Dons In Europe - 2023/24

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

2 minutes ago, dave_min said:

Sounds like you need an afternoon on the ‘pedia 👍🏻

Na min. This forum is a hive of knowledge and eclipses anything held on Wikipedia.👍😄

[zeroisgod76]

51 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

One game at a time, sweet Zero👍. (Loved Lena Martell)

Fair point... well just to balance it this is the predicted pots for the Conference. Definitely be some winnable ties there if we got a favourable draw. Ferencvaros, Ludogrets and Helsinki?

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

1 minute ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Fair point... well just to balance it this is the predicted pots for the Conference. Definitely be some winnable ties there if we got a favourable draw. Ferencvaros, Ludogrets and Helsinki?

Would prefer the EL draw min, if we progress by BK Hacken or Zalgiris Vilnius, rather than the above possibility.

[RedRichard]

26 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Fair point... well just to balance it this is the predicted pots for the Conference. Definitely be some winnable ties there if we got a favourable draw. Ferencvaros, Ludogrets and Helsinki?

That's boring let's go for EL glory

[NEM]

1 hour ago, Millertime said:

Liverpool, Betis and Brighton for me

That’d be a bloody shite draw. Granted can see the armchair EPL loving spastics dribbling over it but nah, fuck that 

[Tord31]

1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Seen the below on Twitter. Obviously predicting that Vilnius as highest ranked will make it through and so up to us to make sure we're in pot 4 and not them. But if this was the pots what would be the best draw for us?

 

I'm going with Liverpool, Roma or Ajax (we're not going to beat any of the pot 1 teams lets be honest so may aswell get as big a team as possible), then LASK or Qarabag from pot 2 and Slovan Bratislava, Molde or Sheriff Tiraspol from pot 3... reckon we could pick up a few points from those and have a chance of 3rd place?

Liverpool

Marseille

Sparta Prague

Aberdeen

 

Ideal and back ourselves to fluke 4 pts. Alternatively a Bratislava or Molde for a better chance of 4pts

[milne_afc]

Fuck playing in Guffland. 
3 trips to proper countries, even I’ll probably make it to just one. Looking forward to the later rounds though.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

CBA looking back to see if posted elsewhere…

https://twitter.com/pselbs/status/1688579153757401089?s=46&t=EGF21CR589CHViwzdY2JPw

[Medw1311]

3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

CBA looking back to see if posted elsewhere…

https://twitter.com/pselbs/status/1688579153757401089?s=46&t=EGF21CR589CHViwzdY2JPw

Coefficient split and TV split should be way higher for Europa than Conference.

[WesthillWanderersFC]

23 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Liverpool

Marseille

Sparta Prague

Aberdeen

 

Ideal and back ourselves to fluke 4 pts. Alternatively a Bratislava or Molde for a better chance of 4pts

Fuck glamour

The easiest draw possible please. 

[Millertime]

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

As much as I can grasp your desire for Brighton, is it not the case that two teams from same country can’t be in same group?

Och bloody Uefa!

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 hour ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Fair point... well just to balance it this is the predicted pots for the Conference. Definitely be some winnable ties there if we got a favourable draw. Ferencvaros, Ludogrets and Helsinki?

Ferencvaros. 
Helsinki. 
Ludogorets 

Would give us a fighting chance of a win or two.

Decent draw & not been to Budapest or Helsinki.  
 

[Ramandu]

33 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

CBA looking back to see if posted elsewhere…

https://twitter.com/pselbs/status/1688579153757401089?s=46&t=EGF21CR589CHViwzdY2JPw

The coefficient ranking split is odd. The teams in the group stages are ranked by their 10 year coefficient, the bottom team gets 1 share of the pot, the second bottom gets 2 shares, all the way up to the top team, which gets 32 shares of the pot.

Which sounds rubbish to me.

On the plus side, our 10 year coefficient gets +1 for our CWC win.

[Medw1311]

7 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

On the plus side, our 10 year coefficient gets +1 for our CWC win.

I was like "ehhh?" when I saw that but it's true!

Also I see we get a guaranteed 3 points for Europa compared to 2.5 for Conference.

[Medw1311]

And the coefficient pot for Europa is € 69.75 M compared to € 23.5 M for the conference.

Group stage TV pot for Europa is € 97.65 M compared to € 16.45 M for the conference.

[NEM]

24 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

The coefficient ranking split is odd. The teams in the group stages are ranked by their 10 year coefficient, the bottom team gets 1 share of the pot, the second bottom gets 2 shares, all the way up to the top team, which gets 32 shares of the pot.

Which sounds rubbish to me.

On the plus side, our 10 year coefficient gets +1 for our CWC win.

Shite that - should be an even split between the 32 teams.  Modern fitba eh?! 😒

[NEM]

6 minutes ago, Medw1311 said:

And the coefficient pot for Europa is € 69.75 M compared to € 23.5 M for the conference.

Group stage TV pot for Europa is € 97.65 M compared to € 16.45 M for the conference.

Is the TV pot split evenly?  i.e. 3.05 million euro's per team?  Decent bunse if that's the case

[Medw1311]

2 minutes ago, NEM said:

Is the TV pot split evenly?  i.e. 3.05 million euro's per team?  Decent bunse if that's the case

Sadly not...

"The estimated available amount will be distributed in accordance with the proportional value of each country TV market represented by clubs taking part in the UEFA Europa League (group stage). The different market shares will be distributed to the participating clubs from each association.

Half of the global market pool will be split into as many shares as there are national associations represented by at least one club in the group stage. Each share, proportional to the value of the relevant media rights market, will be divided among the clubs based on their performance in the previous season's domestic competitions."

And as mentioned elsewhere if Huns make CL we'd get 100% of Scotland's share but if they drop to EL we'd have to share it with them.

[zeroisgod76]

21 minutes ago, Ramandu said:

The coefficient ranking split is odd. The teams in the group stages are ranked by their 10 year coefficient, the bottom team gets 1 share of the pot, the second bottom gets 2 shares, all the way up to the top team, which gets 32 shares of the pot.

Which sounds rubbish to me.

On the plus side, our 10 year coefficient gets +1 for our CWC win.

Looking like we'll probably be ranked about 28th in both competitions. So think it works out we'd get £222k from the Conference and £660k from Europa.

[aberdeen1970]

4 minutes ago, NEM said:

Is the TV pot split evenly?  i.e. 3.05 million euro's per team?  Decent bunse if that's the case

Is it fuck. It's another ruse to give more money to the bigger leagues. 

[Medw1311]

9 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Looking like we'll probably be ranked about 28th in both competitions. So think it works out we'd get £222k from the Conference and £660k from Europa.

We have 13 points on the 10 year list.

[GeorgeStreetReds]

So the Europa League could be worth around £2m more to us, give or take?

[PondHopper]

3 hours ago, redstrummer said:

it's a bloody LB we need 

Celtic will probably send him over this winter

[Tord31]

8 minutes ago, GeorgeStreetReds said:

So the Europa League could be worth around £2m more to us, give or take?

I'd go for something like that but its not straightforward to work out

[Medw1311]

I notice next season the Europa (& CL) groups are 8 games but just 6 for the Conference.

[Medw1311]

Also worth noting our co-efficient this season is 8 but will be at least 9.5 next season if we get the Europa groups or 9 if we get the conference groups.

[fine-n-dandy]

9 hours ago, Millertime said:

Nah part of the excitement under Del was pressuring Premier Sports into making a feed available!

Surely one of the broadcasters will have it

In fact BBC Surely will?

That doesn’t help me in US 😕

[Millertime]

10 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

That doesn’t help me in US 😕

I'm sure you'll work that out

[Millertime]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Is it fuck. It's another ruse to give more money to the bigger leagues. 

Is it to the bigger leagues, or the best performers?

[aberdeen1970]

4 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Is it to the bigger leagues, or the best performers?

It's the richest countries MT that generate the most tv money