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STVkeith: Aberdeen Chief Exec Douglas Fraser leaves Hampden. When asked about impact on his club, he only said: "we'll be alright."  

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what a spastic.

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So a business formed in 2012 has managed to amass "54 League titles, 33 Scottish Cups, 27 League Cups and the European Cup Winners

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Transfer embargo only applied to Rangers.

 

Sevco are Pretendgers.

 

 

Wasn't part of the Div 1 deal that they accept the transfer ban? No doubt they'll fudge it so that it only kicks in on the 1st September 2012.

 

So they sign a player Hearts couldn't afford to keep. So much for the MSM line that they'd be greatly weakened.

 

They've not even got a league to play in and they're already outspending us!!!!!!

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DougieBell Newbie

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Wasn't part of the Div 1 deal that they accept the transfer ban? No doubt they'll fudge it so that it only kicks in on the 1st September 2012.

 

So they sign a player Hearts couldn't afford to keep. So much for the MSM line that they'd be greatly weakened.

 

They've not even got a league to play in and they're already outspending us!!!!!!

 

Not only could Hearts not afford to keep him, but part of the reason for that is because a certain bunch of cheating fucks have not paid them for Lee Wallace.

 

This is fucking unbelievable.

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Even if the SFA bow to fan pressure and a reasonable punishment is given to the new huns (which it won't be), it doesn't change the fact that the SFA are nothing more than a bunch of crooks who want the new huns to continute to dominate the game in the top flight and Scottish football will be forever shite until new people form their own league with the intention of it being free of bias and corruption. Even if the new huns start in division 3, the SFA will do everything and anything to give the new huns every opportunity to get back into the SPL and to dominate the league alongside Celtic. Regardless of the punishment they get, the intention is there from the SFA and that's why Scottish football is doomed with these people in charge.

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FIFA threatens Oman with suspension from playing World Cup 2014 qualifying matches for breaching football rules on taking disputes to ordinary courts.

 

Three clubs in Oman sought a ruling to invalidate allegedly flawed elections for the Oman Football Association ruling board.

 

Oman, managed by former Rangers manager Paul Le Guen, are scheduled to play their next World Cup qualifier at home to Jordan on 16 October.

 

Picked this up from the BBC Sportsday live feed at 1153 - wonder when that happened in Oman and the potential for it to happen here.

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Not only could Hearts not afford to keep him, but part of the reason for that is because a certain bunch of cheating fucks have not paid them for Lee Wallace.

 

This is fucking unbelievable.

 

Great isn't it. They have been punished enough though haven't they.

 

Somebody on Mad claiming Traynor is representing the DR at the meeting, sincerely hope that's made up pish.

By DR I assume you mean Daily Record?

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Teevan Newbie

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Clyde Statement:

 

The club sent two directors to attend the meeting of the SFL clubs yesterday and they have reported back to the Board. The meeting and conversations covered the best part of 5 hours but there were only a few overarching themes.

The clear message portrayed is that Scottish Football is in a very dark place indeed and there is simply no good solution to what is now a structural problem that has gone beyond a one dimensional issue of where Rangers should play next season. No matter what happens now there is going to be enormous fallout across the Scottish game. Whether some good can be extracted from the impending mess will depend entirely on the SPL clubs, guided by the currently absent leadership of the SFA.

Neil Doncaster wanted only one thing from the meeting, to get a steer from the SFL clubs whether they would allow Rangers into SFL1. He talked the clubs through a detailed explanation of where the SPL clubs would lose £16m next season if Rangers were not entered to the top division of the SFL. This was delivered as a matter of fact, it was a "reality". It seems that most, if not all, major sponsors of the SPL have exit clauses if either of the 'Old Firm' are not within the SPL. The total figure was not new, but the detail behind the number and its impact on individual clubs in the SPL was set out clearly. There were challenges made regarding the flip side of saving the central income from sponsors and media, the obvious impact of loss of supporters to the game who have strongly voiced their intent. Supporter reaction has not been factored in, again there are realities, the SPL clubs are waiting on their Sky cheques in August and clearly that was more important. Nowhere in the presentation was account taken on the impact to the finances of clubs, and more importantly the relevance of the game, should supporters stay at home.

The consequential impact on the SFL from the presentation was that the SFL would lose its entitlement to circa £2m per annum from the Settlement Agreement put together to compensate the SFL for the SPL breakaway, this was made very clear by Neil Doncaster. He told the clubs that if the SPL didn't have the money then they could not pay the SFL. The reality however, which was clear from the detailed figures, is that the SPL, whilst losing an enormous amount of funding, would have the cash to make payment; it is just that the SPL would not meet the legal obligation to the SFL as the cash would be used to finance the SPL teams.

The undeniable statement made on behalf of the SPL is commercially understandable. The SPL would not allow £16m to flow out of their coffers, the impact would be too catastrophic for the SPL clubs to contemplate and as such the only options are that Rangers enter SFL1 or, as a less attractive backstop, a breakaway SPL2 will be formed. There is no prospect, from an SPL point of view, that SFL3 can be allowed to happen.

Neil Doncaster was delivering a very unpalatable proposition and he did it clearly and effectively, hence the representatives of Clyde Football Club understood that the only thing that mattered was the impact on SPL clubs from the loss of money from media and sponsors.

It was to the credit of every SFL club, and probably to the surprise of Neil Doncaster, that nobody asked him to improve on the £1m offer.

The SFL clubs were given a steer for themselves by Neil Doncaster, if the SFL could not tell him how they might vote, then he would expect the SPL clubs not to vote at their meeting either.

There were a few new things learned in the meeting, not least that the rules of the SFL would allow any club accepted into the SFL, by a simple majority, to be placed in any division. The rules do not state, nor imply, that they must join at the bottom tier, only custom and practice around good governance and integrity has seen teams join in the bottom tier. In addition, the attendees at the meeting were left in absolutely no doubt whatsoever by Stewart Regan that if the SPL clubs voted to allow a Newco into the SPL then it would be blocked by the SFA refusing to transfer the SFA membership. It was however caveated well enough to make it less than an absolute statement. The meeting was full of implied actions and outcomes, the use of clever language when delivering the speeches allows anyone to defend with 'that is not what I said'. However, nobody will have left the meeting with anything other than the very clear messages being put across. Denials of the substance of the message being delivered do not assist anyone in this absolutely dreadful situation.

There will be no winners. Any level of integrity for the sport will be lost by one outcome and financial collapse, we are told, will fall upon the SPL with the other. Sadly, the SFA and SPL have decided that whilst they say they are looking for a collaborative solution, they have very clearly made sure that by their own inaction that the blame will sit with the SFL - no matter what the outcome. The Board of the SFL are being put under intolerable pressure by the other bodies looking to avoid the implications of properly applying their own governance procedures.

In summary, the SFA implication is that there will be no entry to the SPL. The SPL implication is that it therefore has to be SFL1 with a bit of restructure, or an SPL2 with the rest of the SFL cut adrift. There were no other options. Whilst Stewart Regan said that the SFA did not favour an SPL2, there was no equivalent abhorrence of that proposal as was attached to the proposal for a Newco in the SPL, leaving the implication that the door remains wide open for the SPL to secure their £16m with or without the SFL.

The Board of the club will consider the feedback from its representatives and also the outcomes of the next few days and will keep its supporters fully appraised, but in the meantime see no reason to amend any previous comment.

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Clyde Statement:

 

The club sent two directors to attend the meeting of the SFL clubs yesterday and they have reported back to the Board. The meeting and conversations covered the best part of 5 hours but there were only a few overarching themes.

The clear message portrayed is that Scottish Football is in a very dark place indeed and there is simply no good solution to what is now a structural problem that has gone beyond a one dimensional issue of where Rangers should play next season. No matter what happens now there is going to be enormous fallout across the Scottish game. Whether some good can be extracted from the impending mess will depend entirely on the SPL clubs, guided by the currently absent leadership of the SFA.

Neil Doncaster wanted only one thing from the meeting, to get a steer from the SFL clubs whether they would allow Rangers into SFL1. He talked the clubs through a detailed explanation of where the SPL clubs would lose

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Teevan Newbie

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Interesting read that and a bit of insight for once as to what the hell is being said at these meetings.

 

By reading that, Doncaster and his cunts are shaping up to leave all the blame for this at the feet of the SFL ?? WTF is going on ????

 

Sounds like Regan is basically saying to the SFL this will be their issue no matter what happens and Doncaster is buttering them up with a bit of cash to get Hunco back in ASAP. I think both need their jotters here.

 

I suspect that Regan can see greater benefits of having Hunco in the SPL sooner rather than later over the prospect of 3 years (at least) coming up through the leagues. The noises coming from the SFL clubs though seem to indicate that they want nothing to do with a pretty conniving plot.

The immediate fate of football in Scotland is in their hands. Let's hope they make the right decision.

 

Glad to see that AFC have restated their position and are opposed to Div 1 or any delay in the vote. Standing up and being counted by the sounds of things.

 

This is dragging on too long today though. I wish they'd just come out and vote. We need clarity here and clearly the SFL needs to know what kind of decision it needs to make and quickly.

 

 

Edit: Yesssssssssss

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weapon Newbie

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The SFL chairmen all sound royally pissed off at having to try and clean up an SPL issue and who could bame them and none seem to trust doncaster and regan so what makes the SFA & SPL think that if they do try to create an SPL 2 that anyone other than newco would feckin join it??!!

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Foster14 Apprentice

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The Clyde statement makes you ashamed to be associated with the SPL :ThumbsDown:

 

That is what I thought. Force an SPL issue on to the SPL, threaten them, bribe them and blame them. Shocking stuff, if Doncaster lasts much longer, you have to wonder how much the SPL clubs are supporting them.

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