Graeme Shinnie.....

[Argo75]

Could have replaced him or Clarkson with Barron. We needed to win more ball in the 2nd half to try and put them under pressure. They were there for the taking, but we sat to deep again, had shades of Goodwin about it!

[sooth_stander]

7 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said:

Dare I say it not his best game caught out a few times and tired understandably, 

pin my opinion should have been subbed by Barron in second half 

Why is it understandable that he tired? He’s 32

[Tord31]

He could have been subbed at 80 mins or whenever it was we made our last sub but it would have been a big call.

There is a shout to leave him on the bench on Thursday. 

Barron and Polvara should come in anyway

[minijc]

13 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said:

Dare I say it not his best game caught out a few times and tired understandably, 

pin my opinion should have been subbed by Barron in second half 

The concern for me is that, at times in the first half he looked tired which is a big worry given we're just back from a break, maybe carrying an injury? 

[aberdeen1970]

Just now, Tord31 said:

He could have been subbed at 80 mins or whenever it was we made our last sub but it would have been a big call.

Correct. 

Finishing the game with a midfield 3 of Clarkson, Barron and Polvara would have been a big shout. 

We need another experienced hardworking midfielder to help out. Maybe we should have replaced the one we sold in the summer at the end of pre season training. 

[ahead on alphabet]

18 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

He could have been subbed at 80 mins or whenever it was we made our last sub but it would have been a big call.

There is a shout to leave him on the bench on Thursday. 

Barron and Polvara should come in anyway

Not really sure that you could say it was a big call. He was a complete passenger and everyone could see it. If you are playing defensively with 4 in midfield Infront of 5 defenders i don't see how it's a big call to swap out one of the completely ineffectual midfielders. Barron for Shinnie was totally obvious in my opinion.

[ahead on alphabet]

21 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Correct. 

Finishing the game with a midfield 3 of Clarkson, Barron and Polvara would have been a big shout. 

We need another experienced hardworking midfielder to help out. Maybe we should have replaced the one we sold in the summer at the end of pre season training. 

Is McGrath not a midfielder? 🤣 We would have finished with 4 midfielders and Duk Infront of them had the correct change been made

[Tord31]

7 minutes ago, ahead on alphabet said:

Not really sure that you could say it was a big call. He was a complete passenger and everyone could see it. If you are playing defensively with 4 in midfield Infront of 5 defenders i don't see how it's a big call to swap out one of the completely ineffectual midfielders. Barron for Shinnie was totally obvious in my opinion.

It was brave in that if we'd lost (like huns last season and paok this season) folk would point to the lack of leadership being more important than fresh legs

[ahead on alphabet]

3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

It was brave in that if we'd lost (like huns last season and paok this season) folk would point to the lack of leadership being more important than fresh legs

Christ though, you'd just ignore cunts like that because they haven't a fucking clue, no? Anyway the PAOK shambles was a completely different kettle of piss.

[Russell]

Not quite at it today, probably picked something up from those snotty kids/tinyweelad getting their calendars signed

[WesthillWanderersFC]

We’ve given him a 3 year contract, which seems generous. 

I think the loss of Ramadani, who did a similar role to Shinnie, has affected him negatively. 
It seems like he’s trying to do the job of 2 players and gets gassed early. 
We don’t have anyone else that comes close to replicating Ramadani. 

Priority in January has to be a Ramadani replica IMO. 

[Dynamo]

54 minutes ago, minijc said:

The concern for me is that, at times in the first half he looked tired which is a big worry given we're just back from a break, maybe carrying an injury? 

I think a lot of them looked tired/unfit

[Andy_123]

He was really poor today. Half a yard off the pace most of the game, his ball control was woeful and his passing not much better.

Barron should have been on for him during the second half

[Willo flood]

Terrible today, struggles to play once a week let alone 2/3 times. Can’t believe he got a 3 year deal.

Great player on his day but an alternative is needed in January 

[DelMonte]

Not sure it’s a fitness issue. The lack of technical ability was shown massively today. 

He looked as tired as everyone else which is worrying. 

[Rubin]

if he wins a header , it doesn't go anywhere

& he seems easily tackled

[Schapenneuker]

Well off the boil today.

Rest him on Thursday night and keep him for these cunts at Easter Road next Sunday.

[ABERDEENROWIE1903]

1 hour ago, Willo flood said:

Terrible today, struggles to play once a week let alone 2/3 times. Can’t believe he got a 3 year deal.

Great player on his day but an alternative is needed in January 

Not terrible he is fully committed that's for sure.

Hurts me to say he was to slow today and is brushed off ball to easily 

He first touch today very poor rarely controlled the ball and always a pace behind 

To honest needs to be replaced in the summer with a new Shinnie type player

Will always have my total respect but it's clear his better playing days are behind him

[ahead on alphabet]

1 minute ago, ABERDEENROWIE1903 said:

Not terrible he is fully committed that's for sure.

Hurts me to say he was to slow today and is brushed off ball to easily 

He first touch today very poor rarely controlled the ball and always a pace behind 

To honest needs to be replaced in the summer with a new Shinnie type player

Will always have my total respect but it's clear his better playing days are behind him

Not terrible? I think you've just defined terrible, in the sense of a midfielder that needs the exact opposite of how you have labelled him, in a very important game.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

4 minutes ago, ABERDEENROWIE1903 said:

Not terrible he is fully committed that's for sure.

Hurts me to say he was to slow today and is brushed off ball to easily 

He first touch today very poor rarely controlled the ball and always a pace behind 

To honest needs to be replaced in the summer with a new Shinnie type player

Will always have my total respect but it's clear his better playing days are behind him

This is true and also let’s be honest, he was surrounded by much better players last time too. 
 

im still glad to have him back cause I’m not sure who the alternatives would be, but he was never going to be as effective. 

[sooth_stander]

People saying he was “off the boil” today; how often has he actually been “on it”, since his January return?

[WesthillWanderersFC]

7 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

People saying he was “off the boil” today; how often has he actually been “on it”, since his January return?

His stamina levels have definitely declined, although the Ramadani sized hole we inexplicably didn’t fill, has not helped.

Technically, he’s never been great, so that’s not changed. 

His strength was always based on heart, desire, drive & stamina 
The heart & desire is still there, but he undoubtedly has lost stamina & his “legs are going”, think that’s pretty obvious. 
 

[aberdeen1970]

Despite Shinnie's limitations, which he's always had, you'd struggle to pick a better midfield without him from the current pool. 

[Don Fonte]

The fitness work in training is certainly not as at the forefront of Bazza's 'they can run' moniker as you'd think.

Shambles.

[Johnnyred1]

I think it's a bit like he really doesn't trust those around him and ends up trying to cover two or three positions but ultimately looks like a man possessed on steroids. Rather have him than not but his lack of skill and poise always shows up at the likes of Hampden and other bigger venues.

[sooth_stander]

13 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Despite Shinnie's limitations, which he's always had, you'd struggle to pick a better midfield without him from the current pool. 

Ok

But answer my question. How many good games has he had in the 35 odd games since his return? 5, tops?

[aberdeen1970]

6 minutes ago, sooth_stander said:

Ok

But answer my question. How many good games has he had in the 35 odd games since his return? 5, tops?

Had his best games alongside Ramadani imo. Funnily enough Ramadani had his best games alongside Shinnie. 

I think our style asks a lot of our midfielders physically and we're not blessed with athletes in midfield. 

[King Street Loon]

Having Shinnie running about like a mad man is not what Shinnie's game should be about now. Needs to know his limitations and be more disciplined. Would him sitting deep and being the midfielder cutting the ball out, spoiling things, passing to those who cam create, not be a better use of him?

I suppose its all about tactics and the manager knowing best combinations and hiw to get the best out of the players at his disposal. 

[Granite95]

Clearly missing having someone ala ramadani to do the runing around him

That attempted pass in the second half to Sokler was simply awful

[englishred]

Will be interesting to see what happens in january regarding the midfield. I fully expect Shinnie to stay obviously but we are in dire need of a Ramadani type in there.