New Stadium Approved

[StandFree1982]

Beginning to think most of the WANKS have given up the ghost on this. Wasn't expecting people to lie in front of the bulldozers but thought there would been at least a token protest "I'm so a angry I made a sign" type of thing ?

They'll have found something else to complain and protest about. New houses, or a fence being put up or the lack or wheelchair ramps in the local church. Also, most of them will have forgotten what they were even protesting about by now.

[shut up meg]

Seems a bit premature. Maybe more to it, but I can't say anymore than that.

 

Nat Fraser?

[Betty Swallicks]

Seems a bit premature. Maybe more to it, but I can't say anymore than that.

 

Gold? Platinum? Diamonds? Lithium?

 

Strike 40mils worth and a new stadium might be viable after all.

[Andy_123]

Aye surprised it's gone so quiet from them now that some actual work appears to have started. Especially after the fuss they made when the fence was put up.

 

Maybe someone they've been looking to for advice has told them to wise up a bit.

[Betty Swallicks]

Aye surprised it's gone so quiet from them now that some actual work appears to have started. Especially after the fuss they made when the fence was put up.

 

Maybe someone they've been looking to for advice has told them to wise up a bit and explained the stadium winna be built.

[V for Vendetta]

They are against the whole development though it seems. Training facilities and all.

[Dom Sullivan]

They are against the whole development though it seems. Training facilities and all.

They're against a'thing.

 

Stuarty Milne is a bad lad only in it to line his own pocket and build his shitty houses.

 

That's despite the Moosies Ear staying in one of Stuarty's hooses...

[Poodler]

 

Nat Fraser?

Hahahahaha

[RAZOR]

Whats the ice cream boys USP? Eg does he have unusual flavours etc.

 

 

Poop

[V for Vendetta]

Weve got some real thick fans who blindly think we can afford a new stadium.

 

Regardless of location we cant. Its simple arithmetic

Why not?

[minijc]

Weve got some real thick fans who blindly think we can afford a new stadium.

 

Regardless of location we cant. Its simple arithmetic

 

We can't even afford the training ground the now.

[V for Vendetta]

If we get to 2 cup finals each season and make over £1million pound profit from transfers we still require an investment in the club of £750 k in order that we could make a profit fir that year of £500k. This was our best year financially for over a decade and is not sustainable. Would you agree?

 

A new stadium n all likelihood would cost between 40-50 Million. We couldn’t sell the site of our current stadium in a good market for £9 Million so in reality £7mil would be a stretch target. As I’ve ssid before a mortgage for even £20 Million would cost C. £1.44Mil pa for 25years to pay back in the unlikely event the backs would lend a club that amount given the recent history of clubs defaulting and even one like ours with a very rich chairman who wouldn’t pay back debts previously, kept his hands in his deep pouches and let some other cunt save the day.

 

So in summary

A mortgage for half the amount the new stadium costs would see us losing £1mlion per year even if we got two both cup finals and made £2 Million each season in transfers/gifts

 

And that is your thesis to back up the unequivocal statement that we CANNOT afford a new stadium?

 

Its not very good is it?

 

You made up what we could get for selling Pittodrie

You made up how much a mortgage might cost

You made up how long the term of a mortgage might be

You made up that banks simply wouldn't lend us money

You made up that we cannot expect any further investment from Milne

 

You ignore the possibility of increased day to day income from the new facilities (museum, bar, cafe, face painters for hire, whatever)

You ignore the possibility of other outside investment (it doesn't just have to be from Milne)

You ignore the prospect of naming rights

You ignore running costs of our current dilapidated stadium

You ignore the relative lack of sponsorship appeal in a dilapidated stadium

You ignore the opportunities for new partnerships

You ignore the opportunities for additional use of a new stadium for other events like music gigs, rugby matches, international football etc)

 

And most of all you ignore that we are only at the early stages of starting to raise the money needed and there's no reason to expect the club to announce they have £50m in the bank ready to spend at this point.

 

So in summary

Your are looking for the most negative, miserable and desperately sad possible outcome because you like being a negative, miserable and desperately sad person.

 

So who is taking your "real thick fans" moany shite seriously? A: Only a complete mong.

 

Why don't we just wait and see what happens, they might raise the money, they might not.

[Don Fonte]

 

And that is your thesis to back up the unequivocal statement that we CANNOT afford a new stadium?

 

Its not very good is it?

 

You made up what we could get for selling Pittodrie

You made up how much a mortgage might cost

You made up how long the term of a mortgage might be

You made up that banks simply wouldn't lend us money

You made up that we cannot expect any further investment from Milne

 

You ignore the possibility of increased day to day income from the new facilities (museum, bar, cafe, face painters for hire, whatever)

You ignore the possibility of other outside investment (it doesn't just have to be from Milne)

You ignore the prospect of naming rights

You ignore running costs of our current dilapidated stadium

You ignore the relative lack of sponsorship appeal in a dilapidated stadium

You ignore the opportunities for new partnerships

You ignore the opportunities for additional use of a new stadium for other events like music gigs, rugby matches, international football etc)

 

And most of all you ignore that we are only at the early stages of starting to raise the money needed and there's no reason to expect the club to announce they have £50m in the bank ready to spend at this point.

 

So in summary

Your are looking for the most negative, miserable and desperately sad possible outcome because you like being a negative, miserable and desperately sad person.

 

So who is taking your "real thick fans" moany shite seriously? A: Only a complete mong.

 

Why don't we just wait and see what happens, they might raise the money, they might not.

Enjoyed that post min. +1

[RAZOR]

Weve got some real thick fans who blindly think we can afford a new stadium.

 

Regardless of location we cant. Its simple arithmetic

That was the generic statement about redevelopment. Turns out we can't afford either.

 

It's obviously reached a point of no return now. Can only hope they make a success out of it (they won't)

 

I do believe we'll lose more fans than we'll gain from it.

[King Street Loon]

And that is your thesis to back up the unequivocal statement that we CANNOT afford a new stadium?

 

Its not very good is it?

 

You made up what we could get for selling Pittodrie

You made up how much a mortgage might cost

You made up how long the term of a mortgage might be

You made up that banks simply wouldn't lend us money

You made up that we cannot expect any further investment from Milne

 

You ignore the possibility of increased day to day income from the new facilities (museum, bar, cafe, face painters for hire, whatever)

You ignore the possibility of other outside investment (it doesn't just have to be from Milne)

You ignore the prospect of naming rights

You ignore running costs of our current dilapidated stadium

You ignore the relative lack of sponsorship appeal in a dilapidated stadium

You ignore the opportunities for new partnerships

You ignore the opportunities for additional use of a new stadium for other events like music gigs, rugby matches, international football etc)

 

And most of all you ignore that we are only at the early stages of starting to raise the money needed and there's no reason to expect the club to announce they have £50m in the bank ready to spend at this point.

 

So in summary

Your are looking for the most negative, miserable and desperately sad possible outcome because you like being a negative, miserable and desperately sad person.

 

So who is taking your "real thick fans" moany shite seriously? A: Only a complete mong.

 

Why don't we just wait and see what happens, they might raise the money, they might not.

BOOOOM ©MT

[RAZOR]

Has anyone bothered to tell us what's happening with the club shop?

 

The stadium/training facilities is one thing but we surely we need a city centre based club shop?

[Don Fonte]

Has anyone bothered to tell us what's happening with the club shop?

 

The stadium/training facilities is one thing but we surely we need a city centre based club shop?

Already been announced. Kiosk in the Trinity Centre.

[Cults_Sheep]

Thwy ahould have bought the okd Millets shop.

 

First floor - kits accessories and tickets etc.

Lower floor - pub//social club, that shows highlights of all old games and shows the dons any time they are live. Surprised this hasn’t been thought of already, club would make a fortune

[RAZOR]

Already been announced. Kiosk in the Trinity Centre.

Just next to the looky looky dude selling bedazzled rhinestone mobile phone covers?

[Don Fonte]

Just next to the looky looky dude selling bedazzled rhinestone mobile phone covers?

Sharing his stall. We get priority on match days.

[Ernie McCracken]

Sharing his stall. We get priority on match days.

Not gonna happen.

 

This is just Milne spinning another yarn to keep you all onside.

 

Look at the figures. We can't afford 50% of a stall in the Trinity Centre.

 

Wake up sheeple.

[RAZOR]

Not gonna happen.

 

This is just Milne spinning another yarn to keep you all onside.

 

Look at the figures. We can't afford 50% of a stall in the Trinity Centre.

 

Wake up sheeple.

He only wants the land for flats.

[CraigHill]

And that is your thesis to back up the unequivocal statement that we CANNOT afford a new stadium?

 

Its not very good is it?

 

You made up what we could get for selling Pittodrie

You made up how much a mortgage might cost

You made up how long the term of a mortgage might be

You made up that banks simply wouldn't lend us money

You made up that we cannot expect any further investment from Milne

 

You ignore the possibility of increased day to day income from the new facilities (museum, bar, cafe, face painters for hire, whatever)

You ignore the possibility of other outside investment (it doesn't just have to be from Milne)

You ignore the prospect of naming rights

You ignore running costs of our current dilapidated stadium

You ignore the relative lack of sponsorship appeal in a dilapidated stadium

You ignore the opportunities for new partnerships

You ignore the opportunities for additional use of a new stadium for other events like music gigs, rugby matches, international football etc)

 

And most of all you ignore that we are only at the early stages of starting to raise the money needed and there's no reason to expect the club to announce they have £50m in the bank ready to spend at this point.

 

So in summary

Your are looking for the most negative, miserable and desperately sad possible outcome because you like being a negative, miserable and desperately sad person.

 

So who is taking your "real thick fans" moany shite seriously? A: Only a complete mong.

 

Why don't we just wait and see what happens, they might raise the money, they might not.

Great post which I summarise as; Captain Caveman is a cunt.

[reekie_dock]

He only wants the land for flats.

Youd love a flat next to primark ya tramp

[manboobs109]

Cavey getting made to look a total cock AGAIN. Keeps brassing it out though, fair play.

[V for Vendetta]

Mate that's far too much time spent on him

 

He said the same shite pages ago, got owned and trying to start it again

 

Ignore him

Cathartic though. ?

[King Street Loon]

Has anyone bothered to tell us what's happening with the club shop?

 

The stadium/training facilities is one thing but we surely we need a city centre based club shop?

It's a good point though.

Aberdeen really should open a shop in the center of town as it would be far handier for the passing trade.

One thing I don't think a lot of people will be doing is going out to Westhill just to buy a dons top or other merchandise. You may get passing trade with people popping out to Costco or Tesco or folk on their lunch break if they work in Westhill's famous Subsea hub but a club shop out there would be mostly like sleepy hollow.

A shop in the city center is a must for me.

[V for Vendetta]

V for Fuckwit

Hahahaha, thank you Cavey. Settles the nickname discussion at least.

[V for Vendetta]

It's a good point though.

Aberdeen really should open a shop in the center of town as it would be far handier for the passing trade.

One thing I don't think a lot of people will be doing is going out to Westhill just to buy a dons top or other merchandise. You may get passing trade with people popping out to Costco or Tesco or folk on their lunch break if they work in Westhill's famous Subsea hub but a club shop out there would be mostly like sleepy hollow.

A shop in the city center is a must for me.

Makes sense to have a shop in town.

 

They'd probably need a small shop open at Kingsford on match days only?

[Bamber]

If we get to 2 cup finals each season and make over £1million pound profit from transfers we still require an investment in the club of £750 k in order that we could make a profit fir that year of £500k. This was our best year financially for over a decade and is not sustainable. Would you agree?

 

A new stadium n all likelihood would cost between 40-50 Million. We couldn’t sell the site of our current stadium in a good market for £9 Million so in reality £7mil would be a stretch target. As I’ve ssid before a mortgage for even £20 Million would cost C. £1.44Mil pa for 25years to pay back in the unlikely event the backs would lend a club that amount given the recent history of clubs defaulting and even one like ours with a very rich chairman who wouldn’t pay back debts previously, kept his hands in his deep pouches and let some other cunt save the day.

 

So in summary

A mortgage for half the amount the new stadium costs would see us losing £1mlion per year even if we got two both cup finals and made £2 Million each season in transfers/gifts

 

 

As V has said so many holes

 

1st line our loss the financials for that year included a reassessment on pittodrie of -£2750000 without that we had a profit

 

2nd Pittodrie has been revalued recently not a £9million as you make up but by an external company as £15.35 million

 

3rd 20million mortgage cost of 1.44m Using a simple Mortgage calculator for a £200000 mortgage suggest a cost of £900 per month extrapolate that upwards and its £90000 per month = just over £1m per year. That assumes that 1 we don't get a commercial Mortgage rate which is likely less than a domestic rate and 2 we look at a 25 year mortgage

 

4th you disregard the running costs of Pittodrie we had "other operating expenses" of £3684000. A significant part will be the up keep of such an old stadium I have no idea what but even reducing our expenses and increasing revenue streams in a new stadium and achieving a net reduction of 25% would see a saving of £921000 (so our mortgage costs)

 

So V's summary is good. Your summary is less so and in fact a £20 million mortgage would likely be offset by reduction in costs associated with an old stadium and increase in potential revenue streams currently unavailable

 

 

Oh and an edit

 

Other income streams

 

Rhe community aspects of this is being heavily played why

 

Sport Scotland funding

Lottery funding

Scottish Government Funding

UK Government funding

SFA Funding

 

Just 5 off my head no real thought all will provides substantial funding to a community sports facilty