sooth_stander Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, BonnieDon said: Tony Watt, Jeandro Fuchs, Zander Clark, Stuart Findlay, Jamie Hamilton are all options but are they really that much better than what we've already got? I certainly feel we could improve on the options we have on the bench. Like others have said, Mowbray has a fair amount of expectation weighing on him. I'm hopeful that he can unravel a few hidden gems for us. For my money, the two things we lack are pace up front, and width. Niall McGinn coming off the bench doesn’t cut it for me. Forget about McLennan, he’s Cove level It’s a sad indictment on our youth system that we have nobody coming through the ranks that can come off the bench and add to the striking dept. Anderson was the last, 4/5 years ago and he was never going to be good enough. Liam Harvey might be the next but he’s only 16 and not ready to throw in There was mention of Jamie Hamilton last summer but let’s give Jack McKenzie a decent go at it in central defence. And Declan Gallagher has to come good sometime, let’s hope it’s soon. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: For my money, the two things we lack are pace up front, and width. Niall McGinn coming off the bench doesn’t cut it for me. Forget about McLennan, he’s Cove level It’s a sad indictment on our youth system that we have nobody coming through the ranks that can come off the bench and add to the striking dept. Anderson was the last, 4/5 years ago and he was never going to be good enough. Liam Harvey might be the next but he’s only 16 and not ready to throw in There was mention of Jamie Hamilton last summer but let’s give Jack McKenzie a decent go at it in central defence. And Declan Gallagher has to come good sometime, let’s hope it’s soon. Ethan Ross is thriving in the 10 role at Raith. Would have been more useful off the bench than mcginn and mclennan 2 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Ethan Ross is thriving in the 10 role at Raith. Would have been more useful off the bench than mcginn and mclennan Yes but he wants to start every week. Think he made the right move - for himself. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, RED_JOHN said: I want a different approach to our signings over the January transfer window. The names mentioned by BonnieDon above hardly get me excited at all. Let’s try other countries and see if we can unravel a gem somewhere. Someone that will get our bums off our seats when they have the ball….someone all the other teams in the league will be panicking at when they know his name is on our team sheet. Have we the ability to find such a player? The problem with that is work permits. Unless they are established internationals then it's a long drawn out process to try and get done in 30 days. Look at Ramirez. Took an age to get him over the line. If we are looking abroad i suspect the MLS will be our go-to. League finished and the coaching staff should know the players better than anyone. But Mowbray will be an English lower leagues man i'd imagine. Especially on our budget compared to Blackburn. Link to comment
slippers Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: The problem with that is work permits. Unless they are established internationals then it's a long drawn out process to try and get done in 30 days. Look at Ramirez. Took an age to get him over the line. If we are looking abroad i suspect the MLS will be our go-to. League finished and the coaching staff should know the players better than anyone. But Mowbray will be an English lower leagues man i'd imagine. Especially on our budget compared to Blackburn. The appointment of Mowbray is a disgrace if he’s a English lower league man. We already had someone in that mould why would we get someone like that in again. He had a lot of European stuff on CV so I would hope that’s why he’s appointed and we see 1 or 2 foreign players arrive each window now. If we ever want to punch above our weight we have to tap Into other markets that aren’t as saturated at the English one. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, slippers said: The appointment of Mowbray is a disgrace if he’s a English lower league man. We already had someone in that mould why would we get someone like that in again. He had a lot of European stuff on CV so I would hope that’s why he’s appointed and we see 1 or 2 foreign players arrive each window now. If we ever want to punch above our weight we have to tap Into other markets that aren’t as saturated at the English one. I hope you're right and i suppose we will find out next month. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, slippers said: The appointment of Mowbray is a disgrace if he’s a English lower league man. We already had someone in that mould why would we get someone like that in again. He had a lot of European stuff on CV so I would hope that’s why he’s appointed and we see 1 or 2 foreign players arrive each window now. If we ever want to punch above our weight we have to tap Into other markets that aren’t as saturated at the English one. So, as well as the Director of Football appointment, and the 1st team manager appointment, Cormack has also got the Head of Recruitment appointment wrong as well? Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Yes but he wants to start every week. Think he made the right move - for himself. Wanting to start every week for us when you've made little impact off the bench and been on loan is pretty unrealistic. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, RED_JOHN said: I want a different approach to our signings over the January transfer window. The names mentioned by BonnieDon above hardly get me excited at all. Let’s try other countries and see if we can unravel a gem somewhere. Someone that will get our bums off our seats when they have the ball….someone all the other teams in the league will be panicking at when they know his name is on our team sheet. Have we the ability to find such a player? NO. Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, shooftahmooftah said: NO. Neither do I. The January transfer window is going to give us a far greater reality of what signings we are going to make under a Cormack/Glass led Aberdeen. We definitely need improvement not a similar type to those who get fired out the door. Link to comment
Redtaz2 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 8:46 PM, aberdeen1970 said: Aye there's a lot of expectation being placed on Mowbray. Hopefully he's got better than Samuels up his sleeve. Yes and that’s his job so why not Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redtaz2 said: Yes and that’s his job so why not I didn't mean to imply there shouldn't be expectation on him. Comes with the job. Just that after the summer hit/miss ratio there's a bit of pressure on him to hit the ground running. If we'd signed well in the summer he'd have had longer to ease himself in. Link to comment
Redtaz2 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Ah ok in all honesty he’s not got much to improve on , but I wish him all the best as we are a fickle bunch here I admit when I saw longstaff coming I thought that’s an impressive signing how wrong I was Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Wanting to start every week for us when you've made little impact off the bench and been on loan is pretty unrealistic. Didn’t say he wanted to start for us every week. He just wants to start every week so that’s why he left… for first team football Link to comment
Zeus Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/tony-watt-set-quit-motherwell-25670867 Signing for the Dons Link to comment
slippers Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 18 hours ago, sooth_stander said: So, as well as the Director of Football appointment, and the 1st team manager appointment, Cormack has also got the Head of Recruitment appointment wrong as well? Depends what we go on to do in January onwards. But Scottish football has massive advantages over England in signing foreign players now with work permit rule it would be ridiculous to ignore that and keep trying to sign 95% of our players from a saturated market in England. I had hoped for a foreign appointment if I’m honest but will to give Mowbray a chance. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On current form I hope we don't go back in for Jamie McGrath. Link to comment
RED_JOHN Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 hours ago, BonnieDon said: On current form I hope we don't go back in for Jamie McGrath. He is a decent enough player so I wouldn’t be against him being signed for a small fee or a pre contract. We could loan them out Dean Campbell to help bring him on a bit as he is hardly featuring and this isn’t doing the lad any favours (being serious for a change about Deano). I hope we are trying to source a decent replacement for Hedges as he also seems to be heading out the door. Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ian harkes out of contract in summer. Spl player of month last month. Would add a goal threat from midfield and certainly offer more to the squad than ojo/Campbell/longstaff/jenks. 2 Link to comment
super_al Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: Ian harkes out of contract in summer. Spl player of month last month. Would add a goal threat from midfield and certainly offer more to the squad than ojo/Campbell/longstaff/jenks. Good god. 2 Link to comment
PondHopper Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 6:08 AM, aberdeen1970 said: MLS season almost over. Wonder if we have our eye on any free agents from over there. @PondHopper We should. But my realistic hope is for Tony Watt Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 hours ago, PondHopper said: We should. But my realistic hope is for Tony Watt Tony Watt ?♂️ He would just be yer another blatantly average level SPFL striker that can perform adequately for shitty sides but we sign them & are shite. Much like Main, May, Goodwillie, Stewart, JET & that striker I can’t remember from Caley, or County(Miles something?) & also Josh Magennis etc. The list goes on. We need to get away from signing average squad filler types that ‘might’ get us 10 goals (& always fail) & preferably take gambles on actual ones with potential to be good rather than known ‘average’ entities. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Dave Bus said: Ian harkes out of contract in summer. Spl player of month last month. Would add a goal threat from midfield and certainly offer more to the squad than ojo/Campbell/longstaff/jenks. Aye...6 in 80 odd games for Utd implies that... Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Dave Bus said: Ian harkes out of contract in summer. Spl player of month last month. Would add a goal threat from midfield and certainly offer more to the squad than ojo/Campbell/longstaff/jenks. As good at spotting a player as you were at centre half for the Dons ? Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 19 hours ago, PondHopper said: We should. But my realistic hope is for Tony Watt I would like to see a back-up striker for Ramirez, but Watt is not that guy Link to comment
PondHopper Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 15 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Tony Watt ?♂️ He would just be yer another blatantly average level SPFL striker that can perform adequately for shitty sides but we sign them & are shite. Much like Main, May, Goodwillie, Stewart, JET & that striker I can’t remember from Caley, or County(Miles something?) & also Josh Magennis etc. The list goes on. We need to get away from signing average squad filler types that ‘might’ get us 10 goals (& always fail) & preferably take gambles on actual ones with potential to be good rather than known ‘average’ entities. I was thinking he might be more of a hedges replacement down the road. In another post I already explained how an mls team in ohio worked a loan to buy deal perfectly for a south american center back and compared it to this ronnie hernandez mess. I'm not against what you are saying. Link to comment
PondHopper Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, afc1903mad said: I would like to see a back-up striker for Ramirez, but Watt is not that guy There are plenty of up and comers out there worldwide. Aberdeen FC could do well as an exposure route for many. Low initial fees with sign ons. Or bigger fees on a loan with option. Maybe better that way then pissing of the pl teams but not playing their loanees. Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I'd like to see us makes more move in the US transfer market. Ramirez looks absolutely quality. Another striker of that ilk however with pace. Avoid the Atlanta Utd reserve side. I'm hopeful Hernandez does return from loan as I think he could do well for us under Glass. Link to comment
PondHopper Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, BonnieDon said: I'd like to see us makes more move in the US transfer market. Ramirez looks absolutely quality. Another striker of that ilk however with pace. Avoid the Atlanta Utd reserve side. I'm hopeful Hernandez does return from loan as I think he could do well for us under Glass. Reporters in ATL saying ronnie set to return to aberdeen. Reporting in Aberdeen says Ronnie not coming back despite end of season and total lack of defenders at parent club. Link to comment
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