BWG Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Maddison was no better than Christie, or GMS tbh.C'mon min Maddison was absolutely class. The sky is the limit for him. It wasn't his fault that McInnes had no clue what to do with him. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Right lads, All those who don’t want to play at wing back take one step forward. Oi Stewart and Maddison where the fuck do you think you’re going... Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Stewart is like a different player at Kilmarnock. He looks relaxed without a care in the world and seems to have license to try shit out.Look at the two goals he got recently. He'd never have scored them for us. Not sure what conclusions to draw. Are our players to scared to deviate from what theyve been told to do by Mcinnes for fear of being dropped? Can hardly believe that's the same player. Link to comment
Redstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Can hardly believe that's the same player.It exemplifies just how poor a manager Derek is...Lennon is streets ahead. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It exemplifies just how poor a manager Derek is...Lennon is streets ahead.Why did Hibs finish below Aberdeen last season? Link to comment
Redstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Why did Hibs finish below Aberdeen last season?Down to the Masons mate...Derek's in...Lennon not so much. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The league is boring, we will finish, at best, 5th, and at worst 6th. We are shite to watch. Disagree that the league is boring. Aberdeen are boring though. We've had poor runs before at the start of the season but we're absolutely being left behind this time round. Even at this early stage we're 9 points behind Hearts, quite a gap and struggle to see how we're going to close it given form, injuries and management. Link to comment
Tommy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Why did Hibs finish below Aberdeen last season?Less points. 2 Link to comment
Poodler Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Rose tinted glasses with Maddison. Largely anonymous. Obviously had talent. But was cursed working under our hun Link to comment
Panda Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It exemplifies just how poor a manager Derek is...Lennon is streets ahead.Yes, Neil Lennon is the reason why Greg Stewart is doing well at Kilmarnock.... 2 Link to comment
Redstar Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yes, Neil Lennon is the reason why Greg Stewart is doing well at Kilmarnock.... Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Rose tinted glasses with Maddison. Largely anonymous. Obviously had talent. But was cursed working under our hun Remember him coming on against Celtic and skinning everyone he wanted to. Looked every bit like he was playing in the wrong team setting up chances for Reynolds and Stockley. 1 Link to comment
Panda Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Remember him coming on against Celtic and skinning everyone he wanted to. Looked every bit like he was playing in the wrong team setting up chances for Reynolds and Stockley.I also remember Maddison in the league cup final, refusing to pass, trying to take them on himself, blowing our best chance at 0-0 with a long range shot when we had Celtic stretched and a through ball was the right decision. Maddison had talent, but he was not the player he is now when he was here. The fact Christie came into the side, played the same position, but did more said a lot. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 a manager who isnt scared to stand up to the big clubs.one who is willing to give youth players a decent chanceone who has fucking balls out instinctone who is willing to scout in europe for playersone who will drop players if they are off formone who wont sign washed up crocksoh and one that isnt a. sleekit rabbid hun bastard Who though? Who is it that supposedly ticks all these boxes? 2 Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I also remember Maddison in the league cup final, refusing to pass, trying to take them on himself, blowing our best chance at 0-0 with a long range shot when we had Celtic stretched and a through ball was the right decision. Maddison had talent, but he was not the player he is now when he was here. The fact Christie came into the side, played the same position, but did more said a lot. Wow. Celtic targeted him from the first minute and took turns to wipe him out. The chance you're on about he won the ball back, he got it back from Shinnie and took Brown and their midfield out the game with his control. Rooney was making a run but he played him in exactly the same way before or after that and the ball went out for a goal kick because Rooney was towing a caravan. But aye let's blame Maddison. Link to comment
BWG Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The tims were lining up to foul Maddison that day. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Less points. Rose tinted glasses with Maddison. Largely anonymous. Obviously had talent. Correct. Maddison had talent, but he was not the player he is now when he was here. The fact Christie came into the side, played the same position, but did more said a lot. Yep. Christie did way more for us that season than Maddison. For anyone to suggest otherwise is delusion and revisionism to an extreme. Link to comment
pocrawred Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On current form Shinnie leaving would be superb. Absolutely pish start to the season.Got to agree. I like the lad but from his performances won’t be a miss. If he goes hopefully it’s to an English team and not that cnts in govan! Link to comment
BWG Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I think people are just butthurt because he didn't want to come back. I don't blame him. Fucking being a creative number 10 and playing under McShit. 1 1 Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Correct. Annoyed that their take that he wasn't a team player was absolute nonsense. Look how good the cunt was ffs ..and how many chances we missed 3 1 Link to comment
Jeffrey de Visscher Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 He was on another planet of skill and vision, hence where he now plays. Christie was producing a huge number of goals and assists. We've now got fuck all. Exactly. He was wasted for a few months whilst we had him shoved out wide, similar to Christie in spells. How it takes mcinnes so long to realise that these players need to be played in the 10 role is sheer tactical negligence. Stewart another example now being played properly for Killie, look at the results. 1 Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I think people are just butthurt because he didn't want to come back. I don't blame him. Fucking being a creative number 10 and playing under McShit. I was glad he didn't come back.We improved once he was left out of the team. But as you say, he was being played out of position.If we had a decent manager who knew what he was doing, yeah, we would have seen the best of him, surely.Under those circumstances, I'd have been delighted to see him come back. Correct. Annoyed that their take that he wasn't a team player was absolute nonsense. I get the take on him being too greedy.That last game up at Ross County, he was horrifically wasteful.Trying to do too much on his own.Never picking the correct option when players were available. Though this may have been, or probably was a culmination of his frustration from the way he was being utilised by McInnes. Add him to the list of players who are superb with other teams, but shit with us under Delboy.Must be a fair length noo. Link to comment
Pubes Macdonald Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Cunt Maddison head and shoulders above any cunt in our team Mine seeing the cunt and thinking “this cunt is good at fitba” Link to comment
SheepieBaaBaa Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Perhaps the lesson here is that we need to play with a traditional no 10 whoever it is. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It's easy to say CL would have done this or that. The bottom line is that he hasn't done anything good enough to win a club he has been at any silverware and he has had plenty of chances he's not exactly new to management.As for last season? I think it was fairly common knowledge that in his role as DOF Levein identified and signed the players whereas Cathro's job was to coach them. So technically it was Levein's team last season he just didn't have a pre season with them as their actual manager.Just for the record what exactly is it that Levein has achieved in his managerial career to date that makes you say he "gets the job done at this level?" What has he done in your eyes that makes him stand out enough from the others for you to say that? It's a bit rich to say Levein would have given Celtic a better run in the cups had he been in McInnes' shoes these past few seasons considering Levein's very poor cup record as a manager that I have already highlighted (knocked out of the cups by three lower league clubs as Hearts manager).He has made a very good start this season I'll give him that. It's still very early days though.CL was in control of playing budget with Cathro. Now that he is clearly spending more that he is manager he has clearly sourced better players than Cathro could & the type that suits his playing style rather than Cathros experimentation shite.CL had Utd stronger than their budget at time would suggest & he clearly has Hearts stronger than they were.I am not saying CL is a great manager, nor even a good one. Just that he is decent 'at this level' & easily as good as McInnes if not better 'at this level' Saying CL is better than McInnes though at this level, doesn't mean saying he is a good manager. McInnes is pretty shite when it comes to tactics & any kind of plan B & he is far from the irreplaceable manager that some seem to think he is just because of the shite that preceded him with us. The circumstances during McInnes's time with us have fooled many into thinking he is far better than he actually is.He has improved the club OFF THE FIELD in many areas & full credit for that, made the club far more professional but on the playing side & his eye for talent is hit & miss at best. Yes he has sourced a couple of great finds but he has had TEN transfer windows to do this, so you would expect him to find a few in that time. Club is going backwards again, or rather our challengers are getting back to strength & McInnes is getting found out for the mediocre manager he is. Time to move him on. He's starting to fester Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The irony in all of this is that every season that goes by we are playing more and more like Levein's Hearts. Except Levein is better at sourcing the right players to play that system. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The irony in all of this is that every season that goes by we are playing more and more like Levein's Hearts. Except Levein is better at sourcing the right players to play that system.& he has bigger balls & an ability to come up with a plan B. Also plays with two wingers, an old school style No.10 & sometimes even two up front even though he was a disgusting defensive cock on numerous occasions.CL is shite but he makes his shite really fkn tough & hard to chew & get the stink offMcInnes is shite but the weak & watery kind but his verbal shite makes up for some of his other failings. Baffles with BS if you like. I would know Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Must try harderGot a few bites. Happy with that. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 CL was in control of playing budget with Cathro. Now that he is clearly spending more that he is manager he has clearly sourced better players than Cathro could & the type that suits his playing style rather than Cathros experimentation shite.CL had Utd stronger than their budget at time would suggest & he clearly has Hearts stronger than they were.I am not saying CL is a great manager, nor even a good one. Just that he is decent 'at this level' & easily as good as McInnes if not better 'at this level' Saying CL is better than McInnes though at this level, doesn't mean saying he is a good manager. McInnes is pretty shite when it comes to tactics & any kind of plan B & he is far from the irreplaceable manager that some seem to think he is just because of the shite that preceded him with us. The circumstances during McInnes's time with us have fooled many into thinking he is far better than he actually is.He has improved the club OFF THE FIELD in many areas & full credit for that, made the club far more professional but on the playing side & his eye for talent is hit & miss at best. Yes he has sourced a couple of great finds but he has had TEN transfer windows to do this, so you would expect him to find a few in that time. Club is going backwards again, or rather our challengers are getting back to strength & McInnes is getting found out for the mediocre manager he is. Time to move him on. He's starting to festerNot really understanding the point you're trying to make about Levein in comparing him to DM? That he's made Utd and Hearts stronger? Isn't that what McInnes has done with us since he came in? And let's face it making Hearts stronger after the Cathro's debacle wasn't really difficult. You also say CL has made Hearts and United stronger than their budgets would generally have dictated? Again McInnes has done that the past two seasons by finishing about Sevco twice in a row and they had prob 4x the budget DM had in each of those two seasons. Look I understand the point that many are making about McInnes' shelf life being up at AFC. Things do feel rather stale under him this season. But if CL is the yardstick of a manager who gets the job done at this level then McInnes definitely qualifies under the same category as 4x second places in a row, a cup win and two other cup finals demonstrate. He's far from perfect but twice his team has broken the points record for non old firm teams (and he did that whilst Sevco and Hearts were in the league). Levein has not outperformed McInnes at SPFL level regardless of the fact that his side have won their first 5 games this season. I just don't understand why you brought him up in comparison. Like you said yourself you're not even saying he's a good manager and you wouldn't want him anywhere near Aberdeen. So just seemed a strange comparison for you to make to try to discredit DM. 2 Link to comment
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