aberdeen1970 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, The Gee Man said: Forest looking at a loan for Doak at Liverpool, if we have to loan in players this is the type to try. He’s getting no benefit from a loan to forest surely. They have bought in 20+ players at big expense already If they start him he'll get huge benefits from it. Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: If they start him he'll get huge benefits from it. Like Gilmour at Brighton unfortunately Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, The Gee Man said: Forest looking at a loan for Doak at Liverpool, if we have to loan in players this is the type to try. He’s getting no benefit from a loan to forest surely. They have bought in 20+ players at big expense already Can't see Forest trying to loan him in without having the intention of playing him, at least initially. If he turned out to be out of his depth then they would for sure drop him. But at Liverpool, the best he could hope for is the odd sub appearance off the bench later on in the season and likely not in any meaningful matches. So even if he failed at Forest in first team terms, he'd still be playing U21 football (albeit in the league below Liverpool) but against teams like Leeds, Newcastle, Southampton, Villa etc. For a loon just a week past his 17th birthday, it's not a disaster to be doing that. So really can't see any real downsides to the loan if it occurs Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Gee Man said: Like Gilmour at Brighton unfortunately Gilmour is 22 on his next birthday. Time really is running out for him to make it at EPL level. Brighton are going remarkably well, far higher up the table than anyone thought and so it's difficult for their manager to drop anyone from the starting 11 but Gilmour is barely getting any time off the bench...I'm sure it's roughly 10 minutes IN TOTAL all season. Which is why it was fucking bizarre that Stevie Clarke started him in Turkey the other day. Completely different situation to Doak Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Gilmour is 22 on his next birthday. Time really is running out for him to make it at EPL level. Brighton are going remarkably well, far higher up the table than anyone thought and so it's difficult for their manager to drop anyone from the starting 11 but Gilmour is barely getting any time off the bench...I'm sure it's roughly 10 minutes IN TOTAL all season. Which is why it was fucking bizarre that Stevie Clarke started him in Turkey the other day. Completely different situation to Doak The situation could be the same if he goes and doesn’t play. Gilmour was an exciting 17 year old with the world at his feet. But a lack of playing regularly has stifled that. Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Can't see Forest trying to loan him in without having the intention of playing him, at least initially. If he turned out to be out of his depth then they would for sure drop him. But at Liverpool, the best he could hope for is the odd sub appearance off the bench later on in the season and likely not in any meaningful matches. So even if he failed at Forest in first team terms, he'd still be playing U21 football (albeit in the league below Liverpool) but against teams like Leeds, Newcastle, Southampton, Villa etc. For a loon just a week past his 17th birthday, it's not a disaster to be doing that. So really can't see any real downsides to the loan if it occurs These clubs loan in loads and never play them. The money wasted in epl makes Cormack look like scrooge Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Max Andersen, midfielder at Dundee, worth a shout? 21 yr old, Out of contract in the summer but would be a development fee to pay. I don’t know if we still fish in Scottish waters nowadays but there must be players out there. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Max Andersen, midfielder at Dundee, worth a shout? 21 yr old, Out of contract in the summer but would be a development fee to pay. I don’t know if we still fish in Scottish waters nowadays but there must be players out there. Aye, he looks decent. Would be good to bolster our ranks with some young talent from other teams in our league. When was the last one? McCrorie? Link to comment
NEM Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye, he looks decent. Would be good to bolster our ranks with some young talent from other teams in our league. When was the last one? McCrorie? The boy we paid Ross County £50k for and never gave him a sniff. Mark Gallagher or something? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, NEM said: The boy we paid Ross County £50k for and never gave him a sniff. Mark Gallagher or something? Oh aye, i'd forgotten about him Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye, he looks decent. Would be good to bolster our ranks with some young talent from other teams in our league. When was the last one? McCrorie? Yeah, probably. It’s a strategy thats served us well over various managers so I’m bemused why we seemed to have binned it and put all our eggs into international and lower league English markets. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, sooth_stander said: Yeah, probably. It’s a strategy thats served us well over various managers so I’m bemused why we seemed to have binned it and put all our eggs into international and lower league English markets. Definitely worth pursuing some youngsters from our own league over non league English players I'd say. I've been impressed with our European scouting in the main. Link to comment
NEM Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Definitely worth pursuing some youngsters from our own league over non league English players I'd say. I've been impressed with our European scouting in the main. Yeah we should be completely swerving the English leagues, players we get are invariably shite and vastly over priced. Scottish and European markets the way ahead Link to comment
Helmet Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 4 hours ago, NEM said: Yeah we should be completely swerving the English leagues, players we get are invariably shite and vastly over priced. Scottish and European markets the way ahead Agree except the Scottish market seems almost dead these days outside of the youth coming through at the top teams or snaffled up by clubs down south at 15/16. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Hamilton were the go-to team for good young Scottish players. The boy Max Anderson at Dundee is probably the pick of the bunch as people have said. If we are looking at players in our own league then Baccus for me is the obvious one. Although i'd imagine we'd be priced out of getting him. Armstrong at Killie would have been another one before he signed the new deal. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Might as well chance our hand with Brighton to try get Billy Gilmour on loan before Huns & Hearts try. you never know. although he would probably o ly be considered if Clarkson was recalled I guess 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Retard reckons he wants to go on loan to a club in Europe. FC Vaduz get yourselves on the blower to Brighton Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 5:14 PM, fine-n-dandy said: Might as well chance our hand with Brighton to try get Billy Gilmour on loan before Huns & Hearts try. you never know. although he would probably o ly be considered if Clarkson was recalled I guess I believe Alan Preston is his agent so it's a no from me Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheRedPrawcess said: I believe Alan Preston is his agent so it's a no from me Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Huns loan him. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Huns loan him. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they actually try to sign him outright. It's clear that the Brighton move has turned to shit for the loon, the manager who signed him is no longer there and the new one doesn't rate him. I don't think Brighton are struggling for cash but they might think that bringing in a fee about half of what they paid for him...which sevco could afford....might be best for all parties Link to comment
Russell Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Ten Caat said: Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they actually try to sign him outright. It's clear that the Brighton move has turned to shit for the loon, the manager who signed him is no longer there and the new one doesn't rate him. I don't think Brighton are struggling for cash but they might think that bringing in a fee about half of what they paid for him...which sevco could afford....might be best for all parties They can't afford fuck all 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Russell said: They can't afford fuck all Neither could oldco.......did that stop them? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Russell said: They can't afford fuck all ^^^^^That means they can afford it. 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 No it doesn’t. Link to comment
The Cockney Don Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 New right-back ? https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-tranmere-rovers-man-closing-in-on-aberdeen-transfer-switch/ Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Cockney Don said: New right-back ? https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-tranmere-rovers-man-closing-in-on-aberdeen-transfer-switch/ He was mentioned about a couple of months back as a target of ours so the supposed exclusive they are claiming is a pile of shite. Think he was with Birmingham earlier in his career. Link to comment
NEM Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Yaaaay! More pish from the lower leagues of England Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: He was mentioned about a couple of months back as a target of ours so the supposed exclusive they are claiming is a pile of shite. Think he was with Birmingham earlier in his career. Hud me back. Going from a regular at the 5th tier to a regular in the 4th tier is an upgrade of sorts. I’d hoped our days of signing lower league English dross (he’s 26, not some young lad with potential) were done with. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 About the same age as Logan was when we signed him and he turned out not to be too dusty (although when we got him. Brentford were in the Championship tbf) I agree it's not a signing that will excite many of our support but even if he turns out to just be a steady player, it's still an upgrade on Richardson 2 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: About the same age as Logan was when we signed him and he turned out not to be too dusty (although when we got him. Brentford were in the Championship tbf) I agree it's not a signing that will excite many of our support but even if he turns out to just be a steady player, it's still an upgrade on Richardson Agree. If he’s like Shay Logan was for his first few years then fine, but as you say, Logan wasn’t down in League Two so not a great comparison Link to comment
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