Spfl Referees Are Shite Thread

[mcdougall(4)]

 

 

Yep, you don't see many labourers, welders etc. refereeing games.

They all seem to be directors of companies, accountants etc.

Also, they must be getting close to £50k a year, for that type of money then surely it close to be a full time job.

There are multiple reasons for this, it's not some conspiracy to keep the working man down...

[shut up meg]

When you hear hooves, think horse

 

Not zebra

 

Do you have any suggestions? You question every other posters opinions but never contribute yourself.

[shut up meg]

There are multiple reasons for this, it's not some conspiracy to keep the working man down...

 

I'm just surprised that there appears to be no refs who are not professionals in their daily lives.

There must be at least one blue collar worker who is a shit hot ref?

[mcdougall(4)]

 

I'm just surprised that there appears to be no refs who are not professionals in their daily lives.

There must be at least one blue collar worker who is a shit hot ref?

It doesn't surprise me at all.

This is Scotland we're talking about here.

[shut up meg]

Yes

 

Improve

 

Ah well, that's it covered then.

Onwards and upwards.

[BWG]

Another shambles today

[Mouse]

2 hearts players a mile offside today and the linesman is more blind than Stevie Wonder. Beaton was poor also, he only literally got his cards right in the last 10 mins

[DelMonte]

Worst Ive seen this season. Completely lost control. The shambles offside decision where the linesman raised his flag and it was given explains it all. Both linesman and referee total inept.

[tiktak]

 

I'm just surprised that there appears to be no refs who are not professionals in their daily lives.

There must be at least one blue collar worker who is a shit hot ref?

 

Here is the reason then.

I was an amateur level ref many moons ago with good reports from assessors, highly recommended by Alan Ferguson. Then I go to the ref training nights at Jordanhill where they did all their fitness work. I get welcomed and in the course of the running and stuff I'm asked what I do for a living. I was a hospital porter. Without word of a lie they barely spoke to me from there on. "Career" went no further. Spoke to many other amateur refs and heard the same tale repeatedly. If you ain't one of them - ie. professional career outside of refereeing - then they don't want to know, not interested. That is why you will NEVER see a porter, labourer, shelfstacker, binman etc reffing games at the top level in Scotland. Shame really because these are the guys who are more likely to be focused on the refereeing than their shitty other job.

[shut up meg]

 

Here is the reason then.

I was an amateur level ref many moons ago with good reports from assessors, highly recommended by Alan Ferguson. Then I go to the ref training nights at Jordanhill where they did all their fitness work. I get welcomed and in the course of the running and stuff I'm asked what I do for a living. I was a hospital porter. Without word of a lie they barely spoke to me from there on. "Career" went no further. Spoke to many other amateur refs and heard the same tale repeatedly. If you ain't one of them - ie. professional career outside of refereeing - then they don't want to know, not interested. That is why you will NEVER see a porter, labourer, shelfstacker, binman etc reffing games at the top level in Scotland. Shame really because these are the guys who are more likely to be focused on the refereeing than their shitty other job.

 

 

Lol

 

Based on ABSOLUTELY nothing

 

@millertime

Here you go, my opinion is now backed up with a posters personal experience.

[shut up meg]

We all have different skill sets MT.

Just because they are not an accountant or solicitor doesn't mean they can't referee a game of football.

[1903Fitba]

Takes a shit load of skill to operate a phone and read a script you thick weegie fuck.

[V for Vendetta]

I notice you haven't given answers

The point is that Scotland is a small country population wise, then you start to decrease at all levels those willing to take part.

You end up with a small and shallow pool to pick from.

Furthermore, in this day and age of social media and internet bampoterry the toll being a ref in Scotland must put on your life.

Fuck that.

Answers? Werent they rhetorical questions?

 

Here you go though

No

Im too old to start working my way up as a ref

 

How does that help your argument?

[V for Vendetta]

 

Here is the reason then.

I was an amateur level ref many moons ago with good reports from assessors, highly recommended by Alan Ferguson. Then I go to the ref training nights at Jordanhill where they did all their fitness work. I get welcomed and in the course of the running and stuff I'm asked what I do for a living. I was a hospital porter. Without word of a lie they barely spoke to me from there on. "Career" went no further. Spoke to many other amateur refs and heard the same tale repeatedly. If you ain't one of them - ie. professional career outside of refereeing - then they don't want to know, not interested. That is why you will NEVER see a porter, labourer, shelfstacker, binman etc reffing games at the top level in Scotland. Shame really because these are the guys who are more likely to be focused on the refereeing than their shitty other job.

Does not surprise me at all. Exactly the sort of shite attitude I expect from people involved in our game tbh.

 

This is exactly what holds us back.

[V for Vendetta]

Haha BUT... the point you think you have proven

 

I kinda agree with

 

Why would you want someone devoid of skills as a ref?

It should be merit based with refs assessed on their refereeing and integrity.

 

Not prejudged based on a completely different skill set.

[tup]

You need to be a serious freemason first and foremost.

 

Everything else will stem from that. CV is unimportant. Who is your faither will be the only question.

 

See Andrew Dallas fast tracked to the top at 27 as glaring evidence.

[Guest milne_afc]

(I'm pretty sure) the Freemasons have a vigorous selection process. It's not like any T, D or H can enter the lodge.

[tup]

You would ken.

[Old Wing Stand]

(I'm pretty sure) the Freemasons have a vigorous selection process. It's not like any T, D or H can enter the lodge.

We have yes

[The Boofon]

You would ken.

You should look into the selection process Tup and see if its the part of the jigsaw missing from your life.

[tup]

No chance I will be joining @freemasons

[maryhilldon]

No chance. I will be joining @freemasons

Turncoat.

[Guest milne_afc]

Get yourself down to Breadalbane Terrace and tell them Brother Boofon sent you @@tup.

[mcdougall(4)]

You should look into the selection process Tup and see if its the part of the jigsaw missing from your life.

Only an idiot would think tups attitude isn't cos he got black balled in his early days of

[tup]

Get yourself down to Breadalbane Terrace and tell them Brother Boofon sent you @@tup.

No thanks, I dinna need hunnery to prosper, shower of hardcore bigots populate that place.

[tup]

Only an idiot would think tups attitude isn't cos he got black balled in his early days of

 

You're an idiot then.

[tiktak]

Does not surprise me at all. Exactly the sort of shite attitude I expect from people involved in our game tbh.

 

This is exactly what holds us back.

 

Their theory, which has been spoken about publicly in the past by our "top" referees, is that those in management level positions in their daily life are used to taking high pressure decisions and are therefore best placed to advance to the pro leagues.

[shut up meg]

To be fair that rings true

 

"Workies" are doing that job because they wouldn't handle the stress/scrutiny of "office" life

 

You've obviously never built anything bigger than a lego car.

Working in the office is a piece of piss compared to the workshop, especially when the equipment is safety critical.

[mcdougall(4)]

 

Their theory, which has been spoken about publicly in the past by our "top" referees, is that those in management level positions in their daily life are used to taking high pressure decisions and are therefore best placed to advance to the pro leagues.

Be interested to know if this is a Scottish issue or something in the ref fraternity as a whole.

[mcdougall(4)]

To be fair that rings true

 

"Workies" are doing that job because they wouldn't handle the stress/scrutiny of "office" life

You work in a modern day factory chai Walla...