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1 hour ago, maryhilldon said:

British politicians need to be programmed by their Israeli handlers. We do send them a shit load of 'aid' after all.

Starmer's either paid off or compromised by Israel. 

Doesn't matter which, he should be unelectable now. 

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Hope none of you have been falling for bbc propaganda RE Alexei Navalny. Remember the truth - he was polling less than 1% and he was a known fascist. 
 

hardly the great and decent opposition the bbc need you to believe 

 

 

putin isn’t any better or worse than Biden/ trump. Trump is definitely the most peaceful of the three though

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2 hours ago, Don Fonte said:

A dangerous cunt.  Not to be trusted, like the rest of that lot.

I'm genuinely waiting for him to order an attack on the supplies getting in through the US-made dock. 

Or a direct attack on the dock itself. 

Be interesting to see what happens if he dares the US to do a fucking thing. 

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7 hours ago, maryhilldon said:

British politicians need to be programmed by their Israeli handlers. We do send them a shit load of 'aid' after all.

 

7 hours ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Hence why Corbyn could not become leader 

People with principals/morals are not aloud 

Israel make the papers/news spew shite for folk like @manboobs109to fall for 😉

 

6 hours ago, Ke1t said:

Starmer's either paid off or compromised by Israel. 

Doesn't matter which, he should be unelectable now. 

You boys really are losing it with all your Jew stuff.

Too much social media.

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Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Zionism is the dark manifestation of extreme psychopathy hijacking, parasiting from, and hiding behind, Judaism. The vice-like grip controlling "Western" politics and their puppet mouthpieces via the likes of AIPAC and "Friends Of Israel" groups in every mainstream political party.

 

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8 hours ago, Poodler said:

Labour should really be steamrolling this election but it’s not a foregone conclusion anymore as he’s just pathetic. A new/ third party could really make a dent in labours’ potential majority 

They'll 'win' but I don't think they'll get a majority.

Hung Parliament Redz

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23 hours ago, Poodler said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68591663
 

 

israel won’t allow Starmer to let Abbot back in for daring to suggest anyone had suffered more than Jews. 
 

Abbot is labour TnT. Starmer is making himself and the party look meek and pathetic by adhering to this ridiculous charade.


 

 

The comment that pompous cunt Frank Hester said in relation to Diane Abbott; the ignorance afforded to her in Parliament last week; along with Keir Starmer's failure to defend her unequivocally and restore the whip to Abbott as a show of solidarity, has inadvertently played right into the Tories hands. 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

The comment that pompous cunt Frank Hester said in relation to Diane Abbott; the ignorance afforded to her in Parliament last week; along with Keir Starmer's failure to defend her unequivocally and restore the whip to Abbott as a show of solidarity, has inadvertently played right into the Tories hands. 

 

 

 

Nah. The swing voters that Labour need to attract love it. It's precisely the sort of thing that has led to Labour being absolutely miles ahead in the polling and the new ones out today are even more favourable towards Starmer's barmy army. Is it a left wing Labour, no. Is it a socialist Labour, definitely not but a socialist labour has never been elected and never would be so what's the point. They're slightly left of centre. So still marginally better than some of the more moderate Tories and far preferable to the right wing Tories that are trying desperately hard to take control of the party. Compromise and learning not to see everything as either black or white is required. 

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1 hour ago, DeltaRay1903 said:

Nah. The swing voters that Labour need to attract love it. It's precisely the sort of thing that has led to Labour being absolutely miles ahead in the polling and the new ones out today are even more favourable towards Starmer's barmy army. Is it a left wing Labour, no. Is it a socialist Labour, definitely not but a socialist labour has never been elected and never would be so what's the point. They're slightly left of centre. So still marginally better than some of the more moderate Tories and far preferable to the right wing Tories that are trying desperately hard to take control of the party. Compromise and learning not to see everything as either black or white is required. 

Aye, that's a very fair summary min. If only the current Labour leader (not so much the party) was more true to the values of which the party was founded, the next General Election would be a landslide victory.

I am not a believer in what the polls say though. It's what actually what happens on GE day, in terms of votes cast as well as the postal votes made, that count. 

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30 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Aye, that's a very fair summary min. If only the current Labour leader (not so much the party) was more true to the values of which the party was founded, the next General Election would be a landslide victory.

I am not a believer in what the polls say though. It's what actually what happens on GE day, in terms of votes cast as well as the postal votes made, that count. 

Aye. Polls have got just about everything wrong in recent times. For all the talk of protest votes and never voting Tory again when it comes to the crunch your curtain twitcher from Surbiton won't be able to resist sticking her cross beside Conversative once she's in the booth.

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2 minutes ago, DeltaRay1903 said:

Aye. Polls have got just about everything wrong in recent times. For all the talk of protest votes and never voting Tory again when it comes to the crunch your curtain twitcher from Surbiton won't be able to resist sticking her cross beside Conversative once she's in the booth.

I remember at the 2017 GE, Eilidh Whiteford had a 99.9% chance of retaining her Westminster seat in our constituency, according to the polls after vites had been cast.

However, the Tories won the seat and have been in up here ever since. 

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7 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Aye, that's a very fair summary min. If only the current Labour leader (not so much the party) was more true to the values of which the party was founded, the next General Election would be a landslide victory.

I am not a believer in what the polls say though. It's what actually what happens on GE day, in terms of votes cast as well as the postal votes made, that count. 

Starmer just seems to be tip toeing around any remotely contentious issue trying to keep the majority on board. 

His spin doctors and advisors will be telling him to just don't fuck up and that will be enough to get in.

Once actually in power, possibly with a majority, he could be more left leaning. Everything just now is about not scaring off floating Tory voters.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, G31DON said:

Starmer just seems to be tip toeing around any remotely contentious issue trying to keep the majority on board. 

His spin doctors and advisors will be telling him to just don't fuck up and that will be enough to get in.

Once actually in power, possibly with a majority, he could be more left leaning. Everything just now is about not scaring off floating Tory voters.

 

 

 

Not convinced he will change once in power. I doubt he even WANTED the gig in the first place. Corbyn was the perfect labour man but he was too radical for the party owners (Israel) so they got a yes man in.

 

Remember, Starmer had already shown his true colours with the Saville scandal. A meek and compliant man. He never talks like he wants to make a difference to the working class. He’s just there whilst Israel coincidentally commit war crimes and we have all to watch 

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3 hours ago, Poodler said:

Not convinced he will change once in power. I doubt he even WANTED the gig in the first place. Corbyn was the perfect labour man but he was too radical for the party owners (Israel) so they got a yes man in.

 

Remember, Starmer had already shown his true colours with the Saville scandal. A meek and compliant man. He never talks like he wants to make a difference to the working class. He’s just there whilst Israel coincidentally commit war crimes and we have all to watch 

Is your idea of a "perfect Labour man" someone who would never get elected? Seems a bit pointless if so. Unless of course you're happy with Labour's role being as robust opposition albeit against a Conservative party with a majority so large that opposition is rendered meaningless.

In the real world you'll only ever get in with a moderate / centre left Labour. It's maybe a shit situation for socialists and idealists but that's how it is. 

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1 hour ago, DeltaRay1903 said:

Is your idea of a "perfect Labour man" someone who would never get elected? Seems a bit pointless if so. Unless of course you're happy with Labour's role being as robust opposition albeit against a Conservative party with a majority so large that opposition is rendered meaningless.

In the real world you'll only ever get in with a moderate / centre left Labour. It's maybe a shit situation for socialists and idealists but that's how it is. 

The real world system does not serve the people. It serves the elite. 
 

it is time to revolutionise the system of government 

 

RISE

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