mcdougall(4) Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 No but if they had another 500k they might be able to get off that shite they play on. Don't be a cunt all your days lad. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 There's no doubt that the AberDNA scheme has been great for the club (as was the main point) All the money raised has helped reduce the funding the club has to normally pay into the playing budget & use that money elsewhere lol. Guess the end of year financial results will be very well scrutinised by all (especially AberDNAers) to see if the playing budget has in fact increased, or stayed same, or even reduced. But I'm sure the club are very capable of disguising such things. Just hope whoever deals with the AberDNA scheme isn't taking a wee bonus from it for him/herself Maybe consiecanboogie can find out for us from thon milf he was obsessed with within the club Link to comment
Foster14 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 No but if they had another 500k they might be able to get off that shite they play on. Don't be a cunt all your days lad.To be honest, I only brought up Killie because it AberDNA was being held up as keeping us ahead of Hearts and Hibs. Seemed a bit far fetched to attribute that to it already... Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 It's pretty clear what the difference is. About half a million quid a year into the club by the end of each season. I think that is quite good. I wouldn't think you'd be able to draw conclusions or comparisons on player budgets until a couple of seasons have past.It'll have a bit of a cumulative affect over time as well hopefully. Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 It'll have a bit of a cumulative affect over time as well hopefully.Aye, hope so. I don't think this months DNA income is going to make a lot of difference to this months transfer dealings. I really think that some folk do. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 As far as I'm aware the plan was never to spunk the lot on transfer fees and wages. Just have to give it time. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Surely the plan was to spend it on football operations and surely it is easiest to disclose what that spend is in its first year. We will see come the end of the season. Link to comment
Arabian Knight Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 its gan towards mare media trainin fir McInnes.. n some fir docherty tae..so cunts cin say 'thi BAITH spik weel' Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Surely the plan was to spend it on football operations and surely it is easiest to disclose what that spend is in its first year. We will see come the end of the season.On football operations I think yes. But that doesn't = transfer fees and salaries Totally agree, it would be ideal if they broke down where all the money was spent every year. Link to comment
ebbe Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I wouldn't have a clue how much that sort of material would cost (I didn't realise people still needed to pay for porn in this day and age) so I'll bow to your superior knowledge on this subject mate.If you are paying £60 a month for that sort of thing may I suggest you shop around cos I think you're being ripped off.That’s a 10-8 round if ever I saw one. Link to comment
Scotty_Toronto Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just had DHL on the phone saying that they need to collect $23 (for customs) for the value of the AberDNA pack that they delivered in September. Some cheek considering it's now 2019 and that I picked up my jersey in person. Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Not had that phone call yet. Shove it ye bams. Surely the package wouldn’t be delivered unless any customs bill was paid first? Link to comment
Scotty_Toronto Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 They left it on my doorstep 5 months ago and are 'following up' now. (Good luck with that.) Link to comment
shut up meg Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Tell them it was nicked and they now owe you some money. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 So it is the mug thing then? Paying more for the same thing. I wouldn't do that anywhere else without due consideration so points back to my comment about taking fans for mugs and playing in their loyalties. To put it in another direction, Kilmarnock have not done anything similar yet seemed to have levelled the playing field with us. Therefore what does that extra £0.5m really mean? It means we take their best player off them midway through the season, via the Midlands Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 DNA going to be a one season wonder then? Quite a damning indictment on twatter considering there are over a thousand votes. Made quite the cunt of it by physically linking it to costly player acquisitions who may or obviously may not, turn out to be any good. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Think it will be a hard sell at the end of the year, if all they can come up with is an expensive disappointing loan spell and some GPS tracker vests. Throwing the funds away on a loan wasn't the wisest in the first year. The spent funds can't be argued to have a benefit over a period longer than the current year. If it had been used on a transfer fee or such like, at least it'd still have time to come good after initial disappointment (unless it was Forrester). My hope with it was that they'd go out and perhaps spend a bit of it on a young Scottish player building a bit of a reputation. A Kenny McLean type signing. Some of it allocated there, the rest on stuff like the tracker vests and I'd be tempted to continue. Some investment in the future. Instead it seems a considerable portion was splurged on a short term investment, not paying dividends. If that is an indication of where we are heading with it, then not sure I want to throw extra money at Aberdeen FC to then pay the wages of some English league reject on over-inflated wages in an over-sized squad. 1 Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 DNA going to be a one season wonder then? Quite a damning indictment on twatter considering there are over a thousand votes. Made quite the cunt of it by physically linking it to costly player acquisitions who may or obviously may not, turn out to be any good. Biggest mistake they made was holding up Wilson as the poster boy. 'We couldn't have made the transfer possible without DNA'. I think there was a strong expectancy that Wilson was going to be dynamite up here... Really disappointing, as the campaign was brilliant executed, until it came to actually using the funds! A guaranteed extra 600k per annum (or whatever it amounted to...) would be massive for this club. It is a pity, as who knows, maybe next season we'd have spent the money on an EPL loan who turns up and tears the SPFL apart. Very unlucky that Wilson and Forrester have been such disastrous signings. Even if they'd both been brilliant, we'd still have seen a drop in numbers, but it wouldn't have been so severe. Link to comment
minijc Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Did Dontron DHA after he was shown up by me with my exclusives? Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Think it will be a hard sell at the end of the year, if all they can come up with is an expensive disappointing loan spell and some GPS tracker vests. Throwing the funds away on a loan wasn't the wisest in the first year. The spent funds can't be argued to have a benefit over a period longer than the current year. If it had been used on a transfer fee or such like, at least it'd still have time to come good after initial disappointment (unless it was Forrester). My hope with it was that they'd go out and perhaps spend a bit of it on a young Scottish player building a bit of a reputation. A Kenny McLean type signing. Some of it allocated there, the rest on stuff like the tracker vests and I'd be tempted to continue. Some investment in the future. Instead it seems a considerable portion was splurged on a short term investment, not paying dividends. If that is an indication of where we are heading with it, then not sure I want to throw extra money at Aberdeen FC to then pay the wages of some English league reject on over-inflated wages in an over-sized squad. While it's not been advertised by the club (and quite rightly so if they have any ambition of continuing DNA) I believe Forrester was certainly funded by DNA money. Where else were we going to get 200k to spend on a transfer fee? It amazes me more hasn't been made of the Forrester debacle to be honest. It really stings. A club of our size cannot be tossing away 200k after 6 months! Link to comment
Foster14 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 While it's not been advertised by the club (and quite rightly so if they have any ambition of continuing DNA) I believe Forrester was certainly funded by DNA money. Where else were we going to get 200k to spend on a transfer fee? It amazes me more hasn't been made of the Forrester debacle to be honest. It really stings. A club of our size cannot be tossing away 200k after 6 months! We did get the Rooney fee. Don't think he was ever alluded to as being DNA related. I think Aberdeen want to appear to be a club that will pay some fees out of our standard budget, so not surprised he wasn't included. Link to comment
Redstar Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Well we had 400k to spend on May?Good to see the money's been spent wisely... Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Well we had 400k to spend on May? Foerster was nothing to do with DNA directly 600K on May & Forrester! Maybe Deeks shouldn't be allowed money! Link to comment
Foster14 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 You can't pin it purely on the Wilson costs though If we hadn't signed Ferguson, for example, more money would have been there for Wilson without the DNA money I'm only pointing to the two things that have been directly referred to being as a result of the scheme to raise funds purely for football activities. I think the kit is a good investment. I think Wilson was bad use of it. Not just the fact that he hasn't returned on the cost but: - He comes from a team that has got a huge squad of overpaid players, and they are taking us outside our comfort zone on wage contribution for a player (I would assume, given that this signing wouldn't have happened with out it supposedly)- Further to the above point, and this isn't Aberdeen's fault, but I don't like that I am paying extra because a club that makes £44m in operating profit last year, a lot of TV money etc, is hoarding average players and inflating the market of price for loanees- The last one is an Aberdeen thing. Unless the player on loan is a superstar that takes to an increased level of success (i.e. league win, European qualification), then the club is effectively throwing the extra money at a one season hit and hope. I don't think that is the wisest way to try and use that funding, especially to encourage re-investment. So in short, I don't think it is very good that Aberdeen have taken the extra money raised from DNA and wasted it on a loan that ultimately helps the bottom line of a club that doesn't give a fuck about what happens with the player that they have loaned out. 1 Link to comment
Foster14 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Well we had 400k to spend on May? Foerster was nothing to do with DNA directly Hayes cash for that one, I'd guess. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I'm only pointing to the two things that have been directly referred to being as a result of the scheme to raise funds purely for football activities. I think the kit is a good investment. I think Wilson was bad use of it. Not just the fact that he hasn't returned on the cost but: - He comes from a team that has got a huge squad of overpaid players, and they are taking us outside our comfort zone on wage contribution for a player (I would assume, given that this signing wouldn't have happened with out it supposedly)- Further to the above point, and this isn't Aberdeen's fault, but I don't like that I am paying extra because a club that makes £44m in operating profit last year, a lot of TV money etc, is hoarding average players and inflating the market of price for loanees- The last one is an Aberdeen thing. Unless the player on loan is a superstar that takes to an increased level of success (i.e. league win, European qualification), then the club is effectively throwing the extra money at a one season hit and hope. I don't think that is the wisest way to try and use that funding, especially to encourage re-investment. So in short, I don't think it is very good that Aberdeen have taken the extra money raised from DNA and wasted it on a loan that ultimately helps the bottom line of a club that doesn't give a fuck about what happens with the player that they have loaned out. It was bad PR. They should have kept their powder dry and used Ferguson as the poster boy after the tribunal. DNA allowing us to sign some of Scotland's best young talent on development fees keeping them out of the clutches of Parkhead, Ibrox and the overfunded English lower leagues etc. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 DNA going to be a one season wonder then? Quite a damning indictment on twatter considering there are over a thousand votes. Made quite the cunt of it by physically linking it to costly player acquisitions who may or obviously may not, turn out to be any good. A twitter poll, ran by a dons fan, where you have people who aren't DNA members voting in. Yup scientific as fuck that. 1 1 Link to comment
TheRock Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Think it's been explained poorly. People seemed to want/expect a signing that was made with 'DNA money'. Which is a bit silly as Wilson wasn't signed with DNA money any more than Shinnie is paid with season ticket money or GMS paid with TV money. But it's about perception. We want 1 star player, not a deeper squad. So Wilson has (rightly or wrongly) become the poster boy of 'DNA money'. Yeah, it hasn't so far worked out for him but hasn't it still done what it was supposed to do? Bring in players we wouldn't have otherwise got. Wilson didn't work out but that's (arguably) poor recruitment, it's not the concept of AberDNA at fault. Money allows us to bring in players, it doesn't guarantee they'll catch fire. And people are giving up after one? Will people be saying 'well, that's proven that AberDNA doesn't make a difference'. Unfortunately I suspect so. I just realised I don't really have a point I'm getting to. I think it's that it was never going to be possible that something would happen on the pitch that people could point to and say 'that's thanks to AberDNA, that's why I pay each month' but that's the expectation the club have to deal with. Link to comment
Mr John Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Yeah, it's intangible, we won't really be able to draw conclusions until season's end, at which point we, the members of the hat, will argue over those. For the record, I'd pay again to help my hometown club, because I'm not in any position to attend games regularly. (because I'm in prison for gluing dildos onto the car bonnets of my enemies) Link to comment
The Boofon Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Fair play to them for customer service. Ordered my free top as a 5-6 for the loon but it’s too big and as they’ve no 3-4 left they’re happy for me to swop for a jacket for him instead. Link to comment
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