fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The rules are simple. You get liquidated, you have to apply to the THIRD div. No if's no buts. NO FKN RULE CHANGES TO SUIT THE FKN OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
tup Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have not seen one coherent argument to justify continued support of Aberdeen FC in the event that a 'newco' Rangers is voted straight back into the corrupt SPL. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Interesting to see how many who wouldn't bother going to games any more bother going to games now. There's so many possibilities that can come from this it's just wait and see. I suspect many can't be arsed with AFC these days anyway and see this as a get out clause. I'd be arsed if its worth going, right now it isn't but see this as a separate issue. I attend 3-4 games a season and I'm not even bothering with the semi final any more. I'm play football as right now that is a more enjoyable experience than forking out cash to watch AFC. If however the huns are allowed back in then I'll be out forever despite how good the dons are Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have not seen one coherent argument to justify continued support of Aberdeen FC in the event that a 'newco' Rangers is voted straight back into the corrupt SPL. what is it youre looking for? justice? personally i just want a fair and competitive scottish league.this is football, nae the gallows pole. Link to comment
Karl Fletcher Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The rules are simple. You get liquidated, you have to apply to the THIRD div. No if's no buts. NO FKN RULE CHANGES TO SUIT THE FKN OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that a Rule though? If it is, and they don't adhere to it, then I'd be a lot more willing to change my tune. Link to comment
The Highland Don Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm not saying I disagree with any of what's been said, I just think it's a rather bold statement to come out with. I understood Tup's point dinna get me wrong but fae my point of view, it doesn't matter if you've been putting money into the club before or after, we're still all on the same level. Logic being, a lot of us here are still going to the cup semi after what's been revealed in the past month or so. I get everyone's opinions on it all, if more comes out than what's already been said about Rangers and they are found guilty of the previously mentioned things, then I will seriously consider turning my back on Scottish football. Be it Aberdeen or my membership with Scotland, until this is all said and done, at the moment without anything being cemented by the SFA/SPL/UEFA I'll stick by the Dons. I have a feeling there's more to be un-covered though which will sway a lot of fans thinking to deserting Scottish Football for good. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 what is it youre looking for? justice? personally i just want a fair and competitive scottish league.this is football, nae the gallows pole. if they are liquidated then they should be forced to start again and then we should implement a fairer structure to Scottish football Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is that a Rule though? If it is, and they don't adhere to it, then I'd be a lot more willing to change my tune. No "newco" can currently walk straight in at the top level Just makes a mockery of the whole set up Link to comment
tup Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 what is it youre looking for? justice? personally i just want a fair and competitive scottish league.this is football, nae the gallows pole. No, I'm imploring those voting 'yes' to see sense, and side with the majority who say a line must be drawn in the sand regards this cheating, which has been going on for far too long and which has ruined our league in the competitive sense. This shite we are subjected to right now is not the Scottish football I was brought up enjoying, I want that back, a levelling of the playing field. Carrying on blithely with your support renders that hope forlorn, if everyone stops going, it becomes reality very quickly indeed. Everyone needs to take a stand because Rangers influence in our society is very strong indeed as we are currently witnessing, it takes real guts to stand against that, that's my proposal, all do it as one. Link to comment
tup Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What if AFC vote against but they still get in? I'm fairly sure that cannot happen, we are a strong influence in Scottish football and I'm certain Hearts, United and Hibs are also against it. Therefore that's impossible. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What if AFC vote against but they still get in? The argument is against the SPL, if we have to make that sacrifice, then I am willing to do it for the good of INTEGRITY Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 No, I'm imploring those voting 'yes' to see sense, and side with the majority who say a line must be drawn in the sand regards this cheating, which has been going on for far too long and which has ruined our league in the competitive sense. This shite we are subjected to right now is not the Scottish football I was brought up enjoying, I want that back, a levelling of the playing field. Carrying on blithely with your support renders that hope forlorn, if everyone stops going, it becomes reality very quickly indeed. Everyone needs to take a stand because Rangers influence in our society is very strong indeed as we are currently witnessing, it takes real guts to stand against that, that's my proposal, all do it as one. sounds like you agree with me and just want football back. it pretty simple, i'm willing to forget, but only on the terms of the silent majority Link to comment
Crossbow Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 No, I'm imploring those voting 'yes' to see sense, and side with the majority who say a line must be drawn in the sand regards this cheating, which has been going on for far too long and which has ruined our league in the competitive sense. This shite we are subjected to right now is not the Scottish football I was brought up enjoying, I want that back, a levelling of the playing field. Carrying on blithely with your support renders that hope forlorn, if everyone stops going, it becomes reality very quickly indeed. Everyone needs to take a stand because Rangers influence in our society is very strong indeed as we are currently witnessing, it takes real guts to stand against that, that's my proposal, all do it as one. Absolutely agree if newhuns get in because they have money and nothing else happens then the SPL has in essence killed any justification for its existence as a sporting body - everyone else is there to make up the numbers. The money will flow to the bigot brothers and they will continue their duopoly forever. There is no sport only a glorified stage play where the outcome is effectively predetermined from the start. I'm not paying to watch the Sally and Lennon Show. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What if AFC vote against but they still get in? not a bad question bripod but I'd stick by my stance. AFC would still be playing in a league thats far too much in favour of only two side. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 They go on about the need to help the Scottish game AS A WHOLE.Well then if the huns bring so much to the table, then what better chance to inject their "GREATNESS" to all of Scottish football than to make then climb their way deservedly though the leagues.LIKE ANY OTHER FKN SIDE WOULD BE FORCED TO DO Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Interesting to see how many who wouldn't bother going to games any more bother going to games now. There's so many possibilities that can come from this it's just wait and see. I suspect many can't be arsed with AFC these days anyway and see this as a get out clause. As my 7th consecutive year as a season ticket holder (not that great a length of time in the scheme of things, but still, a lot of time and effort gone in) I do see my interest dwindling to a point where I won't get a season ticket next year. I would be planning on picking and choosing games. If I think there has been a stitch up after such a promising situation (i.e. one half of OF weakened, noises of resturctuing, chairman speaking out) then I am out. A points deudction doesn't swing it either, it would never happen for 10 teams in the league. If they are a new entity, they should act as one. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What if AFC vote against but they still get in? Still out. My point isn't about AFC, it is about the cartel running the Scottish game (as emphasised by SPL coming out against other 10 wanting to make things fairer. i.e. They are in cahoots with the Old Firm). Link to comment
The Highland Don Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 So you'd give up on AFC on something that was no fault if their own? That's primarily the reason why I'm saying yes at the moment to still attending games. Too many variables that we can't predict yet. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 So you'd give up on AFC on something that was no fault if their own? Yes what would be the point in supporting a club that plays in such a corrupt set up where there is virtually no chance of competing? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Can't believe there's actually even a debate on this. What's the point of having rules, if they ONLY apply to all the Scottish teams EXCEPT the OF? Bad enough that we've had to endure the farcical refereeing & media biased over the years (but were just accused of being paranoid) but to be blatantly given the finger in this way would just be the icing on the cake. FIFA, or UEFA should be getting involved in this to at least try & make this a just decision & ensure the the rules that WE have set in place are adhered to, otherwise they should be imposing (at very least) a European competition ban on the SPL. If UEFA threaten to take away Euro competition for 5 years, then maybe just maybe the SPL would cave & realise the implications of cheating domestically to ensure that both the OF are ensured of European games. Link to comment
K-9 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 So you'd give up on AFC on something that was no fault if their own?Some role hate Rangers more than they love Aberdeen. Personally wouldn't want to be part of the death of AFC should this scenario arise. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Some role hate Rangers more than they love Aberdeen. Personally wouldn't want to be part of the death of AFC should this scenario arise. terrible fishing attempt Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 That's primarily the reason why I'm saying yes at the moment to still attending games. Too many variables that we can't predict yet. What variables?????? the question is if a "newco" was allowed straight into the top flight, would you still attend (as in agree that this is ok) even though the rules would have to be changed just to suit the fkn huns Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 So you'd give up on AFC on something that was no fault if their own? No, I'd give up on football. Some role hate Rangers more than they love Aberdeen. Personally wouldn't want to be part of the death of AFC should this scenario arise. Are you not already part of a dying AFC? Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yes what would be the point in supporting a club that plays in such a corrupt set up where there is virtually no chance of competing? YOU MEAN LIEK WE ALREADY HAVE? sorry caps. mistake. teh old firm have gang banged us all for a few decades now. but yeah to accept this would be scandelous. Link to comment
donsfan1988 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 As the poll says... This poll must be passed onto the club!! Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 No, I'd give up on football. Are you not already part of a dying AFC? I'd go to junior games & pick & chose some foreign games to attend & completely boycott the SPL. Why should they get my cash when they are not interested in fair play or level playing fields? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This poll must be passed onto the club!! & linked to other teams fans forums. Anyone registered on other teams sites should post a link or encourage them to start similar threads/polls Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 YOU MEAN LIEK WE ALREADY HAVE? sorry caps. mistake. teh old firm have gang banged us all for a few decades now. but yeah to accept this would be scandelous. have a read of my other posts before jumping in. I already attend less than previous seasons as I find other things more enjoyable on a Saturday/Sunday. The league being so uncompetitive is part of that reason, the OF have sucked every last drop of blood out of this league and made it what it is. the lack of a competitive team has seen fans go back less and less and it only getting worse. Slowly over the years I've grown to resent the SPL and if the huns are allowed back in then that will be the final straw If by some miracle the "10" stand up for what is actually right here, change the voting structure and the way money is distributed which in turn gives teams a chance then I could see myself going back more as the experience could be better. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'd go to junior games & pick & chose some foreign games to attend & completely boycott the SPL. Why should they get my cash when they are not interested in fair play or level playing fields? Would probably just settle for the premiership. Link to comment
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