Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, NEM said: * Your figure lumped single dose vaccinated in with unvaccinated so is completely misleading. Only runs to mid July as well. ** 67% of deaths in England up until 2 weeks back were double vaccinated so the “If you got double vacced you almost certainly didn't develop Covid” statement is false. Double vaccinated carry the same viral load as unvaccinated according to the latest studies from the CDC and Oxford. Case numbers and deaths are multiple times higher now than the corresponding time last year (pre vaccination) *** There is no case for vaccine passports * There's nothing misleading about it. The plan with the first two to market, Pfizer and Moderna, was always that you needed two shots. I don't know of anyone who was unaware of this. ** As shown by the article I linked, there's nothing false about my statement. *** Aside from the public health concern Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, RedArmyFakshun said: Interesting that in Israel, if you ain't down for the booster, your no longer considered fully vaxxed This is in response to 90% of their hospitalisations now being double vaxxed Turns out their studies show that vaccine efficiency only lasts a few months So while Iceland and Denmark have said, no more, we're done with this The Jock Reich will be preparing to enact the israeli double down response All that shit they spouted about adopting the "nordic model"... Authoritarian hucksters, and its time we booted them out the park https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/third-shot-provides-significant-boost-covid-19-immunity-180978611/ Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 If we trim the fat from all this bullshit. If you're against Sturgis can you even call yourself a man. Beer, whisky, music, large capacity engines and wet t shirt competitions. What have we become. Link to comment
NEM Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Just now, Ke1t said: * There's nothing misleading about it. The plan with the first two to market, Pfizer and Moderna, was always that you needed two shots. I don't know of anyone who was unaware of this. ** As shown by the article I linked, there's nothing false about my statement. *** Aside from the public health concern * Are we classing single jabbed as unvaccinated? Does it offer no protection? ** Wrong you claimed 98% of hospitalisations and deaths were unvaccinated. Setting aside the single dose argument that was still false From your link ”Unvaccinated individuals also made up the majority of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths. Between Jan. 15 and July 21, 95% of COVID-19 hospitalizations were unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated individuals, DHHS said.” *** The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission so the vaccine passport does nothing to alleviate the public health concern Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: Not the case.Iceland .Just one month after the government scrapped all covid-19 restrictions, masks, social distancing and capacity limits have returned. didn't realise they'd turned tail so their vaccines aren't working either its all a waste of time Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, cheesepipes said: If we trim the fat from all this bullshit. If you're against Sturgis can you even call yourself a man. Beer, whisky, music, large capacity engines and wet t shirt competitions. What have we become. That's certainly the illusion. I know a few cunts who make the trip to Sturgis. You'll find manlier men at a transgender Emo gig for 400lb handicapped lesbian feminists, in reality. ? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, NEM said: * Are we classing single jabbed as unvaccinated? Does it offer no protection? ** Wrong you claimed 98% of hospitalisations and deaths were unvaccinated. Setting aside the single dose argument that was still false From your link ”Unvaccinated individuals also made up the majority of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths. Between Jan. 15 and July 21, 95% of COVID-19 hospitalizations were unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated individuals, DHHS said.” *** The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission so the vaccine passport does nothing to alleviate the public health concern * The vaccine is two jabs (Moderna and Pfizer). you're not fully covered until you have the two shots. Again... there's no-one who doesn't know this. ** No, it's correct. *** The unvaccinated are going to suffer serious symptoms far more often than the vaccinated. If you have thousands of unvacced gathering many more than vacced will get seriously ill, putting a burden on the health care system, ergo that's a public health concern,. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: I hope they all get Covid and die Fash bastards If you could allow yourself to be a hot bloodied male for a short period of time you'd see how much more fun life could be instead of worrying about grub eating Africans and rich billionaires flying into space. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Ke1t said: That's certainly the illusion. I know a few cunts who make the trip to Sturgis. You'll find manlier men at a transgender Emo gig for 400lb handicapped lesbian feminists, in reality. ? Thats not true and you bloody well know it. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Just now, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: I have fun. I don't think I'd have much fun there. A bunch obese guys in leather trousers with handlebar taches preying on their angel dust hookers. Sounds like a pile of Yankee Doodle shite Where do you have this thing you call fun. Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Apparently Sturgis is twin-towned with Sitges, the gay toon just outside Barcelona Link to comment
NEM Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ke1t said: * The vaccine is two jabs (Moderna and Pfizer). you're not fully covered until you have the two shots. Again... there's no-one who doesn't know this. ** No, it's correct. *** The unvaccinated are going to suffer serious symptoms far more often than the vaccinated. If you have thousands of unvacced gathering many more than vacced will get seriously ill, putting a burden on the health care system, ergo that's a public health concern,. *Not full covered doesn’t equal the unvaccinated ** 98% doesn’t equal 95% *** The numbers in the UK don’t back that up but if they did are we applying the same rules to OAPs, fat cunts or smokers? A 70 year old, double vaccinated, 20 stone smoker is going to suffer serious symptoms far more often than the young and healthy unvaccinated. Where’s the public health concern there? Clear double standard Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 minute ago, cheesepipes said: Thats not true and you bloody well know it. Harleys are fucking expensive. Many of the guys who ride Harleys are rich old cunts, because they can afford to ride Harleys. And they go to Sturgis. Sure, you'll see the chicks with their tits out, riding the mechanical bull, and a few of the younger lads whooping for the cameras... but there's also the guys taking their diabetes and heart meds, trying not to die from the heat, and getting into hilarious fat old man slap fights when they've had one too many 2.5% ABV beers. The illusion they want to feed you is a guy riding a tiger as a pair of massive titted slutties suck his cock to the sound of DIO. Instead it's the sound of old folks expiring... to the sound of DIO. ? Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The biggest betrayal is no acknowledgement of natural immunity via prior infection and no easy access to T-Cell tests to prove it there's a reason the cunts do this, and it isn't fucking science Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, NEM said: *Not full covered doesn’t equal the unvaccinated ** 98% doesn’t equal 95% *** The numbers in the UK don’t back that up but if they did are we applying the same rules to OAPs, fat cunts or smokers? A 70 year old, double vaccinated, 20 stone smoker is going to suffer serious symptoms far more often than the young and healthy unvaccinated. Where’s the public health concern there? Clear double standard Go to many gigs, do they? Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Pubs, folks houses, aifter parties, ken. Was having lots of fun last Saturday, got bored of the pub I was in (college) and got a kebab and went hame. Belter kip as well. So much fun. Not a wet t shirt competition in sight. Rubbish. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: If you spill a beer on a fat guy you might see some tits Whatever turns you on. Im into bitches. Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Of all the great bands this nation has produced but thats not a long list the sensational alex harvey band cant think of many others Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, NEM said: 98%? Where about? 33% in England according to this How many double-jabbed people are dying from COVID? (yahoo.com) Why are UK Covid cases 30 times higher and Covid deaths 10 times higher this August than August last year if the vaccine is slowing the spread? Fuckin hell. Do you need that answered? A few differences from this time last year to now to say the least. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 From a totally selfish point of view; IF (big if) this stops a lockdown for the majority who got the vaccine then fuck it, I’m for passports. Probably isn’t morally right but fuck it, could argue it’s selfish not getting the vaccine which results in punishment for the majority. Not sure I would agree with that but it’s not a terrible point. See yous at Hampden (most of yous). Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: A night of booze and other things await me. Might be a late one. TBQH my work is boring as fuck even when it's "busy" and folk don't leave you in peace to read books, so I sit about on here honing my skills for when I'm elected as an MSP and I can get the lot of you thrown in jail. A 6 minute speech as an MSP will be a piece of piss for you based on today, Consi . 1 Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: It's a weird Glasgow uni accent but they are from Ayrshire. Same place. Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, RedArmyFakshun said: but thats not a long list the sensational alex harvey band cant think of many others The Almighty Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I feel like I want to just post this picture of the Sturgis crowd... just in case there was any remaining illusion that it's some sort of metal celebration of rugged, fecund manliness @cheesepipes ?? More white hair than a polar bear's fanny. Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, DelMonte said: IF (big if) this stops a lockdown for the majority who got the vaccine then fuck it, I’m for passports. you're right to express doubt because of course there wil be another lockdown it will be blamed in the unvaccinated to enact one great big peer bully push to get the remainder onto the jab humanity trying to vaccinate their way out of a viral pandemic is like a junky being against dope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement Link to comment
cheesepipes Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I could counter post but whats the point. Link to comment
RedArmyFakshun Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, cheesepipes said: I could counter post but whats the point. its a far cry from Sonny Barger and Hunter Thompson like everything in life its a question of degree there will be proper gents at Sturgis and a few thousand graying boomers hanging onto a scene they barely belong to Link to comment
Parklife Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, manboobs109 said: There is no hard evidence the vaccines slow transmission. There's loads of studies done that show they do: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/mounting-evidence-suggests-covid-vaccines-do-reduce-transmission-how-does-work https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1112 Link to comment
Parklife Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, DelMonte said: Fuckin hell. Do you need that answered? A few differences from this time last year to now to say the least. He keeps repeating it as well. Genuinely thinks he's making a good point. Link to comment
NEM Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, DelMonte said: Fuckin hell. Do you need that answered? A few differences from this time last year to now to say the least. Such as? Restrictions were only fully lifted a few weeks back. July's figures are way higher than 2020 also Link to comment
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