Big Man Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well now... This changes everything.... Link to comment
Dynamo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'd give both the Williams sisters a go. Williams sisters.Rebekah Brooks. You certainly have different taste. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Amazing how a thread about David GoodWillies charges being dropped has transcended into a "Would you shag the William Brothers?" thread! Gadz, having a Menage et Trois with those two would be worse than being jerked off by an Asian guy! Link to comment
Monkey Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Men never, absolutely never, accuse women of rape. I'd be delighted to be raped by some reasonably famous female sportswoman. On the basis that "Rape" involves penetration of the victim by the offender with the offender's penis I reckon it would be quite hard for a guy to accuse a women of raping him. Link to comment
Big Man Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 On the basis that "Rape" involves penetration of the victim by the offender with the offender's penis I reckon it would be quite hard for a guy to accuse a women of raping him. Up until 2009 (thanks monkey) rape was a gender specific crime in scotland like you say. Then Kenny MacAskill brought this ingenious piece of legislation into being (the sexual offences scotland act): If a person ("A"), with A's penis— (a) without another person ("B") consenting, and (b) without any reasonable belief that B consents, penetrates to any extent, either intending to do so or reckless as to whether there is penetration, the vagina, anus or mouth of B then A commits an offence, to be known as the offence of rape. (2) For the purposes of this section, penetration is a continuing act from entry until withdrawal of the penis; but this subsection is subject to subsection 3 (3) In a case where penetration is initially consented to but at some point of time the consent is withdrawn, subsection (2) is to be construed as if the reference in it to a continuing act from entry were a reference to a continuing act from that point of time. (4) In this Act— "penis" includes an artificial penis if it forms part of A, having been created in the course of surgical treatment, and "vagina" includes— (a) the vulva, and (b) an artificial vagina (together with any artificial vulva), if it forms part of B, having been created in the course of such treatment Link to comment
Monkey Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 That's right.....so still gender specific and it was changed in a 2009 Act. now s2 of the act applies to females but that's not "Rape" but rather sexual assault by penetration. Link to comment
Big Man Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 I would disagree that the crime libelled in section 1 was still gender specific. It would be easy to imagine a case where person A was a female who used an artificial penis (say a strap-on) to penetrate the anus of B, a male. If B did not consent, or A was reckless as to whether or not he consented, then i would say that she could be charged under section 1 of the act - it would be a stretch to imagine in practice, but we were always taught to interpret it like that at uni. S1 was drafted specifically like that to remove the gender specific element, and make provisions for transgender individuals. S2 like you say makes provisions for the crime of sexual assault. Link to comment
Monkey Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Problem with that interpretation is 1(4) which defines "penis" as including artificial ones "if it forms part of A, having been created in the course of surgical treatment." This can't include "strap ons" but we digress OT... David Goodwillie eh? West Lothian parties...... lots of drink.. lovely ladies...phnarr phnarr. Not enough evidence... Link to comment
Admin Bebo Posted July 26, 2011 Admin Share Posted July 26, 2011 Men never, absolutely never, accuse women of rape. I'd be delighted to be raped by some reasonably famous female sportswoman. That's not true. It does happen, but most don't report it because society has a double standard. Same goes with domestic violence against men. The majority of it goes unreported. I have a mate that woke up at a party with a fat bird bouncing up and down on him. Arousal does not equal consent. Link to comment
Scarface Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I have a mate that woke up at a party with a fat bird bouncing up and down on him. Arousal does not equal consent. A mate you say? Link to comment
Admin Bebo Posted July 26, 2011 Admin Share Posted July 26, 2011 A mate you say? Unlike you scarface i don't make up stories. Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Unlike you scarface i don't make up stories.PWNED!!!!11111 Link to comment
Dynamo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Unlike you scarface i don't make up stories. Give yourself a +1. Link to comment
HughMungus Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Looks like our fans miss read this rule.We have had quite a large amount of them but we just cannot collectively decide who is most hated.The nominees over the past decade to date are..Darren MackieRichard FosterMark KerrGary McDonaldDarren MackieZander Diamond Chris MaguireSone AlukoDarren MackieJamie LangfiledMark HowardAndrew ConsidineLee MillerDarren MackieDerek YoungMichael PatonChris ClarkScott SeverinDarren MackieRory McArdle Not forgetting Managers & assistantsOr if we go back a few years..(assuming we mean the afc fitba players who didna escape the wrath of the militant boo-boys)ahem.. John McMaster (Gothenburg great)Billy StarkBobby ConnorJoe MillerRobbie WintersDerek WhyteStewart MckimmieDarren Mackie.. Oh how our standards have fallen... back on topic... not so much "innocent untill proven guilty" In this bigotted world that is sScottish fitba... Its "Instantly guilty if accused and worthy of horrendous diatribe" Link to comment
boboisared Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Give yourself a +1. :hysterical: Link to comment
tup Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe he got off with it as it's a police matter and he's just about to join Rangers, hence much shuffling of trouser legs and pouring of whisky amongst the lawyers, police, and court officials. David Badwillie might be a more appropriate name for him now. And Hollywood will have their eyes on him, star potential, Free Goodwillie, box office smash. Link to comment
Big Man Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe he got off with it as it's a police matter and he's just about to join Rangers, hence much shuffling of trouser legs and pouring of whisky amongst the lawyers, police, and court officials. David Badwillie might be a more appropriate name for him now. And Hollywood will have their eyes on him, star potential, Free Goodwillie, box office smash. ''If the glove fits'' tup Link to comment
tutankamun Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Give yourself a +1. f**k me, I'm slow tonight, just got that one! Link to comment
tup Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 f**k me, I'm slow tonight, just got that one! Give yourself a +1 Link to comment
Tommy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Suggestion is that he's signing for Blackpool. Strange if true. Link to comment
tup Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Suggestion is that he's signing for Blackpool. Strange if true. Blackpool seem to love trading in huns, so maybe he's just going there until the huns can get the money together. Link to comment
HughMungus Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe he got off with it as it's a police matter and he's just about to join Rangers, hence much shuffling of trouser legs and pouring of whisky amongst the lawyers, police, and court officials. David Badwillie might be a more appropriate name for him now. And Hollywood will have their eyes on him, star potential, Free Goodwillie, box office smash. That is brilliant tup min! I'm convinced that most of your humour goes Whooshing...and probably best that it does...Don't know if the world is ready for you yet... I love it...excuse the cheeeese and the deference...but if it's a thing to be a thing...you're a thing! Link to comment
tup Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cheers Hugh min, it takes years of ripping the pish from anything and everything to achieve such a repertoire. And on the subject of Hughs, I used to ken a guy at school called just that, first day he said 'My name's Hugh, but they call me Archie for short' Link to comment
Admin Bebo Posted July 26, 2011 Admin Share Posted July 26, 2011 but unlike others, scarface has been known to post stuff that is interesting, with humour, with intelligence. Do you concede this much of our formerly +1 addicted resident? If you mean copy and pasting from other sites without attribution, aye. Sure rocket. Link to comment
HughMungus Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cheers Hugh min, it takes years of ripping the pish from anything and everything to achieve such a repertoire. And on the subject of Hughs, I used to ken a guy at school called just that, first day he said 'My name's Hugh, but they call me Archie for short' Wonderful overtures of black-adder..steaming into my confused singular brain-cell... to be continued.... Link to comment
Big Man Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 This is of material relevance to the debate: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14298717 Link to comment
Broughty Ferry Arab Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Suggestion is that he's signing for Blackpool. Strange if true.United have knocked back a Link to comment
scoutman70 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 United have knocked back a Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 That is brilliant tup min! I'm convinced that most of your humour goes Whooshing...and probably best that it does...Don't know if the world is ready for you yet... I love it...excuse the cheeeese and the deference...but if it's a thing to be a thing...you're a thing! To the more erudite among us, its cliched , narrow, stereotypical chippy pish. Link to comment
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