Joe pike Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnyred1 said: Tired? He was standing next to the guy just inside the box and stopped. I suggest you watch the highlights. Exactly he just stood and watched him. Made no attempt to mark him. Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, dj_bollocks said: He'd be better off going on loan somewhere to get game time to finish off his cycling proficiency badges.... It's all very well him being fast but if he's got no finish he's nowhere near good enough to be playing for us. He's nearly 22. We binned off much more developed talent (more's the pity) before that age in the past so heaven only knows what they see in this guy that makes them think he's got a successful future at the club. Who are some examples of those who had much more developed talent, but were binned off by us before age 21? Link to comment
redcryptoknight Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 53 minutes ago, Joe pike said: Has it ? How many times did he beat the 1st man with his cross? If you don't know or can't remember there's no point me arguing about it with you. Link to comment
NorfolkDandy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, minijc said: He had run himself into the ground and probably shouldn't have been on the pitch at that point. You do this 'type of comment' a lot Whilst I absolutely agree with a fair bit of what you say, including the above, in isolation, however, a dog with a bone does spring to mind 1 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, konkas08 said: Was very decent yesterday, wondering what peoples thoughts are on him so far? he’s not the finished article yet and needs improvement on final balls etc but he looked lively. Robson clearly rates him (or doesn’t trust his other wing backs) I said yesterday he surprised me, and he did. He wasn't as shit as I expected him to be. Robson likes him, said so in his post match interview. Said there's something there he thinks he can improve and develop in him and Polvara. However, for me, the sooner we get central defensive reinforcements we can get Devlin or Dadia out in the RWB role and Morris can work on attacking, control and final ball. Link to comment
RUL Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said: If you don't know or can't remember there's no point me arguing about it with you. Not to shite on your parade but he attempted 7 crosses and 0 found an Aberdeen player according to the stats Link to comment
redcryptoknight Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, RUL said: Not to shite on your parade but he attempted 7 crosses and 0 found an Aberdeen player according to the stats Statistics are great and all, but I watched the actual game. Link to comment
minijc Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, NorfolkDandy said: You do this 'type of comment' a lot Whilst I absolutely agree with a fair bit of what you say, including the above, in isolation, however, a dog with a bone does spring to mind Fit the fuck are you on about? I can't recall making a comment like that recently, it wasn't a dig at anyone, he was knackered and probably should have been subbed, we lack options so he wasn't Link to comment
The Hulk Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 A massive step in the right direction, he was direct, brave and largely had the beating of Taylor going forward. If he can improve his crossing and as a young lad it will improve (48% pass completion rate over the two games which is poor), we could have a very good player on our hands. He was exciting to watch in possession, and we need a couple of crowd pleasers in this team. Looking at where his crosses ended up, sometimes it's the little nuances of the game that are to blame rather than the actual quality of the cross. For me, he possibly on occasion needs to cross a bit earlier for forwards to run on to, because I think alot of his crosses came from within 10 yards of the byeline by which time the box is crowded and the shape of the cross is a bit more square; eg he beats his man and takes another touch to properly get by him before crossing. If he can get that positive touch away from the defender and then "first time" whip it in with a bit more shape on it, a bit more diagonal, then we could see some magic. 1 Link to comment
Johnnyred1 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Perhaps a 6 month loan to a championship team would help develop him in the right direction. Gain playing time and confidence. 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnnyred1 said: Perhaps a 6 month loan to a championship team would help develop him in the right direction. Gain playing time and confidence. He’s clearly going nowhere & Robson likes him. It’s a bit strange though that we have a winger who struggles to cross a ball. Link to comment
Joe pike Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said: Statistics are great and all, but I watched the actual game. You watch a different game then ? Link to comment
Dandys1983 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 In Sutton's team of the week Link to comment
Joe pike Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dandys1983 said: In Sutton's team of the week Proves my point then. 2 1 Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, minijc said: He had run himself into the ground and probably shouldn't have been on the pitch at that point. Yeah he generally had a pretty good game, as did Polvara, but both should have been replaced about 60 mins in as it was obvious they were both knackered. Dadia and Barron could have replaced them and given us some fresh energy. Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 41 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: He’s clearly going nowhere & Robson likes him. It’s a bit strange though that we have a winger who struggles to cross a ball. Like Matty Kennedy with pace. Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, The Hulk said: Looking at where his crosses ended up, sometimes it's the little nuances of the game that are to blame rather than the actual quality of the cross. For me, he possibly on occasion needs to cross a bit earlier for forwards to run on to, because I think alot of his crosses came from within 10 yards of the byeline by which time the box is crowded and the shape of the cross is a bit more square; eg he beats his man and takes another touch to properly get by him before crossing. If he can get that positive touch away from the defender and then "first time" whip it in with a bit more shape on it, a bit more diagonal, then we could see some magic. Robson has previously made reference to hitting teams early and getting the ball moving forward quickly before they're set. So this point ties in perfectly with something Robson should be able to identify as an issuse. Hopefully they can work on that and we get to see an improved end product from him. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, The Hulk said: A massive step in the right direction, he was direct, brave and largely had the beating of Taylor going forward. If he can improve his crossing and as a young lad it will improve (48% pass completion rate over the two games which is poor), we could have a very good player on our hands. He was exciting to watch in possession, and we need a couple of crowd pleasers in this team. Looking at where his crosses ended up, sometimes it's the little nuances of the game that are to blame rather than the actual quality of the cross. For me, he possibly on occasion needs to cross a bit earlier for forwards to run on to, because I think alot of his crosses came from within 10 yards of the byeline by which time the box is crowded and the shape of the cross is a bit more square; eg he beats his man and takes another touch to properly get by him before crossing. If he can get that positive touch away from the defender and then "first time" whip it in with a bit more shape on it, a bit more diagonal, then we could see some magic. I think the reason he failed to beat the first man was he felt he needed to look up and take a touch, giving time for the defender to get back or across to block. A few more earlier balls just stuck into the right areas without worrying about who might be there might work out for him. Other than that, he skinned his man several times, had a couple of great dribbles as well as pace. Defensively, not as good. Caught him ball watching a few times as he was right in front of me, and allowed players a free run into the box on a few occasions. Link to comment
NorfolkDandy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, minijc said: Fit the fuck are you on about? I can't recall making a comment like that recently, it wasn't a dig at anyone, he was knackered and probably should have been subbed, we lack options so he wasn't That's a standard reply, too, when you're pulled up You often have veiled digs, the one I referenced is one of those as far as I'm concerned Like I said previously, though, I agree with you more than you probably think 👍 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, minijc said: Fit the fuck are you on about? I can't recall making a comment like that recently, it wasn't a dig at anyone, he was knackered and probably should have been subbed, we lack options so he wasn't This is correct. We had fuck all options so he played longer than he should have as he put in a hell of a shift. Once we offload the ones that don’t want to be here and get the 3/4 in that Robson has mentioned then it’s a whole different story. Morris has serious pace and with some more coaching he would be perfect to bring on near the end of a game when we need an out ball. Link to comment
Daisy1903 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 hours ago, The Hulk said: A massive step in the right direction, he was direct, brave and largely had the beating of Taylor going forward. If he can improve his crossing and as a young lad it will improve (48% pass completion rate over the two games which is poor), we could have a very good player on our hands. He was exciting to watch in possession, and we need a couple of crowd pleasers in this team. Looking at where his crosses ended up, sometimes it's the little nuances of the game that are to blame rather than the actual quality of the cross. For me, he possibly on occasion needs to cross a bit earlier for forwards to run on to, because I think alot of his crosses came from within 10 yards of the byeline by which time the box is crowded and the shape of the cross is a bit more square; eg he beats his man and takes another touch to properly get by him before crossing. If he can get that positive touch away from the defender and then "first time" whip it in with a bit more shape on it, a bit more diagonal, then we could see some magic. Just aim away from the first man or put some height on it Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 hours ago, redcryptoknight said: Statistics are great and all, but I watched the actual game. So you SEEN the 7 crosses and none going to one of our players then? 2 Link to comment
Tommy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 He’s obviously work in progress, needs games and hopefully gets better and better. Link to comment
redcryptoknight Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Millertime said: So you SEEN the 7 crosses and none going to one of our players then? I saw balls into the box that looked dangerous but nobody got on the end of them. I also saw him winning corners, but unlike Celtic we didn't make anything out of our corners either. Link to comment
Roberto Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 How can a cross be dangerous if it doesn't beat the first Celtic defender in the box? That's genuine. 1 Link to comment
Millertime Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, redcryptoknight said: I saw balls into the box that looked dangerous but nobody got on the end of them. I also saw him winning corners, but unlike Celtic we didn't make anything out of our corners either. I agree with you that he looked better But I dont know If it was purely because he has been SO poor up until now, or if he was genuinely decent Link to comment
Rico1903 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 To be fair, I think Taylor was really struggling to handle him until he tired. Link to comment
RUL Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Millertime said: I agree with you that he looked better But I dont know If it was purely because he has been SO poor up until now, or if he was genuinely decent I think it’s similar with Polvara. They are now operating at a higher level than before but this in itself is no achievement. People think they can keep on improving. Hopefully they are right as neither is good enough imo. 1 1 Link to comment
McPhee123 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Posted on Insta saying "back soon" so imagine he'll be out for a while... Link to comment
Awayfromhomered Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, McPhee123 said: Posted on Insta saying "back soon" so imagine he'll be out for a while... 🤞 1 Link to comment
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