Proposed new stadium, by Aberdeen beach

[Redtaz2]

Thanks for clarification ten caat 

[dazzy_deff]

4 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

We've got "grandfather" rights which allow us to play the ties at Pittodrie despite it not meeting the current criteria.

For now, that position holds but there's bound to be a point down the line where UEFA will call time on all the grounds that don't come up to spec and put a time limit on either upgrading them to meet the standards or build a new stadium..........or face having ties moved to grounds that do comply

Doubtful. Pretty sure Anfield also has grandfather rights and will never be able to comply due to pitch size. I may be wrong with it being Anfield but definitely one of the big guns who UEFA wouldnt dare evict to a different stadium for European games.

[Dunty]

6 hours ago, Andy_123 said:

We could start building a stadium at Kingsford tomorrow if we wanted to

No we couldn't. Planning permission was granted with conditions, such as building new roads, widening footpaths, building a bridge and fuck knows what else.

1 hour ago, dazzy_deff said:

Doubtful. Pretty sure Anfield also has grandfather rights and will never be able to comply due to pitch size. I may be wrong with it being Anfield but definitely one of the big guns who UEFA wouldnt dare evict to a different stadium for European games.

Grandfather rights are removed as soon as you rebuild a stand. 

Liverpool didn't rebuild the Anfield Road end, they left lower deck and have just expanded it.

That means the grandfather rights remain. However, it's not Uefa compliant which is why Anfield isn't eligible to be part of the U.K. Euro 2028 bid.

Same with Hearts. The new main stand had to comply but the rest of the stadium is fine.

For Aberdeen, if they could build a second tier on top of the Merkland, main or south stands (they can't) they could keep the pitch dimensions as they are. However, as soon as they knock one down, they need to rebuild to Uefa regulations, which if they did would significantly reduce the capacity. 

[DD1903]

10 hours ago, TerryMcDermott said:

I think Dundee are looking at a fee standing stadium. We’re looking at being part of a larger development which sadly means we work at the councils pace. 

It isn't the council that's holding things up with this...it's Dave, who is arguing over who pays for the stadium.

[Andy_123]

7 hours ago, Dunty said:

No we couldn't. Planning permission was granted with conditions, such as building new roads, widening footpaths, building a bridge and fuck knows what else. 

“Planning permission was granted” means we can start building anytime if we want. The stadium can be built at the same time as the other conditions the council imposed

[The Gee Man]

Has the two options been recosted now with the huge rise in building materials/labour etc? New stadium to a complete refurb of Pittodrie 

[zeroisgod76]

14 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

Has the two options been recosted now with the huge rise in building materials/labour etc? New stadium to a complete refurb of Pittodrie 

Staying at Pittodrie long term will never be an option.

[NEM]

10 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Staying at Pittodrie long term will never be an option.

Yet that's exactly what has happened and will continue to happen until most if not all of us are in a box.

[zeroisgod76]

33 minutes ago, NEM said:

Yet that's exactly what has happened and will continue to happen until most if not all of us are in a box.

As Dunty explained a few posts back. As soon as we reach the stage that we need to redevelop stands at PIttodrie (which lets be honest based on the crumbling wreck the stadium is won't be too far away) we will then need to meet current UEFA regulations which based on the footprint of the stadium would greatly reduce capacity. Forget about all the fuck ups in the past, anyone that thinks Pittodrie ia a long term oprion is kidding themselves.

[NEM]

7 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

As Dunty explained a few posts back. As soon as we reach the stage that we need to redevelop stands at PIttodrie (which lets be honest based on the crumbling wreck the stadium is won't be too far away) we will then need to meet current UEFA regulations which based on the footprint of the stadium would greatly reduce capacity. Forget about all the fuck ups in the past, anyone that thinks Pittodrie ia a long term oprion is kidding themselves.

Just as anyone who thinks we are moving any time soon is a gullible moon rocket.  25 years they've been on about moving for now - how's the new build stadium coming along?

[strachanmcgheegoal]

11 hours ago, dazzy_deff said:

Doubtful. Pretty sure Anfield also has grandfather rights and will never be able to comply due to pitch size. I may be wrong with it being Anfield but definitely one of the big guns who UEFA wouldnt dare evict to a different stadium for European games.

You could see UEFA's direction of travel at Newcastle last night (although Ive no idea the eligibility or otherwise of St J Park specifically).  All Tifos, hyped passion and spectacle.  Football was really an optional extra although fair play they grabbed it with both hands.

[dave_min]

7 minutes ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

You could see UEFA's direction of travel at Newcastle last night (although Ive no idea the eligibility or otherwise of St J Park specifically).  All Tifos, hyped passion and spectacle.  Football was really an optional extra although fair play they grabbed it with both hands.

They had an impressive (but completely) soulless drone display over St James earlier in the week too.

[robbojunior]

2 hours ago, Andy_123 said:

“Planning permission was granted” means we can start building anytime if we want. The stadium can be built at the same time as the other conditions the council imposed

Not if they are pre-commencement conditions.

You need to submit applications to discharge conditions and the council take fucking ages to determine those.  So, assuming there are some pre-commencement conditions, no they can't start building until they are discharged.

[caledonia]

The economic climate is not right for them/council that imo is why its stalled.

council wont help either and be as awkward as possible.

[The Gee Man]

1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Staying at Pittodrie long term will never be an option.

Why? Because you are told that, exactly why I asked the question about a refurb now

[zeroisgod76]

Just now, The Gee Man said:

Why? Because you are told that, exactly why I asked the question about a refurb now

Its been explained numerous times, it doesn't need explained again.

[zeroisgod76]

47 minutes ago, NEM said:

Just as anyone who thinks we are moving any time soon is a gullible moon rocket.  25 years they've been on about moving for now - how's the new build stadium coming along?

It may not be 'any time soon' but it will happen. We have people running the club now who will find a way to make it happen. For 20 of those 25 years we had Stewart Milne running the club, it's no wonder there was one failure after another regarding the new stadium.

[JumboJET]

Just renovate Todders FFS. 

No reason they can't do it stand-by-stand. (Starting with the Merkland)

[BaaBaaRedSheep]

Wherever the new stadium ends up (Kingsford, Beach, existing site or AN Other site) the time for talking the talk needs to be over and Cormack and Co need to start walking the walk.

Don't even care if Cormack ultimately names the stadium after his grandchildren, just begin the process Dave min?

If we could at least observe works starting on site prep that would certainly be a boost.

At this rate we'll be still talking about a new stadium when Dave's grandchildren have grandchildren. 

Deeds not words is what we need. 

[Tommy]

21 minutes ago, JumboJET said:

Just renovate Todders FFS. 

No reason they can't do it stand-by-stand. (Starting with the Merkland)

Todders. FFS.

[Betty Swallicks]

1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

It may not be 'any time soon' but it will happen. We have people running the club now who will find a way to make it happen. For 20 of those 25 years we had Stewart Milne running the club, it's no wonder there was one failure after another regarding the new stadium.

The new owners who you claim will make it happen have no intention (as they're not fucking clueless and/or teuchters) to move to Kingsford. 

Pleasing! 😊

[zeroisgod76]

Just now, Betty Swallicks said:

The new owners who you claim will make it happen have no intention (as they're not fucking clueless and/or teuchters) to move to Kingsford. 

Pleasing! 😊

They will move to a new stadium though one way or another and the way things are going Kingsford may be the only option.

[Betty Swallicks]

2 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

They will move to a new stadium though one way or another and the way things are going Kingsford may be the only option.

Convince yersel min. 

[zeroisgod76]

Just now, Betty Swallicks said:

Convince yersel min. 

If it ends up not being at the beach for whatever reason then where else in the city is a suitable site for a new stadium?

[dave_min]

7 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

If it ends up not being at the beach for whatever reason then where else in the city is a suitable site for a new stadium?

Broadford Works.

Next?

[Tommy]

8 minutes ago, dave_min said:

 

Next?

Berryden or Union Square?

 

[zeroisgod76]

4 minutes ago, dave_min said:

Broadford Works.

Next?

 

Just now, Tommy said:

Berryden or Union Square?

 

Realistic options 🤣

[dave_min]

52 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Berryden or Union Square?

 

I’m more a Bon Accord man myself

[Ramandu]

2 hours ago, JumboJET said:

Just renovate Todders FFS. 

No reason they can't do it stand-by-stand. (Starting with the Merkland)

Are you dropping the character then jumbo?

Thanks,

Ramandu

[The Gee Man]

2 hours ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Its been explained numerous times, it doesn't need explained again.

But you like repeating the same thing normally