Euthanasia

[boboisared]

My grandma is in a bad way and recently the dementia has become so bad that she knows who none of her immediate family are and can't recognise my grandad who passed away years ago from photos.

 

She recently broke her pelvis and the care home have had to strap her in to a wheelchair to stop her falling again. Having previously been unsure I'm now definitely pro Euthanasia after seeing the state she's in. I personally think anyone who wants their grandma to live through that "because it's my grandma" is being selfish.

 

What's everyone elses thoughts on the matter?

[fatshaft]

I'm all in favour, I've quite a long list of people I would like "euthenised". They're nae very aul' but it would make me happier to never have to see or hear from them again.

[K-9]

The options do not relate to the question in the poll?

 

But 100% for - can't think of (m)any real reasons for the against arguement.

[Huntlysheep]

You should be able to do it if you feel you need to end your life. Your life is your life nae the fucking goverments who are they to decide if a seriously ill person is to die?

[vanderark14]

garry glitter is a massive fan of this

[boboisared]

The options do not relate to the question in the poll?

 

But 100% for - can't think of (m)any real reasons for the against arguement.

Monged it up but most will be able to work it out hopefully!

[The Boofon]

garry glitter is a massive fan of this

 

 

 

+1

[Dynamo]

My grandma is in a bad way and recently the dementia has become so bad that she knows who none of her immediate family are and can't recognise my grandad who passed away years ago from photos.

 

She recently broke her pelvis and the care home have had to strap her in to a wheelchair to stop her falling again. Having previously been unsure I'm now definitely pro Euthanasia after seeing the state she's in. I personally think anyone who wants their grandma to live through that "because it's my grandma" is being selfish.

 

What's everyone elses thoughts on the matter?

 

I'm for it.

 

There are issues though, like here for example with your grandma - Who's choice would this be? Her own? Or would someone be making this on her behalf which I'm not sure I agree with at all.

[K-9]

I'm for it.

 

There are issues though, like here for example with your grandma - Who's choice would this be? Her own? Or would someone be making this on her behalf which I'm not sure I agree with at all.

I would have it so my family could decide on my behalf and they would have my wishes recorded officially well in advance. Folk who want to sign up can and those who don't won't have to.

[fatjim]

I would extend it to people with right wing leanings, terrible spellers and Margaret Thatcher.

[The Boofon]

I would extend it to people with right wing leanings, terrible spellers and Margaret Thatcher.

 

 

I woodn't.

[fatjim]

I woodn't.

 

Actually I wouldn't put too many restrictions. As long as I get my wicked way afterwards. Bobo's gran sounds almost ripe.

[spamspamspam]

Does the person have to be ill?

 

Na, seriously... I watched my granddad go from a 6'4" monster of a man to a skin and bone in the space of 6 months because of blood poisoning and gangrene. His leg went gangrene from an old WWII injury and it was slowly giving him serious blood poisoning, because of his age and the pointlessness of taking his legs off the pretty much just nursed him to death. By the end he didn

[tup]

Actually I wouldn't put too many restrictions. As long as I get my wicked way afterwards. Bobo's gran sounds almost ripe.

 

 

+80.

[a don in oz]

I'm in favour of voluntary but not non-voluntary euthanasia.

 

That is if you are compos mentis and decide your life is no longer worth living due to medical and/or pain related issues, or at some point before you lose your faculties you determine that you don't wish to live in circumstances where you don't have them (in much the same way you can specify DNR or otherwise), then being able to decide to take your own life and having that done in a painless medically sanctioned way I have no problem with. I

 

I don't believe that others should be able to decide to end the suffering of another person, whether or not they are of sound mind, unless that person specified they wanted it.

 

It's a mine field though. For it to work it would need legal water tightness, no loopholes and a thousand hoops to be jumped through to ensure the will of the individual concerned was truly being carried out.

 

 

[tup]

I don't believe that others should be able to decide to end the suffering of another person, whether or not they are of sound mind, unless that person specified they wanted it.

 

That rules Bluto out then.

[vanderark14]

MT is really ill right now.

 

Could he be a candidate?

[tup]

MT is really ill right now.

 

Could he be a candidate?

 

He could always just top himself.

[buchanskii]

I'd favour it, however, there is too much potential for corruptness. There will no doubt have to be a panel that will justify the action and on that panel will be a lot of Harold Shipman like creatures that will go around killing innocents.

 

Hitler was a big fan of Euthanasia - going about killing people deemed incurable to save money on caring for them.

[boboisared]

I'm for it.

 

There are issues though, like here for example with your grandma - Who's choice would this be? Her own? Or would someone be making this on her behalf which I'm not sure I agree with at all.

I doubt she'd want to live the way she is.

 

Actually I wouldn't put too many restrictions. As long as I get my wicked way afterwards. Bobo's gran sounds almost ripe.

FFS min

[The Boofon]

He could always just top himself.

 

 

No one could top Millertime.

[OddJob]

My grandma is in a bad way and recently the dementia has become so bad that she knows who none of her immediate family are and can't recognise my grandad who passed away years ago from photos.

 

She recently broke her pelvis and the care home have had to strap her in to a wheelchair to stop her falling again. Having previously been unsure I'm now definitely pro Euthanasia after seeing the state she's in. I personally think anyone who wants their grandma to live through that "because it's my grandma" is being selfish.

 

What's everyone elses thoughts on the matter?

Sorry to hear about your grandma Bobo, terrible illness which i sadly know only to well myself as my grandma was exactly the same. My gran had a stroke and the doctors said it would be really unfair if they operated, especially at her age and she would probably have still been in horrendous pain anyway. She passed away 5 days later.

 

My Grandad was the same. He was diagnosed with terminal cancer last November, and his rapid deterioration was heartbreaking and my mum signed a form on his behalf asking for no resuscitation. Got the phone call on a Saturday from my dad that he had a few hours left, but he fought hard and sadly but also thankfully for his sake passed away on the Monday. My dad said if he could have pushed in all the morphine to take away all my grandads pain he would have did it.

 

So i fully back euthanasia 100%, always have and always will.

[Foster14]

I am all for it. The day you pass 16, you should be able to sign a living will that indicates you want to be put out of your misery should specific illnesses/issues arise in your life, especially those where you would be unable to make a decision yourself.

 

Only issue I can see with that is that maybe you may change your mind at that point, but may not be able to convey it. Bit of an issue there I suppose.

[fatjim]

[Ke1t]

My grandma is in a bad way and recently the dementia has become so bad that she knows who none of her immediate family are and can't recognise my grandad who passed away years ago from photos.

 

She recently broke her pelvis and the care home have had to strap her in to a wheelchair to stop her falling again. Having previously been unsure I'm now definitely pro Euthanasia after seeing the state she's in. I personally think anyone who wants their grandma to live through that "because it's my grandma" is being selfish.

 

What's everyone elses thoughts on the matter?

 

I think there's no Yes or No answer to that. At best I'd go with 'Possibly but with a number of qualifiers'.

 

Obviously there's the religious argument, that suicide is a sin. We can, however, dismiss that as complete and utter fairytale nonsense. I just felt we should do the religious folks the courtesy of mentioning their infantile argument.

 

A real concern, however, is that you'll get relatives having the power of life or death, with their inheritance just waiting to be scooped up like a prize for murder. Sure, pull the plug, I'm off to buy myself a new car.

 

There needs to be a process, a legitimate, medical process, by which a person's life can be terminated. And I'm not talking about simply asking the relatives or a family doctor. Even the patient's own opinion on the matter should be subject to scrutiny, and not taken as the final word.

[Bluto10]

Why don't they commit suicide?

 

I'd have no problem doing that myself or on behalf if it was previous asked for.

 

No law would stop me helping a loved one

[Ke1t]

Why don't they commit suicide?

 

I'd have no problem doing that myself or on behalf if it was previous asked for.

 

No law would stop me helping a loved one

 

It's not that easy.

 

If you're bed-ridden, hooked up to various machines and drips, and too weak to climb out of your bed, you're pretty much restricted in the harm you can do yourself. If you're unconscious or vegetative then your chances of killing yourself are practically nil, except perhaps in a sort of a Dreamscape type situation.

 

NB, holding your breath in an attempt to suffocate yourself, doesn't work.

[fatjim]

When my gran was going loopy she would ask the same question every 20 mins or so. I would give her a different answer each time just to fuck with her even more.

[Bluto10]

You'r own granny? That's nice of you

[dave_min]

When my gran was going loopy she would ask the same question every 20 mins or so. I would give her a different answer each time just to fuck with her even more.

 

I would agree with you being put to sleep.