Mr Brightside Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 If he went to them could easily be relegated to league 1 Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Fucking hell Adkins speaks in fucking riddles. What a slimy duplicitous shitbag Hull have for a manager. Embarrassing stuff. Link to comment
red donut Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 What is Mckenna worth? Personally, i wouldnt sell any promising youngster (and i mean all scottish clubs, except sevco) to engerlund for anything under 1m. If they realy want the player, pay the right fee. If they dont, we keep them for longer making them better players the clubs down south will come in with a realistic offer. We need to group together as a league and demand a 2018 fee and not be treated like this by clubs south of the border (except sevco) Link to comment
CalgaryDon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Considering we are debt free and aren't in a position to have to sell players along with the fees that other teams are selling young players for etc.. 3 million or move on. Just remember Hearts just sold Walker (prone to injuries) for 300k while he had 6 months left. McKenna is a greater talent with 4 years on his contract, a future Scotland International (not saying much) and potential captain. Andy Roberston was bought (by Hull City) for around 3 million playing for a lesser team. That bid from Hull is actually embarrassing. Have we as a club seriously developed a reputation for selling our players for peanuts. Frustrating to see clubs such Utd, Hibs, hearts and Motherwell sell their players for large amounts. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Considering we are debt free and aren't in a position to have to sell players along with the fees that other teams are selling young players for etc.. 3 million or move on. Just remember Hearts just sold Walker (prone to injuries) for 300k while he had 6 months left. McKenna is a greater talent with 4 years on his contract, a future Scotland International (not saying much) and potential captain. Andy Roberston was bought (by Hull City) for around 3 million playing for a lesser team. That bid from Hull is actually embarrassing. Have we as a club seriously developed a reputation for selling our players for peanuts. Frustrating to see clubs such Utd, Hibs, hearts and Motherwell sell their players for large amounts.Large amounts? Other than Armstrong, none of those clubs has sold anyone for a large amount recently. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 And the answer is its because they can turn players heads easily with huge wage increases. Link to comment
tup Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Large amounts? Other than Armstrong from those clubs had sold anyone for a large amount recently.Take the marbles out of your mooth min. 1 1 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Take the marbles out of your mooth min.Will do, wee man Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Considering we are debt free and aren't in a position to have to sell players along with the fees that other teams are selling young players for etc.. 3 million or move on. Just remember Hearts just sold Walker (prone to injuries) for 300k while he had 6 months left. McKenna is a greater talent with 4 years on his contract, a future Scotland International (not saying much) and potential captain. Andy Roberston was bought (by Hull City) for around 3 million playing for a lesser team. That bid from Hull is actually embarrassing. Have we as a club seriously developed a reputation for selling our players for peanuts. Frustrating to see clubs such Utd, Hibs, hearts and Motherwell sell their players for large amounts.I cant be bothered looking myself - who have Utd, hibs, hearts and Motherwell sold recently for large amounts? Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Fucking hell Adkins speaks in fucking riddles. What a slimy duplicitous shitbag Hull have for a manager. Embarrassing stuff.Never heard of him. Has he done anything of note during his existence? Link to comment
NEM Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I cant be bothered looking myself - who have Utd, hibs, hearts and Motherwell sold recently for large amounts? United sold Armstrong, Robertson and Gauld for millions, Hibs sold Brown, Thomson and some left back to Brum for £1.5 million (can't recall his name, Murphy maybe?). Hearts got £9 million for Gordon, £2 million for Driver. Ok none really that recent but the money in English football has (sickeningly) increased hugely since then so you could argue we should be demanding even more. Not sure about Motherwell? They just got £400 or £500k for Moult who was out of contract in the summer. Not a huge sum but still higher than Hulls insult of an offer Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 United sold Armstrong, Robertson and Gauld for millions, Hibs sold Brown, Thomson and some left back to Brum for £1.5 million (can't recall his name, Murphy maybe?). Hearts got £9 million for Gordon, £2 million for Driver. And then they all got relegated. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 United sold Armstrong, Robertson and Gauld for millions, Hibs sold Brown, Thomson and some left back to Brum for £1.5 million (can't recall his name, Murphy maybe?). Hearts got £9 million for Gordon, £2 million for Driver. Ok none really that recent but the money in English football has (sickeningly) increased hugely since then so you could argue we should be demanding even more. Not sure about Motherwell? They just got £400 or £500k for Moult who was out of contract in the summer. Not a huge sum but still higher than Hulls insult of an offerSo not recently for hearts and hibs? Funny fhat Link to comment
NEM Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 No none recently but as I said the money in England has increased big time since then. Tims have sold plenty for silly money Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 No none recently but as I said the money in England has increased big time since then. Tims have sold plenty for silly moneyThe money in English football has been ridiculous for years though. Part of the reason we havent sold players for a lot of money is that, well, the ones we have sold have been mostly shite! 1 Link to comment
CalgaryDon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I cant be bothered looking myself - who have Utd, hibs, hearts and Motherwell sold recently for large amounts? Dundee Utd sold David Goodwillie for over 3 million to Blackburn. Nadir Ciftci to Celtic for 1.9 million. Ryan Gauld to Sporting Lisbon for 2.5 million. Andy Roberston to HULL CITY for 3.3 million. Hibs only last year sold Jason Cummings (never scored a goal in Scottish top flight football) for over 1 million to Nottingham forest and John McGinn supposedly is going to be sold for several millions. Hearts sold Osman Sow for 1.8 million to HN Jianye. Hearts were going to sell Callum Paterson for over 1 million before his leg break - looking at newspaper articles of the time - near 2 million. St Johnstone sold Stevie May for 1 million to Sheff Wednesday. Kilmarnock received 1 million for Souleymane Coulibaly from Ahly. Hamilton sold Tony Andreu to Norwich for an estimated 1.3 million. Lee Hendrie to for 1.2 million to West Ham. James McCarthy to Everton for 1.2 million I'll give you this as this is pushing it but James McFadden sold to Everton for 1.3 million in 2003. I noticed we sold Fyvie for 500k and Ryan Fraser for 400k. That same year Hearts sold David Templeton for 900k. The Hayes fee to Celtic for 1.3 million is the highest fee we've ever received prior to that it was Russel Anderson to Sunderland for 1 million. As NEM pointed out that the money being spent on players has increased significantly even within the past 2 years. With that in mind, 300k for McKenna is shocking. 2 Link to comment
boboisared Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Dundee Utd sold David Goodwillie for over 3 million to Blackburn. Nadir Ciftci to Celtic for 1.9 million. Ryan Gauld to Sporting Lisbon for 2.5 million. Andy Roberston to HULL CITY for 3.3 million. Hibs only last year sold Jason Cummings (never scored a goal in Scottish top flight football) for over 1 million to Nottingham forest and John McGinn supposedly is going to be sold for several millions. Hearts sold Osman Sow for 1.8 million to HN Jianye. Hearts were going to sell Callum Paterson for over 1 million before his leg break - looking at newspaper articles of the time - near 2 million. St Johnstone sold Stevie May for 1 million to Sheff Wednesday. Kilmarnock received 1 million for Souleymane Coulibaly from Ahly. Hamilton sold Tony Andreu to Norwich for an estimated 1.3 million. Lee Hendrie to for 1.2 million to West Ham. James McCarthy to Everton for 1.2 million I'll give you this as this is pushing it but James McFadden sold to Everton for 1.3 million in 2003. I noticed we sold Fyvie for 500k and Ryan Fraser for 400k. That same year Hearts sold David Templeton for 900k. The Hayes fee to Celtic for 1.3 million is the highest fee we've ever received prior to that it was Russel Anderson to Sunderland for 1 million. As NEM pointed out that the money being spent on players has increased significantly even within the past 2 years. With that in mind, 300k for McKenna is shocking.Wasn't Jess to Coventry £1.2M? Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Dundee Utd sold David Goodwillie for over 3 million to Blackburn. Nadir Ciftci to Celtic for 1.9 million. Ryan Gauld to Sporting Lisbon for 2.5 million. Andy Roberston to HULL CITY for 3.3 million. Hibs only last year sold Jason Cummings (never scored a goal in Scottish top flight football) for over 1 million to Nottingham forest and John McGinn supposedly is going to be sold for several millions. Hearts sold Osman Sow for 1.8 million to HN Jianye. Hearts were going to sell Callum Paterson for over 1 million before his leg break - looking at newspaper articles of the time - near 2 million. St Johnstone sold Stevie May for 1 million to Sheff Wednesday. Kilmarnock received 1 million for Souleymane Coulibaly from Ahly. Hamilton sold Tony Andreu to Norwich for an estimated 1.3 million. Lee Hendrie to for 1.2 million to West Ham. James McCarthy to Everton for 1.2 million I'll give you this as this is pushing it but James McFadden sold to Everton for 1.3 million in 2003. I noticed we sold Fyvie for 500k and Ryan Fraser for 400k. That same year Hearts sold David Templeton for 900k. The Hayes fee to Celtic for 1.3 million is the highest fee we've ever received prior to that it was Russel Anderson to Sunderland for 1 million. As NEM pointed out that the money being spent on players has increased significantly even within the past 2 years. With that in mind, 300k for McKenna is shocking.A lot of these recent transfers seem to be a while ago. Goodwiilie to Blackburn?! 7 years ago Mccarthy went 9 years ago. I dont pay much attention, but what players have Hamilton sold recently? Andreu or whatever his name is was bought by Alex neil! Hearts were going to sell Paterson for millions, but didnt. Anyway, given how a lot of the players weve sold for peanuts have progressed, Id say weve not been done at all. Ryan fraser was mismanaged, the rest have turned out average Mckenna is worth a lot more than 300k, Ive never disagreed. I just dont think the players weve sold over the last few years have been very good. Hence the fees Link to comment
euan2020 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So not recently for hearts and hibs? Funny fhat Hibs not get 1M for Cummings ? Link to comment
CalgaryDon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Wasn't Jess to Coventry £1.2M? £2 million transfer to Coventry City and our Highest fee received in our club history. Link to comment
CalgaryDon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 A lot of these recent transfers seem to be a while ago. Goodwiilie to Blackburn?! 7 years ago Mccarthy went 9 years ago. I dont pay much attention, but what players have Hamilton sold recently? Andreu or whatever his name is was bought by Alex neil! Hearts were going to sell Paterson for millions, but didnt. Anyway, given how a lot of the players weve sold for peanuts have progressed, Id say weve not been done at all. Ryan fraser was mismanaged, the rest have turned out average Mckenna is worth a lot more than 300k, Ive never disagreed. I just dont think the players weve sold over the last few years have been very good. Hence the fees I actually agree, we haven't had any players worthy of a top fee. Although I do feel other clubs in our league (outside the OF) would command higher fees for our players. Having said that we are no longer in a position were we have to sell our players and so I expect us to only sell at the right price. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hibs not get 1M for Cummings ?No idea. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I actually agree, we haven't had any players worthy of a top fee. Although I do feel other clubs in our league (outside the OF) would command higher fees for our players. Having said that we are no longer in a position were we have to sell our players and so I expect us to only sell at the right price. We have a different mindset now. And better people surrounding the right arse chairman! Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have I missed that we've ACCEPTED a 300k bid for McKenna. If not why are we moaning about low fees. Link to comment
BWG Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 700K is what St Johnstone took for May. Ridiculous considering how excellent he was at that point. People seem to have valuations backwards. It's not what a player is worth to a guffy club, that's irrelevant. It's what a player is worth to us. In McKennas case thats potentially a Scottish Cup and the Europa groups. 3 million or fuck off. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If McKenna continues to progress for the remainder of the season he'll attract interest from better clubs than no marks like Hull. Link to comment
Zander1903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If McKenna continues to progress for the remainder of the season he'll attract interest from better clubs than no marks like Hull. aye it'll be up to £400k by the end of the season Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Optimist.Agreed. He'll be working in the Westhill Tesco by March. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 There is a key phrase in the McInnes statement End of the season Link to comment
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