Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[Parklife]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

Unfortunate way with words. It's like you're suggesting that because you're not sure that you've ever seen attendance records, you can't understand that anyone else can. Actually, that's exactly what you said. 

Well I checked and the House of Commons website told me no such data is held or published. 

There may be an external source that monitors and reports this though, I don't know? 

[manboobs109]

You used to be able to tell by their voting record but I'd imagine that'll be done virtually now. 

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

Yes that data is available, it being in the public interest that we know if they're doing their jobs or not. 

You used to have to vote in person so low participation in votes = skiving cunt. 

Should be available for last year

[The Buzzard]

I don't think there are any official attendance records kept in the Scottish Parliament either but there is a record of their activities and output that you can see on each MSP's page.

Doesn't give you a definitive answer on attendance but the voting record does indicate if they were there at the end of the day to vote. Although now that remote voting has been introduced that might mean they participated from their own home. 

Minutes of committee meetings also tell you who was in attendance. Again though, they can take part remotely. 

[For Fecks Sake]

Mhairi Black's maiden speech in the chamber was hailed by some MP's as one of the best maiden speeches ever.  It would appear that she has not followed up on this promising start and has barely got a mention of late.

[manboobs109]

I'll put money on her coming out in future claiming to suffer from anxiety caused by the attitude of older, male, white MP's

[Parklife]

14 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

I'll put money on her coming out in future claiming to suffer from anxiety caused by the attitude of older, male, white MP's

Would doubt it. She seems a very strong minded and strong willed young woman. 

The kind that absolutely terrifies closed-minded old white male MP's. 

[Studebaker-90]

6 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Would doubt it. She seems a very strong minded and strong willed young woman. 

The kind that absolutely terrifies closed-minded old white male MP's. 

* a complete mink 

[manboobs109]

8 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Would doubt it. She seems a very strong minded and strong willed young woman. 

The kind that absolutely terrifies closed-minded old white male MP's. 

I'm not saying it'll be true I'm saying she'll use it as an excuse for her skiving

[Parklife]

7 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

her skiving

An unproven accusation. 

[Parklife]

Just now, rocket_scientist said:

Voting records?

I'm not doing the work to check the number of votes she's missed in comparison to the average MP. 

[Parklife]

5 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

? in that case you are not qualified to refute his allegation of skiving, which may well have been made without due diligence also. 

Not refuting, just saying it's unproven. 

[manboobs109]

She's voted in around 60% of the votes

[Parklife]

21 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

She's voted in around 60% of the votes

 

20 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

What's the average?

The SNP don't vote on English only matters, so unless MB has factored that in to his 60%, it's misleading. 

[Joe pike]

What about our very own Kirsty Blackman then?

She Is like the invisible woman.

Never been seen or heard from throughout this pandemic.

I think she resigned as Some SNP honcho at the start of the year and seems to be happy to pick up her MP's salary

Same as that other SNP mp who got sacked for breaking covid rules but refuses to resign.

[muttonhumper]

2 hours ago, Joe pike said:

What about our very own Kirsty Blackman then?

She Is like the invisible woman.

Never been seen or heard from throughout this pandemic.

I think she resigned as Some SNP honcho at the start of the year and seems to be happy to pick up her MP's salary

Same as that other SNP mp who got sacked for breaking covid rules but refuses to resign.

Worse than that, she's in with all these Trans freaks stirring up shit in the party.

I'd post here latest tweet, where she is furious that parliament voted to prevent hairy cocked freaks in dresses from being allowed to examine the fuds of rape victims.

Said in the aftermath of this "she would like to steer the ship back on to the right path" or some other deluded. self absorbed fuckwittery.

She's a fucking moron.

Would post it, but blocked the cunt on the spot as she has been real intolerable of late, and that was the last I could take.

I believe she may not be right in the head.

 

Background / summary on the issue...

https://wingsoverscotland.com/non-trivial-pursuits/?fbclid=IwAR2s4ApNalPrkxw57gUbbzjA5EGu3XWRnKxBBSCUKyjimqgVXGXNPDjtOdk

With the mutants up in arms.

 

Thank fuck these cunts have now been derailed.

Fucking cretinous pieces of shit.

[shut up meg]

2 hours ago, Joe pike said:

What about our very own Kirsty Blackman then?

She Is like the invisible woman.

Never been seen or heard from throughout this pandemic.

I think she resigned as Some SNP honcho at the start of the year and seems to be happy to pick up her MP's salary

Same as that other SNP mp who got sacked for breaking covid rules but refuses to resign.

Mhairi Black just over 60%

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Mhairi_Black&mpc=Paisley_and_Renfrewshire_South&house=commons

Kirsty Blackman is slightly higher

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Kirsty_Blackman&mpc=Aberdeen_North&house=commons

I can't find the average voting online in a 5 minute search. If anyone else is really bothered, fill yer boots.

[Jocky Balboa]

3 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

Worse than that, she's in with all these Trans freaks stirring up shit in the party.

I'd post here latest tweet, where she is furious that parliament voted to prevent hairy cocked freaks in dresses from being allowed to examine the fuds of rape victims.

Said in the aftermath of this "she would like to steer the ship back on to the right path" or some other deluded. self absorbed fuckwittery.

She's a fucking moron.

Would post it, but blocked the cunt on the spot as she has been real intolerable of late, and that was the last I could take.

I believe she may not be right in the head.

 

Background / summary on the issue...

https://wingsoverscotland.com/non-trivial-pursuits/?fbclid=IwAR2s4ApNalPrkxw57gUbbzjA5EGu3XWRnKxBBSCUKyjimqgVXGXNPDjtOdk

With the mutants up in arms.

 

Thank fuck these cunts have now been derailed.

Fucking cretinous pieces of shit.

You beat me to it MH, she is a fucking muppet who is in thrall to the freakazoids who are trying to destroy a century of progress on women's rights.

[The beard of mcinnes]

10 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

If Mhairi Black is the dyed blonde dyke representing Paisley or Renfrewshire or such like, then she's going to be looking for a real job. The locals tell me she has the worst attendance record in the House of Commons. Lazy cunt. 

You don't know who she represents but they've told you she is lazy.

 

All of them.

 

Interesting 

[Jocky Balboa]

19 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

 

High levels of homophobia here.

I take it you want a Scotland with no gay people in it, how do you intend to achieve that?

To what do you attribute "high levels", if I may be pedantic? Okay, let me clarify my stance a little for you;

MacKay, despite being married with children, persistently made creepy overtures to a 16 year old boy, even long after being told, very clearly, the answer was "NO!" That makes him a predatory faggot, not an honourable gay man.

Alyn Smith is a theatrical chancer who, for all his "I beg of you, chez colleague!" / "Please, please, leave a light on for us!" speeches in the Euro Parliament, watched meekly as Brexit beckoned... then parachuted himself into a safe Westminster seat for the next five years! I did not insult his sexuality, merely stating that he has a boyfriend called Jordon, who happens to be a noted misogynist who abuses women from behind his keyboard, just for standing up for women's rights and/or denouncing "trans activist" extremists.

I find it telling that you denounce me for a few rebukes against sleazy politicians, yet make no attempt to refute the points I made. It's almost like many SNP supporters are in some kind of denial. For all the talk of independence being a chance to do things differently and ultimately better, the movement has not only been dragged into the gutter, but many supporters tolerate and/or turn a blind eye to it. What's the point in independence, if we put up with more of the same crap?

[NEM]

21 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

 

High levels of homophobia here.

I take it you want a Scotland with no gay people in it, how do you intend to achieve that?

The North Korean method

[alscotoz]

10 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

You don't know who she represents but they've told you she is lazy.

 

All of them.

 

Interesting 

Are you one of RS's so called 'mutants'?

[The Boofon]

16 hours ago, Jocky Balboa said:

To what do you attribute "high levels", if I may be pedantic? Okay, let me clarify my stance a little for you;

MacKay, despite being married with children, persistently made creepy overtures to a 16 year old boy, even long after being told, very clearly, the answer was "NO!" That makes him a predatory faggot, not an honourable gay man.

Alyn Smith is a theatrical chancer who, for all his "I beg of you, chez colleague!" / "Please, please, leave a light on for us!" speeches in the Euro Parliament, watched meekly as Brexit beckoned... then parachuted himself into a safe Westminster seat for the next five years! I did not insult his sexuality, merely stating that he has a boyfriend called Jordon, who happens to be a noted misogynist who abuses women from behind his keyboard, just for standing up for women's rights and/or denouncing "trans activist" extremists.

I find it telling that you denounce me for a few rebukes against sleazy politicians, yet make no attempt to refute the points I made. It's almost like many SNP supporters are in some kind of denial. For all the talk of independence being a chance to do things differently and ultimately better, the movement has not only been dragged into the gutter, but many supporters tolerate and/or turn a blind eye to it. What's the point in independence, if we put up with more of the same crap?

1 in 10 apparently. Seems a bit high. 

[caledonia]

[The beard of mcinnes]

On 12/12/2020 at 5:14 AM, alscotoz said:

Are you one of RS's so called 'mutants'?

No idea what that means, but he doesn't half chat a lot of shit.

 

[The beard of mcinnes]

On 12/11/2020 at 6:44 PM, rocket_scientist said:

I didn't know the precise name of the constituency but I know where my son, his fiancée and their friends live which just happens to be in her constituency, which I have now looked up to be as I said.

Had you read the thread further, you would have seen that I wasn't saying that every member of that constituency was saying the same thing, a preposterously impossible leap on your part.

Interesting indeed. 

That was you just making stuff up then to suit a position you held.

Glad that has been clarified.

 

[The beard of mcinnes]

On 12/11/2020 at 6:29 PM, Jocky Balboa said:

To what do you attribute "high levels", if I may be pedantic? Okay, let me clarify my stance a little for you;

 

The  fact that a large number of your posts refer to lgbtq+ people in a negative way.

 

Fairly simply reasoning I'd have thought.

[Jocky Balboa]

10 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

The  fact that a large number of your posts refer to lgbtq+ people in a negative way.

 

Fairly simply reasoning I'd have thought.

There is significant difference between not caring a hoot what consenting adults do behind closed doors, and rolling your eyes at the alphabet soup brigade and their increasingly extreme tactics (how many letters do they want FFS?!) as with every concession won, they actually get more, not less, violent.

The very combination is contradictory, given that the term "bisexual" debunks the 'T' element's hypothesis that genders come in 57 varieties. I also wonder how long it will be before the '+' is replaced by a P, given the movement's higher echelons are currently dominated by scum like Peter Tatchell, who is on record as promoting paedophilia. 

(Interestingly, Twitter apparently bans people for stating such things as women don't have penises and that biological sex is binary, but tolerate members who refer to themselves as "minor attracted persons". Go figure.)

[The beard of mcinnes]

do you actually think that helps you?

 

stop digging ffs

[Jocky Balboa]

2 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

do you actually think that helps you?

 

stop digging ffs

I'm sorry, what does that first sentence even mean? I gave a clearly set-out argument, confirming that I have no issue with the preferences of consenting adults behind closed doors, while indicating my reasoning for dislike of what is becoming little more than an alphabet soup ragtag of extremists. You made no attempt to refute any of it. Try again, or don't, the choice is yours. With respect to the latest craze surrounding the 'T' element in particular, I stand by my argument that biological science trumps "feelz". Recent sporting events back this up and are in fact both unfair and dangerous to women competitors.

The SNP obsession with these anti-scientific weirdos is worrying and shows where their priorities lie. They'll go the same way as New Labour if there isn't a clear out at the top.