes to be paid for the fuel imparted into a consumer's vehicle tank. In essence, it is an invite to place an offer which the retailer can accept or not. Garage forecourts are wily though as they've cottoned on to the fact that motorists do not always pay the full advertised price, as desired, on the pump's display for fuel. Hence why they adopted a type of vendor machine at the point of product delivery (at the pump) to prevent a pump being used and mitigate any perceived losses they may encounter thereafter. 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said: Very attentive and bloody professional Chucked ‘em a good few zlots on my latest trip They are exceptionally attentive, extremely well turned out, and very professional (like you quiet rightly say min).👍🇵🇱 They earn, and fully deserve, their tips. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Sooper-hanz said: That can’t be right. Surely the moment you start filling up then that’s you saying you have accepted the price and is therefore legally binding? Exactly this. Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: The principle applies to any type of transaction, like the one you highlight, between the offerer (the buyer) and the acceptor (the seller), prior to a contract being formed and legally bound. For example, the £80 displayed at the pump is simply an advertisement which the retailer wishes to be paid for the fuel imparted into a consumer's vehicle tank. In essence, it is an invite to place an offer which the retailer can accept or not. Garage forecourts are wily though as they've cottoned on to the fact that motorists do not always pay the full advertised price, as desired, on the pump's display for fuel. Hence why they adopted a type of vendor machine at the point of product delivery (at the pump) to prevent a pump being used and mitigate any perceived losses they may encounter thereafter. Has anyone ever tried this or even know of anyone who has attempted this? And I seriously doubt that the main driver of rolling out pay at pumps is to stop folk filling up and haggling the price. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said: As funny as having green-coloured impetigo on my face. Haha you know the crack MAD. I’d insult you more speaking about a Chinese snooker. You’re one of the good guys. 1 Link to comment
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