Match Thread St Johnstone 1 - 1 Aberdeen

[TerryMcDermott]

Willie Miller, who effectively was fired as Aberdeen manager for persisting with a back 3/5 watching us v St Johnstone. 

[fine-n-dandy]

2 hours ago, G man said:

What we need to do is develop a link with a Premiership club in England - similar to what Hibs have done with Bournemouth and Dundee have done with Burnley rather than look to some random tie up in the middle east. Would allow us to bring in for a season ,younger players who are not quite ready  for the Premiership but could enhance our squad for a season. In that way we would not have to waste vast sums of money who will be a financial drain on the club both in transfer fees and wages. Players similar to Maddison could only improve what we have at present.

Fkn pains me to say it but this is the only way forward to salvage football in Scotland. Fkn ‘sell out’ to the Guffs & their money. Once enough ‘top flight’ teams down there get their talons into our pitiful clubs then the TV deals of a more equal share (as in not just 90% to arse cheeks) get distributed.

The game is totally fkd here & tbe arse cheek mafia has seen to that. Gotten to stage now that only way to survive/fight those cunts is to be someone else’s bitches.

No way the arse cheeks themselves would sell out in same way so that is our only advantage 

[beef_sister]

Just listened to Shinnies post match and he's going on about us "being in control". All good and well being in control but when you do absolutely fuck all when your in "control" is criminal, He knows that his manager is a fucking charlatan and doesn;t have a clue how to set a team up or see a game out.

 

[TerryMcDermott]

12 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Fkn pains me to say it but this is the only way forward to salvage football in Scotland. Fkn ‘sell out’ to the Guffs & their money. Once enough ‘top flight’ teams down there get their talons into our pitiful clubs then the TV deals of a more equal share (as in not just 90% to arse cheeks) get distributed.

The game is totally fkd here & tbe arse cheek mafia has seen to that. Gotten to stage now that only way to survive/fight those cunts is to be someone else’s bitches.

No way the arse cheeks themselves would sell out in same way so that is our only advantage 

I for one welcome our English dom overlords. 

[caledonia]

Trouble now even if we get a good player in that moron will spoil it by sitting in and not letting him play.

worst i have ever seen in 30 years sitting in with back 5 against a team that just got beat by Airdrie.

Did he not promise us attacking football

sack the cunt now

[caledonia]

Robson
“we need to get better in both boxes”

https://twitter.com/plzsoccer/status/1750324114621903059?s=46&t=kJr-6Jm3yBJIXY1_nlCLtA

[don corleone]

8 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Robson
“we need to get better in both boxes”

https://twitter.com/plzsoccer/status/1750324114621903059?s=46&t=kJr-6Jm3yBJIXY1_nlCLtA

NO SHIT BARRY! You've cracked it son, manager of the fucking year.

[caledonia]

In fact we are so bad under Robson i bet the BBC are kicking themselves at not taking the Aberdeen v Bonnyrigg Rose game now.

 

[TerryMcDermott]

2 minutes ago, don corleone said:

NO SHIT BARRY! You've cracked it son, manager of the fucking year.

Fucking drives me up the wall. He completely skips over the fact that we were atrocious in possession and completely lacked any penetration or width. Blunt as a spoon with a prett prolific striker utterly isolated. 
 

it’s madness at this point. Same thing. Same result. Won’t change. 

[TerryMcDermott]

7 minutes ago, caledonia said:

In fact we are so bad under Robson i bet the BBC are kicking themselves at not taking the Aberdeen v Bonnyrigg Rose game now.

 

Darvel mention count would be in the 100’s

[HaarDon]

We are absolute fucking shite.

The amount of 'straight to the opposition' crosses (NOT BY MORRIS) that was played into the box was unbelievable!

Our inability to beat teams like this is fuck all to do with the huns or Celtic or the shitey SFA, SPL, BLM, the TSB, Thatcher or lack of money.

 

Sack Robson NOW!!!

Clear out as many as possible and buy quality!!!

 

Hearts will win 3/4-0...fucking atrocious way to think, yet practical.

 

[RUL]

It was a horrendous performance. Feel like I need a scapegoat to take my frustration out on so can I just add Polvara was absolutely horrific. Actually incredible he was allowed to come out for second half and even more incredible he played even fucking worse.  Useless. 

[Zeus]

5 hours ago, Dandyesque said:

The one he was injured for and only came on for the last 10 minutes before we lost?

Yeah that was it 

[fine-n-dandy]

1 hour ago, TerryMcDermott said:

I for one welcome our English dom overlords. 

Games been a bogey for decades anyway. Then it was completely killed off when the Sevco cunts were lubed back in to ‘equal’ control. 
 

pathetic. Could make a really shite film franchise about corruption that could run as long as the Friday the 13th or Halloween films did. Hills have eyes weegies version 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 hour ago, caledonia said:

Robson
“we need to get better in both boxes”

https://twitter.com/plzsoccer/status/1750324114621903059?s=46&t=kJr-6Jm3yBJIXY1_nlCLtA

He’s a fucking havering simpleton. 
 

[jamiesd]

He's fucking worse than Goodwin and Glass.  Scott Brown would of done better than Goodwin and Robson and he was already on our books.  Not saying he would of done well but he wouldn't of been worse.

[HaarDon]

20 minutes ago, jamiesd said:

He's fucking worse than Goodwin and Glass.  Scott Brown would of done better than Goodwin and Robson and he was already on our books.  Not saying he would of done well but he wouldn't of been worse.

People...it's always have.

🤣

[sigh]

6 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

So I guess that wasn’t such a ‘must win’ game after all.

Amazes me how some (admittedly fewer & fewer as games DRAG on) will still willingly argue against those wanting Robson booted to fk out & will still struggle on to find excuses. Even if those excuses have gotten so hard to find, they aren’t even excuses for Barry anymore. They’re just aimed at ‘attempted’ ridicule of those continuously repeating the desperate need to give up on this total failed experiment/lost cause. Some will try & blame it on players/individuals & ignore the one that’s ‘guiding’ them like he’s some kind of misunderstood victim in all this. 
 

He hasn’t  ‘lost the dressing room’ but he’s definitely killed off any kind of enjoyment for the players & certainly any kind of individual creativity. Probably a big reason why Duk is out of the team & Clarkson is a fkn ghost of the player we know is in there.

 

It cannot be ignored how damaging this robot is being to the squad

The jury is out, has the team effectively decided that they have had enough of Robsonball?

[strachanmcgheegoal]

So.  In summary we were arrogant enough to think we could out-St Johnston St Johnston.

And Cormack is arrogant enough to think we’ll continue to turn up to watch us being St Johnston, badly.

[jamiesd]

33 minutes ago, HaarDon said:

People...it's always have.

🤣

I left school in the 80's son but thanks for the tip.

[muttonhumper]

10 hours ago, Russell said:

Right-off a cliff?

Right-off the heed with a ball-peen hemmer.

9 hours ago, Tord31 said:

I doubt its a good time to say I told you so on the team selection @various @muttonhumper

Ah! So the inclusion of Morris, a guy who stretches the definition of "footballer" somewhat, cannot put a cross in to save his life, passes to the opposition 99% of the time, and has the weakest shot in the history of Scottish Football would have made all the difference last night?

Good shout.

My bad.

[Don_Corleone]

Grim stuff AGAIN.

St Johnstone are rubbish but well organised and hard working as they always seem to be under any manger they have.

First 20-30 mins we actually played alright, some decent possession football, but only really had one shot at goal from Polvara. Barron was at the heart of everything, always available, moving the ball around, even though it never ultimately came to much.

The move back to 532 was just shooting ourselves in the foot. Absolutely no idea why he did that. We handed the game over to St Johnstone at that point. 

Substitutions were horrific. Polvara was clearly down after a few mistakes and should have been hooked a lot earlier. Taking Barron off was ludicrous given how vital he is to the team. Going two up top meant we just resorted to hoof and hope for the last 20 or so minutes. Hayes coming on was pointless too.

Devlin and MacKenzie offer more threat going forward in a back 4 than they ever have playing as wingbacks in a back 5. 

We stole a point in the end - very lucky with the VAR disallowed goal for Saints and very lucky to get the penalty.

Defence was absolutely awful for the goal we conceded. Roos in no man's land - hopeless. He was hopeless at the disallowed goal too, beaten at his near post from edge of the box. What a joke.

Was interesting to see Burrows reaction throughout the game - more interesting than the game itself actually. He was kicking every ball... and kicking the seat in front of him a couple of times when we gave away possession and lost the goal. Particularly frustrated with Roos, Gartenmann and Polvara at times it seemed. Guess he was just seeing what we were all seeing. 

[Baaaaa heid]

3 hours ago, TerryMcDermott said:

I for one welcome our English dom overlords. 

Sadly our overlords are American and the players they would send us are of the jack gurr / Johnathan Gallagher mold  just shit , the insite to the South American market that was promised as a scout sharing thing has so far proved unsuccessful no South American players incoming , maybe we should try cosy up to the Saudis because they have cash to splash 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

2 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said:

Grim stuff AGAIN.

St Johnstone are rubbish but well organised and hard working as they always seem to be under any manger they have.

First 20-30 mins we actually played alright, some decent possession football, but only really had one shot at goal from Polvara. Barron was at the heart of everything, always available, moving the ball around, even though it never ultimately came to much.

The move back to 532 was just shooting ourselves in the foot. Absolutely no idea why he did that. We handed the game over to St Johnstone at that point. 

Substitutions were horrific. Polvara was clearly down after a few mistakes and should have been hooked a lot earlier. Taking Barron off was ludicrous given how vital he is to the team. Going two up top meant we just resorted to hoof and hope for the last 20 or so minutes. Hayes coming on was pointless too.

Devlin and MacKenzie offer more threat going forward in a back 4 than they ever have playing as wingbacks in a back 5. 

We stole a point in the end - very lucky with the VAR disallowed goal for Saints and very lucky to get the penalty.

Defence was absolutely awful for the goal we conceded. Roos in no man's land - hopeless. He was hopeless at the disallowed goal too, beaten at his near post from edge of the box. What a joke.

Was interesting to see Burrows reaction throughout the game - more interesting than the game itself actually. He was kicking every ball... and kicking the seat in front of him a couple of times when we gave away possession and lost the goal. Particularly frustrated with Roos, Gartenmann and Polvara at times it seemed. Guess he was just seeing what we were all seeing. 

Very fortunate to get a point by all accounts and by what I've observed.

Roos' attempts at saves for the disallowed goal (one we definitely got away with) and their actual goal were pitiful and embarrassing, albeit he did have one good reaction save from the wee lad Jaiyesimi in the second half but that is his main job at the end of the day, I.e. keeping the ball out if the back of our net.

How a goalkeeper well over six feet in height cannot beat a boy of about a feet lower in height to the ball from a hopeful cross is ridiculous.

Ester Sokler's powderpuff header in injury time was awful, although I think, if it had gone in, it would have been chopped off anyway as Miovski appeared to be offside.

 

 

[DandyWarhol]

Apologies if this has already been posted but a pretty accurate summary of where we are right now from Thomas Duncan in the BBC match report:

Quote

Aberdeen have now played half of their league games and it is unclear what their identity or style of play is. Manager Barry Robson has played a back five for most of the season, but it did not bring solidity or results and drew criticism about an overly direct style.

A switch to a back four since the turn of the year has allowed a more possession-based approach, but Aberdeen move the ball too slowly and play with no natural wide players.

At McDiarmid it meant they were narrow, slow and predictable, until the end of the match when things became stretched, and Miovski and substitute Ester Sokler had headed chances.

When Miovksi stroked in his 17th goal of the season from the spot, Aberdeen reverted to the back five to try to see things out with half an hour to play, but still looked vulnerable and conceded.

Saturday's meeting with Hearts is now huge for the Aberdeen manager. Lose and hopes of third spot will fade away, and there is little time to come up with solutions to the team's problems.

Surely our FMB can't be totally blind to our problems?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67937421

[DD1903]

6 hours ago, G man said:

What we need to do is develop a link with a Premiership club in England - similar to what Hibs have done with Bournemouth and Dundee have done with Burnley rather than look to some random tie up in the middle east. Would allow us to bring in for a season ,younger players who are not quite ready  for the Premiership but could enhance our squad for a season. In that way we would not have to waste vast sums of money who will be a financial drain on the club both in transfer fees and wages. Players similar to Maddison could only improve what we have at present.

Fuck that. Bournemouth and Burnley are two no mark clubs. These 2 link ups are yet to show any benefit to hibs and Dundee, so let's not start to follow suit. We'd end up with teddy Jenks and Longstaff types. 

[Tord31]

20 minutes ago, muttonhumper said:

Right-off the heed with a ball-peen hemmer.

Ah! So the inclusion of Morris, a guy who stretches the definition of "footballer" somewhat, cannot put a cross in to save his life, passes to the opposition 99% of the time, and has the weakest shot in the history of Scottish Football would have made all the difference last night?

Good shout.

My bad.

Anybody standing wide to stretch the play would have been a better tactic. We could have stuck Ross Doohan out there

[Don_Corleone]

3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Anybody standing wide to stretch the play would have been a better tactic. We could have stuck Ross Doohan out there

Our biggest threats out wide were Devlin and MacKenzie... when we were playing 4 at the back and they were full backs. Bizarrely when we went to 352 and they should have been in a more advanced position they became pretty much anonymous. Possibly because we were lumping the ball forward quickly again rather than trying to build through the midfield, allowing them to get forward in support.

[G man]

50 minutes ago, DD1903 said:

Fuck that. Bournemouth and Burnley are two no mark clubs. These 2 link ups are yet to show any benefit to hibs and Dundee, so let's not start to follow suit. We'd end up with teddy Jenks and Longstaff types. 

Anything has to be better than present recruitment policy. They are two Premier League clubs and often spend more on a player than we do in 10 years combined. 

[Arthur FN Shelby]

Take away the VAR decisions and we were beat 1-0. A measure of how good/bad a team is can sometimes be how many saves the opposition keeper had to make. I can only think of a couple the St Johnstone keeper had to deal with. The rest of the league must fancy an easy three points when they play us.