Stevdon1962 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Mcgrath will be here on loan next season barely getting any game time at wigan Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, Stevdon1962 said: Mcgrath will be here on loan next season barely getting any game time at wigan He can fuck right off He had his chance. Twice Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, Stevdon1962 said: Mcgrath will be here on loan next season barely getting any game time at wigan we dodged a bullet there i think Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: He can fuck right off He had his chance. Twice I don’t disagree but wouldn’t rule it out if (as I suspect) we try & fail to loan Ronan Link to comment
torry_battery_ram Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 hours ago, BonnieDon said: JET, Lewis, Considine, Ramirez, Ojo, McGeouch, Woods, McLennan and McKenzie can all leave. Hopefully Gunn and Mowbray have been busy this past 10 months and have identified some good players. Can't remember the last time we had a decent window. Why stop at just them? There's several more who should be joining that list Link to comment
starryfish Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Stevdon1962 said: Mcgrath will be here on loan next season barely getting any game time at wigan More chance of another arrival from Wigan…. Link to comment
mutant Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Aye Shinnie hasn’t played much. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 hours ago, BonnieDon said: JET, Lewis, Considine, Ramirez, Ojo, McGeouch, Woods, McLennan and McKenzie can all leave. Hopefully Gunn and Mowbray have been busy this past 10 months and have identified some good players. Can't remember the last time we had a decent window. 6 of that list have contracts of varying length that need paid off. It would be the guts of £1m to pay them up. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: 100% unless Cormack backs Goodwin very substantially in summer (& does so early in window) the fans will be leaving in droves. The complacency that has set in continuously since the joke appointment of Glass has only increased week on week & will soon (if not already) be at an irreversible extent for many. Cormack (for all the good he’s done off field for the club) has massively contributed to serious damage on it & the fans (for most part) only really care about the on field stuff. Snake Oil Salesman needs to dip into his/clubs coffers to win back his previous gratefulness from fans. I for one cannot stand Cormack at the moment for the damage he’s done. Even given his previous generosity. It's not just backing Goodwin with money for new players he needs to do. He also needs to back him when it comes to players he doesn't want. The likes of JET, Woods etc. Other clubs won't want shite like thwt so Cormack will need to stump up to get shot of them Link to comment
thurso Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 18 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: I've got bad news for you then. Gunn has absolutely zero credentials or background to be able to identify footballing talent. Is it gunns job to identify footballing talent. Surely that’s mowburys job it’s then gunns job to go out and do the negotiating to get them here Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, thurso said: Is it gunns job to identify footballing talent. Surely that’s mowburys job it’s then gunns job to go out and do the negotiating to get them here Aye. That's exactly what I said earlier Link to comment
ullevi Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I would imagine Gunn doesn’t identify any of the players, Mowbray would be doing this with the rest of the scouts and then Gunn will negotiate wages terms and conditions to get them in the door. Far to many people quick to criticise Gunn when they don’t understand the system in place at the club. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, ullevi said: I would imagine Gunn doesn’t identify any of the players, Mowbray would be doing this with the rest of the scouts and then Gunn will negotiate wages terms and conditions to get them in the door. Far to many people quick to criticise Gunn when they don’t understand the system in place at the club. I’m not aware of anyone who’s criticised Gunn for the players brought in? Link to comment
super_al Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, ullevi said: I would imagine Gunn doesn’t identify any of the players, Mowbray would be doing this with the rest of the scouts and then Gunn will negotiate wages terms and conditions to get them in the door. Far to many people quick to criticise Gunn when they don’t understand the system in place at the club. Mowbray and Goodwin report to Gunn, so he has ultimate accountability. Gunn is failing if the others reporting to him fails. Link to comment
Hoofball Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, ullevi said: I would imagine Gunn doesn’t identify any of the players, Mowbray would be doing this with the rest of the scouts and then Gunn will negotiate wages terms and conditions to get them in the door. Far to many people quick to criticise Gunn when they don’t understand the system in place at the club. The part in bold is the reason everyone has a problem with Gunn Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, ullevi said: I would imagine Gunn doesn’t identify any of the players, Mowbray would be doing this with the rest of the scouts and then Gunn will negotiate wages terms and conditions to get them in the door. Far to many people quick to criticise Gunn when they don’t understand the system in place at the club. Regardless if anyone/everyone understands the ‘system’ that is in place. It is fairly safe to say the ‘system’ is pretty shite or those using it are. Especially in the first couple of attempts last two windows. find as many shite wage thief’s as you can pls. ok here you go, here’s a list thanks, I’ll now throw a shit ton of cash at this wonder list of wage thief’s you have sourced & we can all pay each other’s backs on a job well planned/executed Link to comment
Millertime Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 1:36 PM, AllyDon said: This. Crazy decision if they don't allow him to move into coaching. How, is he a good coach? Link to comment
DieHardDon Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Millertime said: How, is he a good coach? You'd like to think after playing at the level he has played at, for the length of time he has, he'd be able to impart a few more pearls of wisdom compared to those who just go through a coaching academy. That said, there is little room for sentiment if we want to drag ourselves out the mire. Get those best suited for the job in and leave sentiment at the door. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, DieHardDon said: You'd like to think after playing at the level he has played at, for the length of time he has, he'd be able to impart a few more pearls of wisdom compared to those who just go through a coaching academy. That said, there is little room for sentiment if we want to drag ourselves out the mire. Get those best suited for the job in and leave sentiment at the door. Plenty of players have played at a higher level than him and been pish poor coaches etc. Link to comment
redone Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, DD1903 said: Plenty of players have played at a higher level than him and been pish poor coaches etc. Yup, entirely different skillsets required for being a good player/keeper on one hand and being a good coach on the other. And plenty players who have no interest in going into coaching. So unless someone ITK has personal information about Lewis’ thoughts about coaching (and continuing to live in this area), it’s a completely pointless exercise touting him for a coaching gig with us. 1 Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 what's the list of transfer targets in the fans view then? Regan Charles-Cook? Zander Clark? Connor Ronan? Graeme Shinnie? Lawrence Shankland? Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: what's the list of transfer targets in the fans view then? Regan Charles-Cook? Zander Clark? Connor Ronan? Graeme Shinnie? Lawrence Shankland? RCC would be fine Clark isn't much better than Lewis IMO. Ronan would be decent, might be outwith our budget Shinnie was good first time, dont want him to have a tainted return like McGinn Shankland is shite at our level, if he's replacing JET fair enough but not Ramirez. Link to comment
starryfish Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: what's the list of transfer targets in the fans view then? Regan Charles-Cook? Zander Clark? Connor Ronan? Graeme Shinnie? Lawrence Shankland? Jack Tucker? Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: what's the list of transfer targets in the fans view then? Regan Charles-Cook? Zander Clark? Connor Ronan? Graeme Shinnie? Lawrence Shankland? RCC.....no evidence that he isn't just a one season wonder. He's been underwhelming to say the least everywhere else he's been and was shyte last season at County. I don't buy into the excuse he used for it either. I've a nasty suspicion this one might be happening though. Clark......Better than Lewis for sure. I'd be happy enough with him but equally sure there are plenty other options throughout Europe that would be an upgrade on JL that won't break the bank either. Ronan......of the choices here I think he's the one offering the best quality. Supposedly available for £500k but if 2 or 3 clubs are interested it becomes a bidding war and I doubt we'd go much higher in view of how big a rebuild we have on our hands. Shinnie......thanks for the memories. No to a return Shankland.......decent in the Championship with United. Has failed with us, United and now in Belgium whenever he's played in the top division. Draw your own conclusions Link to comment
mainstandmoan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: RCC.....no evidence that he isn't just a one season wonder. He's been underwhelming to say the least everywhere else he's been and was shyte last season at County. I don't buy into the excuse he used for it either. I've a nasty suspicion this one might be happening though. Clark......Better than Lewis for sure. I'd be happy enough with him but equally sure there are plenty other options throughout Europe that would be an upgrade on JL that won't break the bank either. Ronan......of the choices here I think he's the one offering the best quality. Supposedly available for £500k but if 2 or 3 clubs are interested it becomes a bidding war and I doubt we'd go much higher in view of how big a rebuild we have on our hands. Shinnie......thanks for the memories. No to a return Shankland.......decent in the Championship with United. Has failed with us, United and now in Belgium whenever he's played in the top division. Draw your own conclusions Update Formal bid made for Charles Dunne, £200K Interest in Cove Rangers left back, Harry Milne. Ojo, McGeouch, Considine contracts not being renewed (expect official statement this week). Campbell, JET, Woods, McLennan and Joe Lewis told they are free to find other clubs. Ramirez formally requested move back to US. Langfield not an option for goalkeeping coach as he doesn't hold a proper licence. He's able to work with ST Mirren first team as their youth goalkeeping coach has a licence. New shirt sponsor likely to be 3 different sponsors, front, back and sleeves. Rob Wicks tasked with finding large blue chip replacement for Saltire. Fail. Local companies now involved. 3 3 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, mainstandmoan said: Update Formal bid made for Charles Dunne, £200K Interest in Cove Rangers left back, Harry Milne. Ojo, McGeouch, Considine contracts not being renewed (expect official statement this week). Campbell, JET, Woods, McLennan and Joe Lewis told they are free to find other clubs. Ramirez formally requested move back to US. Langfield not an option for goalkeeping coach as he doesn't hold a proper licence. He's able to work with ST Mirren first team as their youth goalkeeping coach has a licence. New shirt sponsor likely to be 3 different sponsors, front, back and sleeves. Rob Wicks tasked with finding large blue chip replacement for Saltire. Fail. Local companies now involved. £200k for Charles Dunne would be absolute lunacy. Link to comment
torry_battery_ram Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: £200k for Charles Dunne would be absolute lunacy. So would a move for Harry Milne. No way he's good enough for the Scottish Premiership Link to comment
Tord31 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 mainstandmoan shouting that Consi will leave.... thats a balls out move. The next Harry Ingolsson 1 Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, mainstandmoan said: Update Formal bid made for Charles Dunne, £200K Interest in Cove Rangers left back, Harry Milne. Ojo, McGeouch, Considine contracts not being renewed (expect official statement this week). Campbell, JET, Woods, McLennan and Joe Lewis told they are free to find other clubs. Ramirez formally requested move back to US. Langfield not an option for goalkeeping coach as he doesn't hold a proper licence. He's able to work with ST Mirren first team as their youth goalkeeping coach has a licence. New shirt sponsor likely to be 3 different sponsors, front, back and sleeves. Rob Wicks tasked with finding large blue chip replacement for Saltire. Fail. Local companies now involved. Jesus. Goodwin doing St Mirren a massive favour there. If we are spending money this season then 200k of it should not be going on Dunne who has spent a fair chunk of the season injured. Surprised McLennan has been told he can go. Seemed to be getting more time on the pitch under Goodwin but not that i disagree with it because he shouldn't have been given his last extension. Not sure i see the point in going after a young LB when we already have 1 who's been getting very good reviews at Kelty? Would rather give him a go. Never did Barron any harm did it? Ramirez wanting to leave was always on the cards after Glass and Russell getting the bullet. No news on the 2 players we are speaking to from the foreign markets? Link to comment
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