The Hulk Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Any reasonably minded football person could have seen for some time now that he’s out of his depth. Rangers win bought him time for some quite understandably but I personally didn’t buy it. Imagine you are a player in this squad. The club spends all that money on players (and contracts) and then the manager instructs you to play anti-football. You’re sitting in that dressing room scratching your head wondering what the fuck am I doing here? When can I get out of here? It’s one thing going down with a fight, which is what Robson has been dining out on all season, but it’s another thing entirely losing when not playing any football at all. This manager has shown no adaptability and he has to go tomorrow. 1 9 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Roberto said: Why? So keep him until season becomes nothing? 13 minutes ago, Millertime said: What? I don't think we've seen enough yet that merits a sacking but yes, i think, its inevitable. FWIW i think he'll survive to 2024 1 Link to comment
Roberto Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I don't think we've seen enough yet that merits a sacking but yes, i think, its inevitable. FWIW i think he'll survive to 2024 So it's inevitable but don't sack him yet... Erm... Great logic Link to comment
DD1903 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I don't think we've seen enough yet that merits a sacking but yes, i think, its inevitable. FWIW i think he'll survive to 2024 Have you missed a lot of our games ? Link to comment
Schapenneuker Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Thing that rips ma knitting is that 1 to 11, we actually have a team of decent footballers. A team that was good enough to compete in Frankfurt, that destroyed the huns at Ibrox, and should, should, should have beaten a good European side in PAOK. So what the problem ? Let's look at the common thread in all these 3 performances.....5-4-1 formation, and no Duk starting. But then Robson stumbles back into the broken record of 5-3-2 and the useless Duk starting.....a formation that we're not comfortable with or suited to, and a disinterested forward with no confidence or form taking up a shirt. It's like footballing suicide, and we keep on committing it week after week. We have the basic ingredients there to be succesful, but Robson seems determined not to use them correctly. A huge week coming up. Another 2 performances like today's and there'll be no way back for Robson with the fans. 3 Link to comment
Proud Dandy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ke1t said: Genuinely can’t listen to all of that shite. What a load of gibberish as per, “you can’t pass the ball on that pitch”. To say we lost today because we didn’t change enough of the team is embarrassing too, nothing to do with shelling it all game to two of the most technically gifted strikers in the spfl rather than passing to feet. Christ the irony we got rid of the opposition manager and a few years later we end up with someone even more negative but with zero tactical nous. PS- I also wanted McInnes out/don’t want him back before anyone starts. Link to comment
ahead on alphabet Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Roberto said: So it's inevitable but don't sack him yet... Erm... Great logic I've heard this a lot. Makes no sense at all. Link to comment
Dandys1983 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said: Thing that rips ma knitting is that 1 to 11, we actually have a team of decent footballers. A team that was good enough to compete in Frankfurt, that destroyed the huns at Ibrox, and should, should, should have beaten a good European side in PAOK. So what the problem ? Let's look at the common thread in all these 3 performances.....5-4-1 formation, and no Duk starting. But then Robson stumbles back into the broken record of 5-3-2 and the useless Duk starting.....a formation that we're not comfortable with or suited to, and a disinterested forward with no confidence or form taking up a shirt. It's like footballing suicide, and we keep on committing it week after week. We have the basic ingredients there to be succesful, but Robson seems determined not to use them correctly. A huge week coming up. Another 2 performances like today's and there'll be no way back for Robson with the fans. But the 5-4-1 is used against sides where they feel we are underdogs, unfortunately our management team have no clue how to break down the Killies the livi's etc. that's where we are totally flawed. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Jigsaw666 said: Not even a question that's debatable. Our squad has the capability to come third, Robson has us tenth. How can anyone debate the OP question. But the expectation is surely to be third by quite some way, which should be achievable given how much we've spent and how bang average some of the other teams are. We just keep on taking 1 step forward and 3 steps back. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I don't think we've seen enough yet that merits a sacking but yes, i think, its inevitable. FWIW i think he'll survive to 2024 Like a wife who’s beaten & comes back for more. Link to comment
CCB III Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, CraigHill said: We can keep firing managers if we keep employing ones that are inexperienced / shite / combination of both. Expensive, but necessary habit. Get him tae fuck! That's the long and short. You can keep sacking incompetent managers. What we can't do is keep hiring incompetent managers. 1 Link to comment
G man Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said: Thing that rips ma knitting is that 1 to 11, we actually have a team of decent footballers. A team that was good enough to compete in Frankfurt, that destroyed the huns at Ibrox, and should, should, should have beaten a good European side in PAOK. So what the problem ? Let's look at the common thread in all these 3 performances.....5-4-1 formation, and no Duk starting. But then Robson stumbles back into the broken record of 5-3-2 and the useless Duk starting.....a formation that we're not comfortable with or suited to, and a disinterested forward with no confidence or form taking up a shirt. It's like footballing suicide, and we keep on committing it week after week. We have the basic ingredients there to be succesful, but Robson seems determined not to use them correctly. A huge week coming up. Another 2 performances like today's and there'll be no way back for Robson with the fans. You make a lot of valid points. 1 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I just don’t get what his whole idea of football is. It’s a clear instruction to go long. Why are we doing that with a squad with players like McGrath, Barron, Clarkson and Polvara who are capable of playing through the lines. The RCB and LCB never step out with the ball either, they’ll either lump it long or look for their full back who receives the ball facing the wrong way and can’t do anything with it. Gartermann today had an easy pass but his first thought was go long, by the time he processed this he lost the ball. The whole structure to build attacks is completely missing. If we were losing games trying to pass out from the back I dare say I could forgive it but losing playing this brand of football means he has to go tomorrow. We can’t keep it going, it won’t improve at this stage. Link to comment
Schapenneuker Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I would also point out that the last time we put in such an awful performance at Rugby Park, Alex Miller was sacked the next day. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 58 minutes ago, DD1903 said: Have you missed a lot of our games ? I was watching today thinking thank fuck i do miss games. Awful Link to comment
JamieMT Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Right now David Martindale's the longest serving manager in the SPL, prior to which Livingston were hardly a hub of stability. There's been significant churn at every other SPL club, but Hearts, Hibs, Huns et al., aren't subject to the same scrutiny from the media when it comes to sacking managers. Elsewhere sackings are seemingly justified. There were no calls for Beale, Johnson or MacLean to be given more time, but Barry seemingly deserves it. Despite Robson having a great run as caretaker, Cormack and/or the FMB should have had the strength to thank him for his efforts, then appoint an experienced manager capable of moving us forward. It's blatantly obvious he's massively out of his depth. He needs removed of his responsibilities and replaced by a manager who's earned the right to manage one of Scotland's biggest clubs. And bad optics or talk of living in the 80s shouldn't change that. We're fortunate in that we have the funds to be able to go into the market and recruit a proven manager. Do that and the managerial turnover will stop. 4 Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Tord31 said: I don't think we've seen enough yet that merits a sacking but yes, i think, its inevitable. FWIW i think he'll survive to 2024 It’s a coming razpis. Look at the table. Same points as Ross county. I don’t think Robson has the know how to win the game in hand against Dundee. Motherwell Wednesday and Hibs on Saturday lose these 2 games, and Dave Cormack needs to waken up and let Robson go. If he doesn’t it’s a relegation battle until the end of the season. If it was Celtic , or Sevco in this position their manager would be long gone. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Dynamo said: He'll get a little longer but there's an inevitability about it. He'll get till the semi. But in my opinion it's more damaging to retain him now. He's got to go. 1 Link to comment
englishred Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, The Hulk said: Any reasonably minded football person could have seen for some time now that he’s out of his depth. Rangers win bought him time for some quite understandably but I personally didn’t buy it. Imagine you are a player in this squad. The club spends all that money on players (and contracts) and then the manager instructs you to play anti-football. You’re sitting in that dressing room scratching your head wondering what the fuck am I doing here? When can I get out of here? It’s one thing going down with a fight, which is what Robson has been dining out on all season, but it’s another thing entirely losing when not playing any football at all. This manager has shown no adaptability and he has to go tomorrow. Absolutely all this. And what's more is the fact he himself was a midfielder yet seems happy to play a way to completely bypass the midfield even with in spfl terms good passing players in there Link to comment
RAZOR Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Schapenneuker said: Thing that rips ma knitting is that 1 to 11, we actually have a team of decent footballers. A team that was good enough to compete in Frankfurt, that destroyed the huns at Ibrox, and should, should, should have beaten a good European side in PAOK. So what the problem ? Let's look at the common thread in all these 3 performances.....5-4-1 formation, and no Duk starting. But then Robson stumbles back into the broken record of 5-3-2 and the useless Duk starting.....a formation that we're not comfortable with or suited to, and a disinterested forward with no confidence or form taking up a shirt. It's like footballing suicide, and we keep on committing it week after week. We have the basic ingredients there to be succesful, but Robson seems determined not to use them correctly. A huge week coming up. Another 2 performances like today's and there'll be no way back for Robson with the fans. A lot of that was said about Craig Brown's team. Which turned out to be right. We just needed the right man to come in and bring it all together. Link to comment
milne_afc Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, King Street Loon said: He'll get till the semi. But in my opinion it's more damaging to retain him now. He's got to go. If he’s binned after the semi, the new man has a double header against the filth. He should be sent packing tomorrow. 1 2 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, milne_afc said: If he’s binned after the semi, the new man has a double header against the filth. He should be sent packing tomorrow. I'm all for that Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Not that they are a club we should follow, but Sevco knew Beale was a car crash and taking them the wrong way, not connecting with the players and letting the club down. They acted quickly and decisively Link to comment
Willo flood Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, milne_afc said: If he’s binned after the semi, the new man has a double header against the filth. He should be sent packing tomorrow. Highly doubt we’d have a new gaffer in for the Celtic game if Robson is only sacked the week before. Rangers at home would be the perfect way to start of your career at Aberdeen Link to comment
DD1903 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Willo flood said: Rangers at home would be the perfect way to start of your career at Aberdeen Will need a Time Machine for that… Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Definitely needs to go. Preferably before we are binned from both domestic cups & league still has ‘euro’ positions to fight for. Don’t fkn delay until he kills all the above as well. Learn lessons from Goodwin Shambles ffs. I will not be getting up early to watch ANY more abomination games whilst he’s here. I will just be a ‘score checker’ until the dirge has left the building Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Survey says 92% Fkoff! Thats pretty conclusive even if just from roughly 100 so far. Should have made poll so can view who the sentimentalist dafties are though Link to comment
Willo flood Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, DD1903 said: Will need a Time Machine for that… How? Link to comment
DD1903 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Willo flood said: How? rangers are dead. Link to comment
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