Robsonball

[ahead on alphabet]

3 minutes ago, VinegarStrokes said:

Surely if you're buying in players to fit a pre-determined formation you buy players with experience of playing in those positions? You don't buy players that have no experience in playing those positions then expect them to adapt unless you're incompetent or taking the piss.

You don't buy two specialist right backs and convert one to RWB then freeze out the other one completely as he's a dedicated RB and nothing more?

Or on the other side of the pitch where we have limited options in the LWB position we decide to sign a left back with no history of playing LWB and very little first team experience at all? 

Or sign two strikers for the guts of half a million quid and don't give them any minutes?

Everything you are saying is totally obvious and correct but you are arguing with someone who is just taking the piss.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Are you new to this?

away with your revolutionary ramblings.  You’ll expect players to play twice a week next.

[sooth_stander]

Hearing stories about the manager “losing the dressing room”. Never sure how much to believe in that regard.

Players still seem to be giving him 100% but they must know the setup is not collectively giving them the best chance of success.

[Ke1t]

Fire Robson right aff the fucking roof. 

 

[milne_afc]

8 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Hearing stories about the manager “losing the dressing room”. Never sure how much to believe in that regard.

Players still seem to be giving him 100% but they must know the setup is not collectively giving them the best chance of success.

Ruby punching holes in walls sounds far-fetched. Doesn’t look as if he could punch his way through a wet paper bag

[WesthillWanderersFC]

8 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Hearing stories about the manager “losing the dressing room”. Never sure how much to believe in that regard.

Players still seem to be giving him 100% but they must know the setup is not collectively giving them the best chance of success.

I can’t imagine the likes of Clarkson & Duk will be liking the hoofball we invariably see.

Little wonder they look disinterested? 

As I don’t see Robson being the answer long-term (or even short-term), the quicker it’s over the better. 

[Tommy]

5 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Hearing stories about the manager “losing the dressing room”. Never sure how much to believe in that regard.

Players still seem to be giving him 100% but they must know the setup is not collectively giving them the best chance of success.

It’s up to Shinnie to address any concerns with Robson. A lack of game time would piss off several of the squad, some justifiably, some not. The questionable formation is pissing fans off so easy to see the squad feeling the same way.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Doubt Shinnie’s putting himself up there just now, not the way Barrons playing

[sooth_stander]

We’re in 11th place now.

Dundee up to 5th 😂😂

[sooth_stander]

1 hour ago, milne_afc said:

Ruby punching holes in walls sounds far-fetched. Doesn’t look as if he could punch his way through a wet paper bag

Heard that one too, but that’s probably more down to his own ineptitude in certain situations, than frustration with the manager.

[sooth_stander]

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

It’s up to Shinnie to address any concerns with Robson. A lack of game time would piss off several of the squad, some justifiably, some not. The questionable formation is pissing fans off so easy to see the squad feeling the same way.

Seen Shinnie regularly walking his dug with Angus MacDonald, and his dug. Item number one, as they quaff their Starbucks?

MacDonald must be wondering WTF is going on.

[Russell]

37 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Seen Shinnie regularly walking his dug with Angus MacDonald, and his dug. Item number one, as they quaff their Starbucks?

MacDonald must be wondering WTF is going on.

I don't think MacDonald can have too many arguments tbf. Compare this back 3 to last season, Rubezic is in the Pollock role, Jensen for Scales and Gartenmann for MacDonald. MacDonald isn't an attack everything and clearing header type and I wouldn't say he's better than the other two.

[sooth_stander]

5 minutes ago, Russell said:

I don't think MacDonald can have too many arguments tbf. Compare this back 3 to last season, Rubezic is in the Pollock role, Jensen for Scales and Gartenmann for MacDonald. MacDonald isn't an attack everything and clearing header type and I wouldn't say he's better than the other two.

Gartenman is the Pollock replacement, Ruby is the MacDonald replacement.

MacDonald’s role last season was to sit in the middle of the 3 and sweep up anything that got past the other 2. And I thought he was an attack everything kinda guy,

[King Street Loon]

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[robbojunior]

On 10/27/2023 at 3:57 PM, Millertime said:

What's the relevance of the small gap in points in 3rd to 11th, with us?

It makes it all the more infuriating

Everyone has been keech

If we hadn't been keech and won the games we should have, we would be clear in 3rd

 

On 10/27/2023 at 4:04 PM, Willo flood said:

That’s nothing to do with good work from us though. The only reason we are 2 points behind Hearts in 4th is because they are absolutely gash and had the easiest opening run of fixtures possible.

We should be leaving teams like Hearts and Hibs in the mud this year and yet we are using being close to them as some sort of justification for how bad we’ve been.

Agreed Robson is lucky that's the case, but my point is, he's got a new squad so I'd say we can afford to give him time because of this fortunate situation. The second half of last season he turned us around from relegation candidates.

[Millertime]

2 minutes ago, robbojunior said:

 

Agreed Robson is lucky that's the case, but my point is, he's got a new squad so I'd say we can afford to give him time because of this fortunate situation. The second half of last season he turned us around from relegation candidates.

Nah

[Willo flood]

MacDonald has been guff pretty much any time he has put an Aberdeen shirt on this season.

[robbojunior]

2 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Nah

Thanks great insight

[Millertime]

8 minutes ago, robbojunior said:

Thanks great insight

Haha no probs

It's eas to get a tune out of a team disillusioned by a previous manager 

[Simply Red]

4 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Haha no probs

It's eas to get a tune out of a team disillusioned by a previous manager 

Is it? 

[ahead on alphabet]

2 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Haha no probs

It's eas to get a tune out of a team disillusioned by a previous manager 

Exactly. The new manager bounce syndrome they call it, often doesn't hold. More to do with the players themselves. "Look we are actually decent players, it was all the old managers fault". If the new manager doesn't get a tune out of them quickly it's the players fault.

[Millertime]

6 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

Is it? 

Evidently

[eeps]

15 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

Is it? 

No but otherwise Robson would have to get some credit for something.

 

[fine-n-dandy]

Other than an actual LB we actually have a fairly decent selection of players that are actually far better suited to a basic 4-4-2 (or other variations building from back 4) but our stubbornly shite manager still insists of playing 3 fkn CH’s when we could be playing an extra midfielder rather than (for example) Rubi 

 

Robson has conned all at the club that his ‘back 3’ plan is 100% the best way to go.

 

[ahead on alphabet]

12 minutes ago, eeps said:

No but otherwise Robson would have to get some credit for something.

 

Under 18s are doing well 

[eeps]

2 minutes ago, ahead on alphabet said:

Under 18s are doing well 

🥱 

[DD1903]

1 hour ago, King Street Loon said:

.

👀

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, Willo flood said:

MacDonald has been guff pretty much any time he has put an Aberdeen shirt on this season.

Not convinced he was fully fit when he did so.

That said, I think it's clear that he's now very much the 4th option CB

[WesthillWanderersFC]

22 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Other than an actual LB we actually have a fairly decent selection of players that are actually far better suited to a basic 4-4-2 (or other variations building from back 4) but our stubbornly shite manager still insists of playing 3 fkn CH’s when we could be playing an extra midfielder rather than (for example) Rubi 

 

Robson has conned all at the club that his ‘back 3’ plan is 100% the best way to go.

 

I actually think 3 at the back might be heavily influenced by Steve Agnew.

When Robson was under 18’s manager, it was a back 4 he worked with. 

Steve Bruce/Steve Agnew were usually 3/5 at the back.

It is the right formation sometimes. Against a front 2 for example. 
It’d make sense next week at Hampden as Hibs are a 4-4-2 team.

BUT, can we not adapt to switch to a 4 when it’s more appropriate? 

[fine-n-dandy]

8 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

I actually think 3 at the back might be heavily influenced by Steve Agnew.

When Robson was under 18’s manager, it was a back 4 he worked with. 

Steve Bruce/Steve Agnew were usually 3/5 at the back.

It is the right formation sometimes. Against a front 2 for example. 
It’d make sense next week at Hampden as Hibs are a 4-4-2 team.

BUT, can we not adapt to switch to a 4 when it’s more appropriate? 

Possibly right that Agnew has some influence in this but Robson doesn’t strike me as the type to be that much of a walkover that he would do it without being in full agreement.

regarding his time as youth coach though, they are forced to play the formations the current first team managers want them to are they not? For better ‘transitioning’ into first team. Robson does love the transitions