10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 sometimes the tactics are baffling but most of the time this season it has been a pretty simple. 4-4-2. OK with some players being out of position, but i think when Calderwood has everyone fit then its a 4-4-2Langfield HartAndersonDiamond/Considine/TouzaniByrne/Foster Smith JNicholsonSeverinClark Lovell/MackieMiller/Brewster Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Touzani has to come into the side, he's far to good a player to have on the sidelines. Considine will go on to be a good player, but at present he's far to prone to mistakes, and his lack of pace is being exposed too. Link to comment
K-9 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 sometimes the tactics are baffling but most of the time this season it has been a pretty simple. 4-4-2. OK with some players being out of position, but i think when Calderwood has everyone fit then its a 4-4-2Langfield HartAndersonDiamond/Considine/TouzaniByrne/Foster Smith JNicholsonSeverinClark Lovell/MackieMiller/BrewsterUnfortunately JC has never seen Clark as anything but a starting central midfielder!! Link to comment
Guest redbrigade Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 however as JC lets the tombola do the work for him Helluva Tombola that gets us into 3rd in the league. Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Unfortunately JC has never seen Clark as anything but a starting central midfielder!! He's as pish a winger as he is a central mid. Never ever rated the lad. Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 i think that if he would just run at people and have a bit more confidence then he'd be an OK winger, although I dont rate him much either. You then have everyone telling us that Jamie Smith is not a winger and has to be played in the centre of midfield which means that you need to play narrow in the middle as Smith can't tackle and then you get no service from wide into the box. Link to comment
glasgow sheep Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 sometimes the tactics are baffling but most of the time this season it has been a pretty simple. 4-4-2.exactlywe have had some great runs of results playing a simple 442 formation with consistent and logical selection.The problems occur when JC starts thinking he is some tactical hot shot reared in the Dutch school of "total football" and shifts everyone all over the place and gets FB to manmark and other such brilliant inovations. If he kept things simple and had some self awareness and insight into his own limitations then we wouldn't be having these same discussions every month, and would mean a far greater points total than we do at the minute Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 exactlywe have had some great runs of results playing a simple 442 formation with consistent and logical selection.The problems occur when JC starts thinking he is some tactical hot shot reared in the Dutch school of "total football" and shifts everyone all over the place and gets FB to manmark and other such brilliant inovations. If he kept things simple and had some self awareness and insight into his own limitations then we wouldn't be having these same discussions every month, and would mean a far greater points total than we do at the minute I think JC understands the tactics he employs perfectly well, he just doesn't have the players to employ them effectively. Link to comment
glasgow sheep Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I think JC understands the tactics he employs perfectly well, he just doesn't have the players to employ them effectively. LOL perhaps that is rightProblem is then 1) we DON'T have the player he wants/needs despite 3 seasons worth of signingsand2) he is the ONLY one that understands them Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Indeed we did. have a banana. also came across these gems from the history section on afc.co.uk, regarding Ebbe's reign. Aberdeen finish bottom of the SPL with a record 83 goals conceded. Dons saved due to SPL ground criteria. The Dons lose a record first six games in the league. The first five are without a goal scored. Those were indeed, "the days". Remind me again was that before or after ebbe got to mould his squad together? Did he not get to two cup finals that season and qualify for europe - And We would have had to play falkirk in a play off in the WORST case scenario. So hud yer weesht Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Remind me again was that before or after ebbe got to mould his squad together? Did he not get to two cup finals that season and qualify for europe - And We would have had to play falkirk in a play off in the WORST case scenario. So hud yer weesht Relegation play-offs are completely unacceptable. Ebbe was an idiot of a manager. Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 yes and lets look at what Calderwood is doing now 1st season - 4th - Just miss out on Euro spot2nd season - 6th - still in with chance of Europe going to Tynecastle after the split3rd season - 3rd - 3 points clear of hearts with 5 games left. There is a bit of consistency there and that is what matters for me. Yes Ebbe got better7th then 4th then eh, crap after that. I'm looking to keep finishing 3rd 4th in the next 2/3 seasons and I think that under Calderwood we can achieve that, this will be the first time that we have finished in the top half 3 seasons running for about 15 years, thats progress. Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 And congratulations to jimmy now has the record of games for scoring 1 goal or less in. A great manager Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 And congratulations to jimmy now has the record of games for scoring 1 goal or less in. A great manager Lets not forget what your hero said about statistics. Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yes but the opposition is scoring less as well. Utd was the first game we conceeded 4 goals at home under Calderwood. I remember many a hammering off Celtic and Rangers at Pittodrie of 5 and 6 under Ebbe. Also the utter shame of losing 7-0 at Parkhead TWICE!!!!!!!! Anyone who says that it was better being an Aberdeen fan under Ebbe than under Calderwood obviously just doesn't care where we end up in the league. We were embarrasing at times under Ebbe and since Calderwood came in it's never been embarrasing (except QP) I liked Ebbe when he was here but things are better now. Link to comment
The Proclaimer Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I can believe this has went to 8 pages! Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Lets not forget what your hero said about statistics. If you play nagative boring football the crowds will drop and you wont get money to buy your way into a decent place in the league? Link to comment
mizer Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I can believe this has went to 8 pages! I cant believe his is still our manager, hang on I cant believe he is a manager at all! Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yes but the opposition is scoring less as well. Utd was the first game we conceeded 4 goals at home under Calderwood. I remember many a hammering off Celtic and Rangers at Pittodrie of 5 and 6 under Ebbe. Also the utter shame of losing 7-0 at Parkhead TWICE!!!!!!!! Anyone who says that it was better being an Aberdeen fan under Ebbe than under Calderwood obviously just doesn't care where we end up in the league. We were embarrasing at times under Ebbe and since Calderwood came in it's never been embarrasing (except QP) I liked Ebbe when he was here but things are better now. Do you not remember how bad we were in the middle of last season, getting pumped away to motherwell sticks in my mind. Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 If you play nagative boring football the crowds will drop and you wont get money to buy your way into a decent place in the league? From 13k to 12k? There never was a crowd in the first place. Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 From 13k to 12k? There never was a crowd in the first place. Think you need to check out your figures Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Think you need to check out your figures Right enough Stoney, I forgot about those massive crowds we've always had that JC's driven away! Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 that is what I like to call, a sticky patch. A period of a few games where we struggle but then pick up again afterwards. Round the M'Well game we had a sticky patch but after that 7 unbeaten in the league. and only 3 league defeats from the new year to the end of the season. Link to comment
glasgow sheep Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Think you need to check out your figures Source: http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/page/A...2~20063,00.html 06/07: 12,32505/06: 12,72704/05: 12,21903/04: 10,38902/03: 11,66501/02: 14,03500/01: 12,40399/00: 12,81398/99: 12,713 Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Source: http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/page/A...2~20063,00.html 06/07: 12,32505/06: 12,72704/05: 12,21903/04: 10,38902/03: 11,66501/02: 14,03500/01: 12,40399/00: 12,81398/99: 12,713 That can't be right, we had 60k average before JC started boring everyone. Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 so crowds are down a whopping 400 on last season and generally similar to those under Skovdahl. We have three important home games left that will hopefully bring out the fans, average attendance should be around 13,000 by the end of the year. Link to comment
Guest Stoney Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 average of over 14000 - almost 2000 more then our oh so succesfull this season. Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 average of over 14000 - almost 2000 more then our oh so succesfull this season. For one season, then JC drove them all away, when he wasn't even at the club. Its his fault. Link to comment
10MenWent2Mow Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Average under Skovdahl 13,000 roughly, under Calderwood, 12,500 roughly. 500 of a difference. nothing much at all. Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Average under Skovdahl 13,000 roughly, under Calderwood, 12,500 roughly. 500 of a difference. nothing much at all. JC has brought the average up by about 1500 or so according to those figures. Get him sacked, improved crowds, improved league positions, he is sh*te! Link to comment
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