Bamber Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 What's the deal with the transfer windows/contracts and our European game? Does the window open 1st July? Do most contracts run until 30th June? From WIki Transfer window in Scotland open on 9 June, Transfer window in England opens 1 JUly "Although, in England, the transfer window formally opens on 1 July, transfers between clubs in the same association can take place as soon as the last competitive fixtures for the season have been played. However, many transfers will not be completed until 1 July because many players' contracts expire on 30 June. International transfers cannot be made until the window has opened on 1 July." I assume international transfers is "transfers in" Also from UEFA Europa rules List A has to be submitted by the following fixed deadlines:a. 20 June 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the first qualifying round;b. 8 July 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the second qualifying round;c. 22 July 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the third qualifying round;d. 8 August 2016 (24.00CET) for all matches in the play-offs;e. 1 September 2016 (24.00CET) for all further matches from the first match inthe group stage up to and including the final So any player MUST be an Aberdeen player on 20 June to be eligible for the first round and 8 July for the 2nd So at the moment we are potentially short of Hayes Mcginn and Storey for the first Qualifying round Link to comment
The Oxford Don Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Is now a good time to say that I thought at one of the Caley matches (must have been boxing day?) that Storey reminded me of a certain young fast Aberdeenshire loon that was good to have about the place? Decent signing simply because its not a type of player we have had for a while assuming we want (and can keep) Hayes out on the wing. Better touch and a (much) more composed finisher, but yes, if you were looking to make comparisons then he is a similar type of player. Gives us something we haven't had for a while, a striker who likes to run in behind defences. Could also be used wide which will (fingers crossed) mean an end to the absolute nonsense of sticking Rooney on the wing. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Not overly excited by his signing to be honest. Hope he's fantastic for us & we are one of these clubs that a player just fits with.He's fast & has shown some signs of decent skills now & again but his pace is his biggest asset. Hope he isn't a Darren Mackie mark 2 in that sense though. He is well suited to counter attacking football so hopefully this means we will push for more goals now after taking early leads.. Welcome to a great club Storey, all the best for you & us. Would have preferred Stewart over Storey in all honesty, I think he offers more. Pleasing to have likely pissed off Hughes with this signing though. I'm sure he'll get Mckay back now though. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Whats that phrase about its a new one on me The net. Common expression I assumed.. Dead ball, now onion bag. Are you foreign by any chance? Genuine question Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes, but in that respect our order of preference would still be Stewart > Storey > > > > > > Mackay. Rooney does not go to the wing because he suddenly thinks he's a winger, he does so to challenge the hopefully shorter full back for the high ball which either Hayes or, depending if he can be arsed, Mcginn can hopefully exploit. The flaw in that plan is a/ Scottish clubs insist on, and get away with, playing CH's at FB and b/ then expecting Rooney to be in the middle to receive Hayes/Mcginn's cross. Not going to lie, I like this signing in terms of the type of player and the quick decisive way it has been done a lot. Link to comment
The Oxford Don Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 SMG - there were a fair few games where David Goodheavens was up front, with Rooney out wide. He wasn't 'drifting out wide to challenge shorter full backs', he was actually playing wide. It didn't work, was horrible to watch and it made me cry. Link to comment
KidCreole Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The net. Common expression I assumed.. Dead ball, now onion bag. Are you foreign by any chance? Genuine questionNo Scottish mate but I get that alot online, Thank fuck for auto correct and a sense of humour. ahh the net onion bag I get it now Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I do like that Storey is comfortable enough taking shots on with either foot. So on his best days he is fast, strong, a pain in the arse, pretty skillfull with good close control & two footed. ie a very good striker.On his bad days he's still strong & fast & a pain in the arse. Will certainly offer a lot more than DG ever did. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Were you at the freezing match vs Caley on Boxing day this year? Storey was the very quick striker, who kept running between Considine and Quinn. His movement gave them a torrid afternoon. Having said that, he looked poor technically and made some very poor decisions. I remember saying to my mate, that if he was better with the ball at his feet, we'd have been about 0-5 down at half time! As mentioned on another thread, we now have options up front: Poacher - RooneyTarget man - StockleyQuick striker - StoreyAh him.Yeah i was there. Link to comment
SkyeDon Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 According to yesterday's Record: "At the age of 22 Bosman rules assure Swindon of a sizeable cash payment should Storey sign for another club." Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 According to yesterday's Record: "At the age of 22 Bosman rules assure Swindon of a sizeable cash payment should Storey sign for another club." Even if it's cross border? Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Even if it's cross border?Why do you think we got compensation for Maguire? Link to comment
red_ordead Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 any word on the length of contract offered? this will probably give an insight into Deek's opinion of the player, ie. a long term 2018/19 contract would suggest he really sees potential whereas a 2017 contract would suggest a bit of a gamble... Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Why do you think we got compensation for Maguire?Are the rules not different going the other way? or maybe that is just regarding 23/24 year olds & there being a one year difference in the compo agreements in each Country. Did we not avoid paying the Brummies compo for Aluko somehow? Also remember some Guff managers having a wee gripe with Motherwell about avoiding compo payments that they would have gotten had the players gone to other Guff clubs Link to comment
Foster14 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 According to yesterday's Record: "At the age of 22 Bosman rules assure Swindon of a sizeable cash payment should Storey sign for another club." Only if he was offered a contract extension by Swindon, I think. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 If he was offered a pay rise in a reasonable and timely manner i.e. during the season then perhaps a fee will be payable. likely we'll find a way to wriggle out hopefully. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Only if he was offered a contract extension by Swindon, I think. If he was offered a pay rise in a reasonable and timely manner i.e. during the season then perhaps a fee will be payable. likely we'll find a way to wriggle out hopefully.Well they did offer him a new deal & wanted to keep him, so guess they would have been smart enough to have made the offer prior to our approach, otherwise fk them as he was free to talk to clubs from January. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 how old was dec mcmanus last summer. we got nowt for him Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 how old was dec mcmanus last summer. we got nowt for himHe's still only 22 or something now but we hadn't offered him a new deal I don't think. Link to comment
NPRC Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The cross border compensation loophole is for players aged 23 on May 1st (compensation is due till 24 within England). We used this one for Rory McArdle (remember him?): http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mcardle-mockery-890232 So I guess for Storey, it comes down to whether they offered him a contract in time and of reasonable substance. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hopefully it was something like this. Storey..."The Famous Aberdeen have offered me a two year deal, Fantastic club, hard to resist this chance" Swindon gadgies.."Oh but we'd like to keep you, we'd like to offer you a deal also" Storey.."well yer too fkn late" Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 and if they did presumably its going to be a relatively modest fee? any idea how it is calculated? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 and if they did presumably its going to be a relatively modest fee? any idea how it is calculated?Is it nae something around £40k for each year on their books.. Maybe slightly less for when he was a bit younger. So about £250k at that price since 2010 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 PFCC hearings require each club to provide evidence to support their valuation of the player in question. In making its judgment the committee will take into account the costs of both clubs in operating a Football Academy or Centre of Excellence, as well as the age and playing record of the player, the length of time he was registered with his original club, the terms offered by both clubs, the status of the two clubs, the substantiated interest shown by other clubs in acquiring the registration of the player and any amounts paid by the original club to acquire the player in the first place. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I can't see us having been interested unless certain it was below £100k tbh he has only had one season producing decent performance Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Looked alright whenever I've seen him. Which admittedly has only been once in the flesh, with the rest on tv. Terrible hair cut. That's all I really have to add. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=28647.21450 According to the Swindon fans, they would be due compo payments ranging from fk all up to £100k & they were then amazed to hear "rumour" of Caley couldn't afford to pay the £200k compo fee Aberdeen paid Swindon for his development. I really hope we haven't spunked as much as that on him. up to £100k is just about acceptable but nae as much as £200k when we could have spent a little more than that to get Stewart. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I would be disappointed if we've spent more than 50 quid Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 This signing is giving me morning glory Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 So if we need Miles Storey to play in the Europa first round games we could just get him to throw on one of Craig Stories tops 1 Link to comment
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