Vernon And Mackie?

[Sheeptastic]

Think people are exaggerating how bad Vern was against Villareal. Seen him have many a game like that but go on to score a goal. He's a poacher and needs a decent strike partner. Unfortunately I doubt either Mackie or Magennis are the answer.

 

Can't see Magennis at Aberdeen beyond his contract. He very much looks like a goalkeeper playing outfield.

[Stoneybloke]

Amidst your utter gloom, you are aware Vernon scored 16 goals last season?

Yes, but mostly in the first half of the season. His form dipped rapidly from then and towards the end his performances were very poor. I hope he improves but I hae ma doots.

[Foster14]

Yes, but mostly in the first half of the season. His form dipped rapidly from then and towards the end his performances were very poor. I hope he improves but I hae ma doots.

 

He was carrying an injury that needed operating on, but held off as the team needed him ffs...

[deserter1]

Think people are exaggerating how bad Vern was against Villareal. Seen him have many a game like that but go on to score a goal. He's a poacher and needs a decent strike partner. Unfortunately I doubt either Mackie or Magennis are the answer.

 

Can't see Magennis at Aberdeen beyond his contract. He very much looks like a goalkeeper playing outfield.

 

Totally agree re Vernon, with the lack of possession and service against Villareal he was never going to be one of our better performers.

 

I'm in the minority here, but I think Magennis has decent potential - he's still only 20 and looked good on occasion last season off the bench against some of the bottom 6 sides. Don't think he should start ahead of Vernon or Mackie, but I expect he'll get a fair amount of playing time. Hope he has a good season.

[Sheeptastic]

Totally agree re Vernon, with the lack of possession and service against Villareal he was never going to be one of our better performers.

 

I'm in the minority here, but I think Magennis has decent potential - he's still only 20 and looked good on occasion last season off the bench against some of the bottom 6 sides. Don't think he should start ahead of Vernon or Mackie, but I expect he'll get a fair amount of playing time. Hope he has a good season.

Love his never say die hassler attitude and having bumped into him in town quite a few times, I'd like him to do well because he's a nice enough chap.

 

Just think technical ability may dictate otherwise. Really do hope he proves he is more than just a battering ram though.

[Stoneybloke]

Love his never say die hassler attitude and having bumped into him in town quite a few times, I'd like him to do well because he's a nice enough chap.

 

Just think technical ability may dictate otherwise. Really do hope he proves he is more than just a battering ram though.

 

He reminds me very much of Ernie Winchester who had the same battling instincts, but was quite limited in terms of technical ability. Turnbull kept him for a while but he didn't last that long after he arrived. I also hope Vernon can deliver more and that he is over his injury problems now.

[360]

I would rather see Paton start alongside Verno. It's the last year of his contract ( I think) and he has never gotten a proper run up front. If he's sh*t, then punt him.But at least give him a decent run in his proper position.

[Tord31]

Paton one of the few players at pittodrie with a deal beyond next summere actually. All the other strikers are out of contract

[zerodon47]

paton is utter rhubarb. if anybody is worried about vernon they need t tak a chill pill, he's ane o the best strikers in the spl and he will be quality again next season. would love to get somebody quality in to partner and play off him, but in the meantime im not too worried aboot mackie playin off him. wev enough quality in other areas to setup and score goals so wer gona be fine. have faith!

[WillemVan]

Have you ever seen him play before Tuesday?

 

Yeah loads last season. Obviously he is good at sniffing out goals but I thought his link up play at times was poor but I was hoping this may improve. On Tuesday it was diabolical.

[Supermek]

I realise that it is only pre-season games but never mind shocking against Villareal, Vernon was very poor against Forfar last week, first touch just bounced off him and finishing was every bit as bad as Magennis who worked hard but pulled and scuffed every shot he had.

 

I think we are looking like having a solid team behind the front line but if we dont get another striker we are going to badly struggle when it comes to scoring!

[robbojunior]

I cant believe anyone with half a brain could think vernon is a problem.

 

The problem is the player(s) alongside him.

 

He will get us goals if he gets the service.

[Supermek]

So is it the player(s) alongside him at fault when the ball is passed to him at pace and he cant control it? Then has to go chasing after it before passing it again!

[barassie_afc]

I accept Vernon isnt Marco Van Basten, but I cannot comprehend the abuse he is getting, what the fxck is it with some people, the guy has been the best performing striker we have had in a long while ( I measure strikers based on goals scored) , yet still the zoomers in our support are giving him stick. What the fxck do you want ?

[vanderark14]

I accept Vernon isnt Marco Van Basten, but I cannot comprehend the abuse he is getting, what the fxck is it with some people, the guy has been the best performing striker we have had in a long while ( I measure strikers based on goals scored) , yet still the zoomers in our support are giving him stick. What the fxck do you want ?

 

spot on barassie. Vernon managed to score a fair few last season in a terrible Aberdeen side yet he's still getting abuse from some.

[robbojunior]

So is it the player(s) alongside him at fault when the ball is passed to him at pace and he cant control it? Then has to go chasing after it before passing it again!

 

Clearly no, they are not at fault for his poor control, unless it was actually a poor pass played at his face for instance.

 

But I have 2 points in response:

1) when we're talking about poor first touch, vernon (in general) is well down the list.

2) He's allowed bad games. In fact he scored in a few last season. I remember watching Frank mcdougal making bugger all contribution to games week after week, oh except popping up to put the ball in the net.

[Supermek]

Absolutely people have bad games and i agree that Vernon is the best starting option we have and will get goals along the way but am purely making the point that if he is our main striker or figure head of attack then i am not overly filled with optimism.

[Foster14]

but am purely making the point that if he is our main striker or figure head of attack then i am not overly filled with optimism.

 

Even though he has had one of our highest returns in years from a striker, despite probably playing in one our worst team in years?

 

That includes pretty much being injured for the last 3 months of the season.

[Supermek]

Yes....even though. I am just not that impressed by him unlike yourself who obviously is but lets hope he proves me wrong or we sign another decent striker to play alongside him.

[Foster14]

Yes....even though. I am just not that impressed by him unlike yourself who obviously is but lets hope he proves me wrong or we sign another decent striker to play alongside him.

 

I hope we sign another decent striker to play alongside him, and Brown has made it clear he wants to bring one in.

 

I also think his all round game isn't up to the standard of previous players, but if he is scoring goals, then I am happy. I certainly wouldn't be mumping and moaning based on a poor pre-season.

[bonzodaddy73]

I'm pretty sure CB has noticed that were not overflowing with quality up front. I'm also pretty sure that before the window shuts that we will have another strikers in. Now I'm not in the know like Tup ,but have faith in the manager..

[Stoneybloke]

Absolutely people have bad games and i agree that Vernon is the best starting option we have and will get goals along the way but am purely making the point that if he is our main striker or figure head of attack then i am not overly filled with optimism.

On today's evidence, you are absolutely right not to be optimistic.

[RUL]

Agreed, both were far from impressive.

[torrysheep82]

I am the only one who thinks meggennis is rotten?! hes just a lump who puts himself about, with no composure what so ever. he fits into the mould of an athlete that people tried to make into a footballer. I watched him at st johnstone last year and saw more from vernon in the 15 minutes he got at the end than i saw from meggennis in the 75 that he had.

 

 

 

 

+1

[King Street Loon]

Wasn't at the game, but from what I heard on radio scotland it seemed that we lacked a serious cutting edge up top.

 

Mackie we know to expect this, but hopefully Vernon can find his shooting boots ASAP.

 

Getting a new striker is of paramount importance.

[Dom Sullivan]

Wasn't at the game, but from what I heard on radio scotland it seemed that we lacked a serious cutting edge up top.

 

Mackie we know to expect this, but hopefully Vernon can find his shooting boots ASAP.

 

Getting a new striker is of paramount importance.

Correct - and also a player who can hit the byeline and deliver a cross

[WillemVan]

Tried to warn you guys but some refused to listen. We are going to have serious problems breaking down teams this season with Vernon and Mackie up front. Neither player has the touch, control, vision and intelligence required to link the play with the midfield and create chances. Vernon is good at poaching goals in the box but doesn't contribute much else to the team and all Mackie does is run around clattering into folk.

 

For Aberdeen to take their time in signing a new striker is bullshit, we needed him for the start of the season because we are going to drop points and lose ground straight away.

 

Magennis came on and almost created a goal for himself with a great run, fair enough he sclaffed his shot in the end but he contributed more with that one run than Mackie and Vernon did combined for the whole game.

 

On a postive note, I like the look of our defence and midfield but Pawlett is far more effective on the right wing and I would play Fyvie more central.

 

I wonder if it would be possible to get Leigh Griffths on loan from Wolves?

[dave_min]

RE the OP.

Not deluded, but if you think that Maggenis would be a better option than Vernon then you're the deluded one.

 

Magennis hasn't got it I'm afraid.

I'd have sold him if I could have.

 

I'd like to see Megginson given more of s chance than Megennis.

 

Good post.

 

Prime example of his lack of ability yesterday when he got past a couple of defenders because of his pace then spectacularly failed to strike the ball.

 

The fact that he was signed as a keeper and now plays upfront should have been a sign.

 

Good athlete.

Bad footballer.

[minijc]

Good post.

 

Prime example of his lack of ability yesterday when he got past a couple of defenders because of his pace then spectacularly failed to strike the ball.

 

The fact that he was signed as a keeper and now plays upfront should have been a sign.

 

Good athlete.

Bad footballer.

He wasn't signed as a keeper here though was he? As for yesterday, defender done well to put him off.

[dave_min]

He wasn't signed as a keeper here though was he? As for yesterday, defender done well to put him off.

 

I know, believe it or not he was signed as a footballer!