aberdeen1970 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, thurso said: One is on loan the other is under contract Loan to buy though isn't it? Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, thurso said: From what the guy who got interviewed on the abz podcast said I think they are completely different types of players Pat is stated as attacking midfielder, Barron as defensive but do we see Barron as a defensive midfielder, I don’t think we do. On paper different but I still think it’s one or other Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Is Barron a defensive midfielder? Sometimes a midfielder is just a midfielder. Link to comment
thurso Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Loan to buy though isn't it? Loan with first option to buy. He could be looked at in training and deemed not good enough. Hopefully not tho Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Is Barron a defensive midfielder? Sometimes a midfielder is just a midfielder. Unless they are CH or RB Link to comment
thurso Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Gee Man said: Pat is stated as attacking midfielder, Barron as defensive but do we see Barron as a defensive midfielder, I don’t think we do. On paper different but I still think it’s one or other By the sound of that interview pat doesn’t like to tackle, Barron will get stuck in 7 minutes ago, The Gee Man said: I’m not sure Ange is interested in Scottish youth! Unless Barron has a Asian granny They still need homegrown players for Europe. Just a rumour I heard on the grapevine 1 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, The Gee Man said: Unless they are CH or RB I just don't think Barron can be defined as a defensive midfielder Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: I just don't think Barron can be defined as a defensive midfielder I’m not sure he’s box to box. But I don’t see him as defensive either Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, The Gee Man said: I’m not sure he’s box to box. But I don’t see him as defensive either Midfield labels are just an excuse for them to be lazy cunts. Midfielders should be able to defend, attack and get up and down the pitch. Link to comment
CCB III Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Not been good enough since the return. The midfield was much improved Saturday with Shinnie and Rama. I recall Goodwin saying in pre season that he thought Barron would be best further forward, sort of where Clarkson has been playing. Now, normally I wouldn't be advocating for a loanee to be in ahead of a youth prospect, but Barron is refusing to commit and Clarkson is a superior player. The guys not even played 30 games in the Scottish Premiership and he's playing silly buggers. Link to comment
Russell Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, NEM said: Nae luck. Maybe he told the club he'd sleep on our offer, that's why he's nae signed yet. Top comment, would read again Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 That agent he's got is a right cunt. Fucked up with Considine, now looking like he's fucked up with Barron. Barron especially is only 18 months removed from a loan in League 2, and has been in atrocious form for a while now. He's in no position to be thinking he can do better than us at the moment. Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: That agent he's got is a right cunt. Fucked up with Considine, now looking like he's fucked up with Barron. Barron especially is only 18 months removed from a loan in League 2, and has been in atrocious form for a while now. He's in no position to be thinking he can do better than us at the moment. All Aberdeen youngsters coming through should be advised to steer well clear from them. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Ten Caat said: He's had plenty time to consider our offer. As has been said, there should now be a time limit imposed on Barron to either sign on the dotted line or have the contract offer withdrawn. We do have to have a bit of long term planning a regards the squad and if he's not going to be here in summer 2024 we can start making plans to bring in someone else to cover that position. Whilst I wouldn't completely banish him from first team action in the interim, I'd make it clear that others will be ahead of him under normal circumstances. And FWIW I think Goodwin was right to say what he has. Absolutely he has, Agreed on all above that as well. 5 hours ago, NEM said: Nae luck. Maybe he told the club he'd sleep on our offer, that's why he's nae signed yet. 😆 Bosker. Link to comment
Daisy1903 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Andy_123 said: That agent he's got is a right cunt. Fucked up with Considine, now looking like he's fucked up with Barron. Barron especially is only 18 months removed from a loan in League 2, and has been in atrocious form for a while now. He's in no position to be thinking he can do better than us at the moment. Agree the agent fucked Considine but I'd be surprised if he doesn't manage to get Barron a wage rise when leaving us. Surely the client's financial wellbeing would be the agent's priority. Unfortunately loyalty and a chance of winning something or playing in Europe would be deprioritised 1 Link to comment
Daisy1903 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 11 hours ago, The Gee Man said: I’m not sure Ange is interested in Scottish youth! Unless Barron has a Asian granny Herro Mrs Ballon 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 hours ago, strachanmcgheegoal said: Pat. Like it. Using that. Always delivers etc etc Pat will come good we back Pat Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, Daisy1903 said: Agree the agent fucked Considine but I'd be surprised if he doesn't manage to get Barron a wage rise when leaving us. Surely the client's financial wellbeing would be the agent's priority. Unfortunately loyalty and a chance of winning something or playing in Europe would be deprioritised Run that winning something past me again please. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Daisy1903 said: Agree the agent fucked Considine but I'd be surprised if he doesn't manage to get Barron a wage rise when leaving us. Surely the client's financial wellbeing would be the agent's priority. Unfortunately loyalty and a chance of winning something or playing in Europe would be deprioritised Surely an agents priority should be his clients long term career not making a fast buck in the short term? If they weren't all fucking snakes that is Link to comment
Parklife Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Agent probably filling his head with stories of all the clubs he's spoken to and who are interested in Barron and how much money he could make. Then after about 15 games for us he's got ideas way above his station. He'd definitely be better served signing a new deal as one of our biggest earners and with a release clause of some kind in it. That'll see him right in the short term financially and also enable him to get the move he wants down the line. Not so easy for a young boy to see the sensible long-term option when his head has been filled with £'s though. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Parklife said: Agent probably filling his head with stories of all the clubs he's spoken to and who are interested in Barron and how much money he could make. Then after about 15 games for us he's got ideas way above his station. He'd definitely be better served signing a new deal as one of our biggest earners and with a release clause of some kind in it. That'll see him right in the short term financially and also enable him to get the move he wants down the line. Not so easy for a young boy to see the sensible long-term option when his head has been filled with £'s though. His abilities do not justify him being among our biggest earners. 4 Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: His abilities do not justify him being among our biggest earners. The way he’s behaving it’s like no club will actually meet his demands. He’s a 20 year old who’s played 30 pro games, deary me. Link to comment
thurso Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: The way he’s behaving it’s like no club will actually meet his demands. He’s a 20 year old who’s played 30 pro games, deary me. What wage is he on now and what is he demanding to sign a longer contract Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, thurso said: What wage is he on now and what is he demanding to sign a longer contract Currently still on YTS £28.50pw He wants £2850 Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 He’s probably on pennies to be fair. He won’t have been on much when his level was league 2 on loan at Kelty. His agent has probably filled his head about getting something like £5k a week down south. I hope we aren’t offering him anything like that. Half that would be a fairer reflection on his abilities. Link to comment
zeroisgod76 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: He’s probably on pennies to be fair. He won’t have been on much when his level was league 2 on loan at Kelty. His agent has probably filled his head about getting something like £5k a week down south. I hope we aren’t offering him anything like that. Half that would be a fairer reflection on his abilities. At the moment there's nothing to even suggest he's worth £2.5k per week. 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: His abilities do not justify him being among our biggest earners. Totally agree Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Withdraw the contract offer and sell him immediately to the highest bidder. Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I’m not sure his stock is that high anymore, unfortunately. Summer seems the logical time to sell him. Maybe if we loan him out now to a league one in England, he will excel and we might get a better price. Just a thought Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Yeh loan could be a good option actually. Link to comment
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