G man Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 11 hours ago, AyrshireSheep said: Did you go to the game? It's not just yesterday. Being above average for a team that probably averaged 3/10 isn't something I'd be writing home about. Look at the Charlton game last weekend aswell. Numerous times in the 2nd half he bombed into the middle of the pitch leaving his area entirely unmanned giving the opposition the freedom of London. They were just too shit to use it. If anyone thinks MacKenzie is good enough to be able to play for Aberdeen then that's exactly the attitude that will see us do the square root of fuck all and never challenge either of the arsecheeks. We need players who produce a solid 7/10 week in week out. Devlin will give us that on the right. Ruby looks like he'll do it in the middle. MacKenzie won't on the left. He's the weak link. There's a reason he was targeted yesterday. In the first half v Charlton we could easily have been 6-0 ahead at half time. A team with a far bigger budget than us. Link to comment
Frank Grimes Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 13 hours ago, Broken_Glass said: Mackenzie did absolutely nothing wrong yesterday. He's a convenient target for a vast number of our fans. That is true but I don’t think he’s the answer long term Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: That is true but I don’t think he’s the answer long term And i wouldn't argue against that train of thought. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 8 hours ago, G man said: In the first half v Charlton we could easily have been 6-0 ahead at half time. A team with a far bigger budget than us. So you use the argument we could have been 6-0 up at half time to try and convince me that MacKenzie's defending in the 2nd half was nothing short of piss poor? Watch the 2nd half back. Then tell me you thought his defending was fine. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 19 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Not so hard to keep it up when you have a brass neck A brass neck would be incredibly heavy and would make it harder to support your head Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 The Ogre - loupin so far 1 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 lets give him some time. We can still consider Devlin or Williams for the back line Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think everyone just needs to take a step back and have a deep breath. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Ruby is still raw. He's not had a run where he's played with any of his defensive partners long term. Until yesterday he was the only actual CB in a back 3 then supported by 2 wingers at WB. I'll cut him slack until he's played regularly with Jensen and MacDonald. 2 Link to comment
Red-Man-Erg Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 He was shit yesterday. Everyone was, even favs like Shinnie, Roos, Clarkson. Duk, as he was for the latter part of last season is just a bit player and seems to be on a different planet half the time. Singling out Ruby is a bit unfair. 2 Link to comment
Johnnyred1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think when players around you are having a nightmare, you are drawn into so many other directions trying to bridge gaps, you end up in no man's land and look just as bad. A disjointed team with a break in the chain becomes a helluva more weaker all around. This according to the Gospel, John. 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Red-Man-Erg said: He was shit yesterday. Everyone was, even favs like Shinnie, Roos, Clarkson. Duk, as he was for the latter part of last season is just a bit player and seems to be on a different planet half the time. Singling out Ruby is a bit unfair. Early impressions are we saw him at Sheddocksley, not Serbia. Link to comment
Redtaz2 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The back 3 has changed so many times due to injuries ect once the I think robsons settled and preferred 3 , which I imagine to be McDonald , ruby, and Jensen ( not in formation order before I get pulled for that ) get some game time and familiarity things will be ok we were just very fortunate that McDonald and pollock had such a quick understanding and good partnership 1 Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said: The back 3 has changed so many times due to injuries ect once the I think robsons settled and preferred 3 , which I imagine to be McDonald , ruby, and Jensen ( not in formation order before I get pulled for that ) get some game time and familiarity things will be ok we were just very fortunate that McDonald and pollock had such a quick understanding and good partnership I have a feeling it will still change a few more times within the the next few games. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 The fee was £200,000 so he's not going to be a world beater. One for us to develop. Let's see if he's a first pick on September 21st or not. Link to comment
Daisy1903 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 59 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said: The back 3 has changed so many times due to injuries ect once the I think robsons settled and preferred 3 , which I imagine to be McDonald , ruby, and Jensen ( not in formation order before I get pulled for that ) get some game time and familiarity things will be ok we were just very fortunate that McDonald and pollock had such a quick understanding and good partnership They definitely need to spend some time on the training field working as a unit. Last season MacDonald stayed put and he let Scales and Pollock venture forward at times. But when they did McRorie and Hayes held back to cover the space. Unfortunately thus season Morris and Duncan seem to be clueless about doing that and MacDonald has also been venturing too far forward. His positioning for their goal was terrible. Link to comment
Helmet Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Would we be better sticking Ruby in the middle and McDonald on the RHS? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 MacDonald is a sweeper and an organiser imo so I'd keep him central. The new guys need time to settle in a consistent defensive line up. And that includes all 5, not just the central 3. Only 1 of the probable back 5 were here last season and the 1 has just had his first start of the season after injury. It's practically an entirely new defensive unit. Folk expect new players to settle straight away. Some do but many need some time, especially the guys coming from abroad. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Given his 0 minutes game time at Watford, we should be firing in a bid for Pollock before the window closes. Watford (and the player himself) might well reject it but we should at least try. If it came off, Pollock on the right, Jensen on the left and let MacDonald and Rubezic fight it out for who gets the central role and who is on the bench. As the incumbent, MacDonald gets the initial nod. 1 Link to comment
jamiesd Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Helmet said: Would we be better sticking Ruby in the middle and McDonald in the RDS? Yes 3 Link to comment
Helmet Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: MacDonald is a sweeper and an organiser imo so I'd keep him central. The new guys need time to settle in a consistent defensive line up. And that includes all 5, not just the central 3. Only 1 of the probable back 5 were here last season and the 1 has just had his first start of the season after injury. It's practically an entirely new defensive unit. Folk expect new players to settle straight away. Some do but many need some time, especially the guys coming from abroad. Maybe, but with the way a lot of Scottish teams play I think maybe a bigger CB in the central area makes sense, with the more mobile guys either side of him. Link to comment
Oregon Red Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 i think we need a back 4. The back 3 is a failed initiative. 2 2 Link to comment
jamiesd Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Oregon Red said: i think we need a back 4. The back 3 is a failed initiative. we have a winner.... Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Oregon Red said: i think we need a back 4. The back 3 is a failed initiative. This. 1,000,000%. The back 3 just doesn't work and it's nullifying the midfield aswell. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 Of course Barry does not have a preferred formation so we should see a range used. Lack of wingers if we play 4231. It would be Duk and one of Duncan, Morris, Hayes or god forbid Vinnie? Our central midfielders are not good enough for a 433 to be used Link to comment
Popular Post Dandyesque Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 The guy has been in the country for about a fortnight and played with different players each time. I'd expect Scottish football to be a little different to the Serbian league. Give him a chance to settle before writing him off. 24 Link to comment
Oregon Red Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Of course Barry does not have a preferred formation so we should see a range used. Lack of wingers if we play 4231. It would be Duk and one of Duncan, Morris, Hayes or god forbid Vinnie? Our central midfielders are not good enough for a 433 to be used what about the old 4-4-2? Link to comment
Ellondon Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Think we need to give him time to settle. Hopefully once his English improves. understand people wanting to play a back 4 just don’t think we will see that anytime soon. Big problem we would have going to a back 4 is none of the centre halves we have are blessed with any pace Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 So is Slobbery Dan the new hate figure for the season? Just checking so I know and don't focus too much on the failings of everyone else yesterday. 4 2 Link to comment
McPhee123 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Oregon Red said: i think we need a back 4. The back 3 is a failed initiative. Remarkable how many of us are screaming for this, for a number of reasons, but it just doesn't seem to be in Robson's plans. 1 Link to comment
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