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Scottish Independence Referendum 2


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Should Scotland be an independent country?  

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  1. 1. Should Scotland be an independent country?

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From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

 

I invite all unionists to name it and state why it is therefore best for us to stay in partnership with the English.

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7 hours ago, BrisDon said:

I could explain it but life’s too short so here’s a dildo instead you boring pedantic cunt. 
 

Probably best you stick to that level of engagement, as I doubt you even actually know what you mean, never mind have the ability to "explain" it. 

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7 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

Washing powder to tackle all those shitty sheets* you wash?

 

* In homage to RS

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9 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

 

I invite all unionists to name it and state why it is therefore best for us to stay in partnership with the English.

Tennents Lager?

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16 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

 

I invite all unionists to name it and state why it is therefore best for us to stay in partnership with the English.

Is it fresh water ? I believe there's more in Loch ness than the entire Village of England and their Welsh neighbours put together. They always run out every year too.

 

So im saying Fresh water

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11 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Probably best you stick to that level of engagement, as I doubt you even actually know what you mean, never mind have the ability to "explain" it. 

The funny thing is that you obviously think you’re pretty clever. 
 

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43 minutes ago, daytripping said:

We're merely a region of Great Britain, we live in a democracy. The other regions voted for them and they gain a majority. 

You need to add all the regions together to make a Country, this is basic stuff, I shouldn't have to spell out how a election works.

I'm really big on democracy, we said NO in 2014, that was our whole region. Why are people still crying about it, you lost. 

:clangers2: Ok i’ll spell it out to you Jeremy - first past the post system isnt very democratic.  

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48 minutes ago, daytripping said:

We're merely a region of Great Britain, we live in a democracy. The other regions voted for them and they gain a majority. 

You need to add all the regions together to make a Country, this is basic stuff, I shouldn't have to spell out how a election works.

I'm really big on democracy, we said NO in 2014, that was our whole region. Why are people still crying about it, you lost. 

You mean the No vote that was decided after the scaremongering that if we voted yes we would be out of the European Union?? How did that pan out! It’s the 100% reason tories won’t ever let us vote again despite a clear mandate 

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10 hours ago, Parklife said:

He's right, tbf. There's a quite a few Tory boys on here. Ranging from yer "shy Tory" like FFS, to yer enthusiastic culture war rager like NEM. 

A whole number of Tory's in between too. 

Dunno why Schap point that out makes him a "binary thinker" tbh. 

"culture war"

Phrase invented by the loony left to vilify anyone who says you can't change your gender etc,.  There is no "culture war", only folk stating basic facts.

PS: Holidays going well I see!  Tragic 😂

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41 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

 

I invite all unionists to name it and state why it is therefore best for us to stay in partnership with the English.

My 2nd guess - Whisky?

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1 hour ago, daytripping said:

Impossible without details. The vessel the trencher works from will burn £250k of diesel in the average trip to run your cable for starters before you even get to how much steel is in the windmill, steel can't be made without a lot of oil, are you going to cement it in? Need a lot of cement, to make cement you need oil. Plastics on the blades? need size of blades, they use a huge amount of oil. 

For how much oil do they need to run for a year, all depends on the size but average of 500 litres wouldn't be far away.

Concrete not cement. You can grow concrete. Self sustainable. 😎

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4HolzCclYY

 

Nice to see you focusing on a different kind of windmilling these days.

 

Fair play for answering. Thought you were at it.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, NEM said:

"culture war"

Phrase invented by the loony left to vilify anyone who says you can't change your gender etc,.  There is no "culture war", only folk stating basic facts.

PS: Holidays going well I see!  Tragic 😂

Thanks for proving me right. 

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49 minutes ago, CrazyBullSheep said:

Is it fresh water ? I believe there's more in Loch ness than the entire Village of England and their Welsh neighbours put together. They always run out every year too.

 

So im saying Fresh water

Best guess so far, and a great reason for them to stay with us not that they would admit it....

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1 hour ago, Redforever86 said:

From the next 5 years onwards there is only going to be one resource that is vastly in demand compared to all others, if you don't know what this is you shouldn't even be considering our status in the Union imo. 

 

I invite all unionists to name it and state why it is therefore best for us to stay in partnership with the English.

Love ?

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27 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

So a Coronation not a Competition for leadership! 

Just what the SNP need to reinvigorate their supporters and the country at large. A new FM with drive and vision and a new strategy from what we had previously.. oh hold on.... scrap that, another clone in the Sturgeon mold.

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Imagine Kate will  get a Cabinet post with that being the trade off of her not standing and causing further rifts in the party.

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1 hour ago, The Gee Man said:

So a Coronation not a Competition for leadership! 

Perhaps not a bad thing.

SNP are a party in transition right now. In both the upcoming General Election later this year and then the next Holyrood election due in almost exactly 2 years, they're highly likely to lose a fair number of seats, mostly to a resurgent Labour. Whether or not at Holyrood it's enough to stop them being the largest party in a for sure minority administration remains to be seen. But if Forbes was to be leader of the SNP immediately, she'd maybe get away with it in the GE as it being so close she wouldn't have enough time to change their fortunes in the interim. However being the leader at the Holyrood election and not ending up as First Minister would essentially be the end of her career at that level of politics (though she probably could still return to being a run-of-the-mill MSP for as long as she desires).

Letting Swinney see things through till then would the pragmatic thing to do for her. Swinney will be 62 by the time of that election. If he loses the SNP the First Ministership, you'd think he'd probably resign as leader (and possibly as an MSP completely fairly soon after that). If he leads the party to still being the largest party there....although the other parties could unite to deny him the First Ministership but it would mean Labour and the Tories uniting their votes to do so and then agreeing between themselves who to make FM so you'd think it unlikely......Swinney would serve at most 1 full term as FM before handing over the reigns at the 2031 election. And of course there is still the question of the health of his chronically ill wife who's likely to need more and more care as time progresses. If she worsens dramatically, he'd be unlikely to continue in any position at Holyrood never mind as FM.

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