tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 SPAIN: Casillas©, Arbeloa, Piqué, Ramos, Jordi Alba, Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Torres, Iniesta IRELAND: Given, O’Shea, Dunne, St.Ledger, Ward, Duff ©, Andrews, Whelan, McGeady, Keane, Doyle CROATIA: Pletikosa, Strinić, Ćorluka, Schildenfeld, Vida, Pranjić, Rakitić, Vukojević, Modrić, Srna, MandžukićNo Jelavic, contrary to earlier post ITALY: Buffon, Abate, Barzagli, Chiellini, Balzaretti, Marchisio, Pirlo, De Rossi, T. Motta, Di Natale, Cassano Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 From the Beeb: As I've already explained, Italy have to win if they are stand any chance of making it through to the quarters. And even then, a 2-2 (or higher) draw over Gdansk means an Italian win would count for nothing. Simon Stothard on Twitter: "Spain and Croatia draw 2-2 and Italy win 4-0. How wouldn't Italy qualify with better goal difference? Am I missing something?" To answer your question Simon, hopefully as simply as possible, when teams are tied on points, initially the results involving those tied teams count to decide who qualifies. So basically, with the results you suggested, it becomes a "mini-league" withing the group featuring Spain, Italy and Croatia, all of whom would have five points. Italy's four goals against Ireland wouldn't count and so Croatia would go through courtesy of a better goal difference than Italy. I swear this vein on my temple has been getting bigger since Saturday Link to comment
E-P-K Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Why a 2-2 (or higher score draw) rather than 1-1 or 0-0 ? Is it to do with goals scored rather than goal difference when this "mini-league" matters ? Link to comment
dar3vil Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Goals in direct matches are considered. If Italy'll win against Eire it'll have 5 point like Spain and Croatia if they'll draw. At this point Italy made 1goal+1goal againt Spain+Croatia=2; if Croatia and Spain will draw 2-2 their count will be 1+2 (1 againt italy, 2 in this game)=3 so they will pass and italy should be out of tournament! (i am sorry for my poor english i hope you understood). in my opinion italian journalists speak a lot of the "agreement draw" between Spain and Croatia, they take the italian victory against EIRE for granted. I belive Spain will win against Croatia but i am not sure about italian victory with EIRE so the passage of the round is the hands of italian team! Link to comment
E-P-K Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Goals in direct matches are considered. If Italy'll win against Eire it'll have 5 point like Spain and Croatia if they'll draw. At this point Italy made 1goal+1goal againt Spain+Croatia=2; if Croatia and Spain will draw 2-2 their count will be 1+2 (1 againt italy, 2 in this game)=3 so they will pass and italy should be out of tournament! (i am sorry for my poor english i hope you understood). in my opinion italian journalists speak a lot of the "agreement draw" between Spain and Croatia, they take the italian victory against EIRE for granted. I belive Spain will win against Croatia but i am not sure about italian victory with EIRE so the passage of the round is the hands of italian team! Trapattoni will probably be sacked in the morning regardless of the result tonight, so if he wants to enjoy his retirement in Italy, fully expect Ireland to be well beaten tonight, Link to comment
E-P-K Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Mon the War Criminals Gary Neville in the background smoking a fag, undercover scouting mission. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Jellyfish on the bench Nae luck. Mon the Cassano, Iniesta, Torres, Alba, Mandzukic & Casillas Link to comment
E-P-K Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The title is incorrect, Hopefully Croatia score, crowd will just go nuts. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Which is the better game? I've got Kille v Croatia on. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 The title is incorrect, Cheers, sorted. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ha, that's the 3rd time the commentator has called David Silva 'David Villa' Link to comment
MincePie Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The commentator in the Spain game is convinced David Silva is David Villa, just called him Villa 3 times in a row Link to comment
Dynamo Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ireland are just Celtic. Turning their backs bouncing up and down.Just can't get enough. Cunts. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Which is the better game? I've got Kille v Croatia on. Choice between Mark Bright or Mick McCarthy. Link to comment
Sandafc Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ha, that's the 3rd time the commentator has called David Silva 'David Villa' Hes having a mare... He also said that Cassano has scored twice as scored against Spain in first game... Also he might be right with this but why is he saying Italy qualify top if it stays like this? Edit: Gary Linekar just explained it.. Confusing tho. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hes having a mare... He also said that Cassano has scored twice as scored against Spain in first game... Also he might be right with this but why is he saying Italy qualify top if it stays like this? Edit: Gary Linekar just explained it.. Confusing tho. Just ignore all results involving Ireland if the other 3 teams are tied on 5 points. Incidentally Di Natale scored v Spain. What is that commentator on? Link to comment
Sandafc Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Do croatia know they have to score to go through? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Haha almost... Link to comment
Sandafc Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Casillas is shite Did someone honestly say that?! Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Did someone honestly say that?! No, but: http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=30104 Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Croatia going for it now, Jellyfish on. Link to comment
Sandafc Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 You can tell how desperate the commentary team are for Croatia to win as they dont want England to play Spain... Finally for Spain.... Link to comment
tutankamun Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 1-0 Spain Still no 0-0 game in the tournament. Croatia, like the Russians & the Danes, played well but OUT. Link to comment
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